On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:06:58 -0700 (PDT), Soccer Dad <dhgerstman@gmail.com> wrote:
>I suppose this could be a general post about any HD, but the drive in
>question is a SATA.
>
>We had a SATA installed on a computer that may have been infected with
>a virus, and in order to use it again, we need wipe the drive clean.
>
>Do WD drives come with diagnostic programs that will do a low level
>format? Once the drive is formatted, how can we install an OS?
IN Linux do
dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M of=/dev/sdX
you can use any of the linux live-CD distros. Writing zeroes to the
entire surface clears the HDD and is the modern equivalent to a low
level format.
Soccer Dad <dhgerstman@gmail.com> wrote:
> I suppose this could be a general post about any HD, but the drive in
> question is a SATA.
> We had a SATA installed on a computer that may have been infected with
> a virus, and in order to use it again, we need wipe the drive clean.
> Do WD drives come with diagnostic programs that will do a low level
> format? Once the drive is formatted, how can we install an OS?
You cannot low-level format modern disks. What you do instead
is a complete overwrite with zeros.
Get a Knoppix 5.1.1 CD, boot from it and go to the console (Alt-F1).
Then use 'dd_rescue' to overwrite the drive:
dd_rescue -w /dev/zero /dev/sda
If your drive is not sda, replace by the device name of the
drive. To list all drives and partitions use
fdisk -l
'dd_rescue' is better than 'dd', because it is a forensics and
recovery tool. It guives a nice progess indicator and it
will overwrite (or read) disks with errors.
For the OS installation, you need an installation medium.
For Linux/Windows/FreeBSD/... this is typically a bootable
CD or DVD. Boot from it after having zeroed the disk and
follow the instructions.
Arno
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Soccer Dad wrote:
> I suppose this could be a general post about any HD, but the drive in
> question is a SATA.
>
> We had a SATA installed on a computer that may have been infected with
> a virus, and in order to use it again, we need wipe the drive clean.
>
> Do WD drives come with diagnostic programs that will do a low level
> format? Once the drive is formatted, how can we install an OS?
Soccer Dad:
Try "Copy-Wipe". A good utility to have in any case.
> I suppose this could be a general post about
> any HD, but the drive in question is a SATA.
> We had a SATA installed on a computer that may have been infected
> with a virus, and in order to use it again, we need wipe the drive clean.
> Do WD drives come with diagnostic programs that will do a low level format?
You cant do a low level format on modern drives.
Its trivial to do an OS level format.
> Once the drive is formatted, how can we install an OS?
Depends on the OS. XP and Vista and Windows 7 will all
do a format of the physical drive when you boot from the
distribution CD, in the very first phase of a clean install.
Its similar with Win9x and Linux although a little more manual.
>We had a SATA installed on a computer that may have been infected with
>a virus, and in order to use it again, we need wipe the drive clean.
You want DBAN, Dan's burn & nuke.....
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Soccer Dad wrote...
>
>I suppose this could be a general post about any HD, but the drive in
>question is a SATA.
>
>We had a SATA installed on a computer that may have been infected with
>a virus, and in order to use it again, we need wipe the drive clean.
>
>Do WD drives come with diagnostic programs that will do a low level
>format? Once the drive is formatted, how can we install an OS?
Wiping is easy. But re-install the OS (assume XP) may be difficult,
if you do not have the correct drivers.
Also, XP may not have the correct driver for your SATA HDD.
Here is what I would do.
1. Run Driver Magician to extract the drivers on the existing
OS. Save the drivers to somewhere.
2. If you don't trust the drivers from an infected OS,
fetch copies of drivers from the manufacturer web sites.
3. slipstream XP CD with the SATA HDD driver, using nLite.
Boot test your XP CD as to confirm it can see your SATA HDD.
4. wipe the HDD. Many people have had good suggestions already.
I prefer using Partition Magic, or Acronis Disk Director.
5. Boot up XP slipstream CD that can recognize your SATA HDD.
And install XP to the HDD.
>> I suppose this could be a general post about
>> any HD, but the drive in question is a SATA.
>> We had a SATA installed on a computer that may have been infected
>> with a virus, and in order to use it again, we need wipe the drive clean.
>> Do WD drives come with diagnostic programs that will do a low level
>> format? Once the drive is formatted, how can we install an OS?
> Wiping is easy. But re-install the OS (assume XP)
> may be difficult, if you do not have the correct drivers.
Nope.
> Also, XP may not have the correct driver for your SATA HDD.
Slipstreamed SP2 or SP3 will be fine.
> Here is what I would do.
> 1. Run Driver Magician to extract the drivers on the existing
> OS. Save the drivers to somewhere.
> 2. If you don't trust the drivers from an infected OS,
> fetch copies of drivers from the manufacturer web sites.
> 3. slipstream XP CD with the SATA HDD driver, using nLite.
Makes a lot more sense to slipsteam SP2 or SP3.
> Boot test your XP CD as to confirm it can see your SATA HDD.
He wont be able to install it if it cant, no need to test anything.
> 4. wipe the HDD. Many people have had good suggestions already.
> I prefer using Partition Magic, or Acronis Disk Director.
The XP install CD will format the partition fine.
> 5. Boot up XP slipstream CD that can recognize your SATA HDD.
> And install XP to the HDD.
Harry331 <harryooopotter@hotmail.co_> wrote:
> Soccer Dad wrote...
>>
>>I suppose this could be a general post about any HD, but the drive in
>>question is a SATA.
>>
>>We had a SATA installed on a computer that may have been infected with
>>a virus, and in order to use it again, we need wipe the drive clean.
>>
>>Do WD drives come with diagnostic programs that will do a low level
>>format? Once the drive is formatted, how can we install an OS?
> Wiping is easy. But re-install the OS (assume XP) may be difficult,
> if you do not have the correct drivers.
> Also, XP may not have the correct driver for your SATA HDD.
Actually that would be the driver for the SATA controller, the
HDD does not need a driver. Best either donwload that and burn
it to CD before reinstallig or find the original driver CD.
If your controller runs in ATA/IDE mode (typically a BIOS setting),
you can do without the driver for the initial install and
add it later (for performance reasons).
> Here is what I would do.
> 1. Run Driver Magician to extract the drivers on the existing
> OS. Save the drivers to somewhere.
Hm. Risky with an infected PC.
> 2. If you don't trust the drivers from an infected OS,
> fetch copies of drivers from the manufacturer web sites.
Do that.
> 3. slipstream XP CD with the SATA HDD driver, using nLite.
> Boot test your XP CD as to confirm it can see your SATA HDD.
Alternatively, just burn the driver files (unpacked) to CD and
insert the CD when asked for 3rd party drivers.
> 4. wipe the HDD. Many people have had good suggestions already.
> I prefer using Partition Magic, or Acronis Disk Director.
> 5. Boot up XP slipstream CD that can recognize your SATA HDD.
> And install XP to the HDD.
There is a second driver you will want to have ready, namely
the network card driver. If you have HDD and network, you can
get everything else later from the net. Without one or the other,
you need a separate PC or are stuck.
Of course, with a modern Linux distribution, none of this driver
juggeling is necessary. With Windows 7 it should not be either,
but OS integrated driver support is still significantly behind.
Arno
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Soccer Dad wrote:
> I suppose this could be a general post about any HD, but the drive in
> question is a SATA.
>
> We had a SATA installed on a computer that may have been infected with
> a virus, and in order to use it again, we need wipe the drive clean.
As others have pointed out, if you want to totally remove all traces of
data on the drive, then any number of methods and utilities will be able
to write zeros to your drive to wipe it out. However, for a virus
infection that's not necessary, a simple repartitioning and reformat is
enough. You'd have to boot into your original Windows install CDs and
reinstall the OS, and that should be enough.
Viruses cannot survive past a high-level reformat, let alone a full disk
repartitioning.
> Do WD drives come with diagnostic programs that will do a low level
> format? Once the drive is formatted, how can we install an OS?
You'll need your original Windows XP (or whichever Windows) install CDs
or DVDs.
cleaning a SATA drive 
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