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Old 10-30-2009, 12:27 AM
Harry
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Default Re: cleaning a SATA drive

On Oct 29, 6:00*am, Arno <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

> > 3. slipstream XP CD with the SATA HDD driver, using nLite.
> > * Boot test your XP CD as to confirm it can see your SATA HDD.

>
> Alternatively, just burn the driver files (unpacked) to CD and
> insert the CD when asked for 3rd party drivers.


Correct me if I am wrong.

Isn't that XP Install CD asks only for inserting floppy with drivers?
I meant there is no U.I. for user to invert a driver CD
during XP installation. And for nowsaday's PC's with SATA HDD,
there is little chance you can find one with a floppy drive.
No to metion one with two CD/DVD drives; one for XP install
CD, and the second for driver CD.

That's the point for slipstreaming SATA controller drivers to the
XP install CD's. And yes, as you have corrected me; it is
drivers for SATA controllers, not drivers for SATA HDD.




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Old 10-30-2009, 01:02 AM
Arno
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Harry <harryooopotter@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 29, 6:00?am, Arno <m...@privacy.net> wrote:


>> > 3. slipstream XP CD with the SATA HDD driver, using nLite.
>> > ? Boot test your XP CD as to confirm it can see your SATA HDD.

>>
>> Alternatively, just burn the driver files (unpacked) to CD and
>> insert the CD when asked for 3rd party drivers.


> Correct me if I am wrong.


> Isn't that XP Install CD asks only for inserting floppy with drivers?
> I meant there is no U.I. for user to invert a driver CD
> during XP installation. And for nowsaday's PC's with SATA HDD,
> there is little chance you can find one with a floppy drive.
> No to metion one with two CD/DVD drives; one for XP install
> CD, and the second for driver CD.


Possible. I have not installed XP for ages. I have been able to
get it through several hardware changes now.

Interestingly, there is a really stupid bug in Win 7 at this point: It
does not prompt you to re-instert the Win 7 DVD after driver
installation and gives you a cryptic hex error code instead. Just like
this part of the installer was never really tested. I ran into this
last weekend.

> That's the point for slipstreaming SATA controller drivers to the
> XP install CD's. And yes, as you have corrected me; it is
> drivers for SATA controllers, not drivers for SATA HDD.


Well, I think XP can read drivers from CD by using the
"specify location" functionality, even if it talks about
wanting a floppy disk. But I am by no means sure and I will
not go through the pain of installing it to find out ;-)

If it works, however, you will be able to swotch CDs in
one drive.

Come to think of it, with a modern BIOS, may an USB key in
superfloppy format work?

Arno
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Old 10-30-2009, 02:25 AM
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Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> writes:


>As others have pointed out, if you want to totally remove all traces of
>data on the drive, then any number of methods and utilities will be able
>to write zeros to your drive to wipe it out. However, for a virus
>infection that's not necessary, a simple repartitioning and reformat is
>enough. You'd have to boot into your original Windows install CDs and
>reinstall the OS, and that should be enough.


>Viruses cannot survive past a high-level reformat, let alone a full disk
>repartitioning.


I wish this was still true. There are several virulent boot sector viruses
out there now.
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Old 10-30-2009, 03:20 AM
Grant
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:25:34 +0000 (UTC), David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> wrote:

>Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> writes:
>
>
>>As others have pointed out, if you want to totally remove all traces of
>>data on the drive, then any number of methods and utilities will be able
>>to write zeros to your drive to wipe it out. However, for a virus
>>infection that's not necessary, a simple repartitioning and reformat is
>>enough. You'd have to boot into your original Windows install CDs and
>>reinstall the OS, and that should be enough.

>
>>Viruses cannot survive past a high-level reformat, let alone a full disk
>>repartitioning.

>
>I wish this was still true. There are several virulent boot sector viruses
>out there now.


And the Host Protected Area -- though gigabyte have broken some
installs with their silly new idea of backing up the BIOS in an
HPA.

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Old 10-30-2009, 05:23 AM
Arno
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David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> wrote:
> Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> writes:



>>As others have pointed out, if you want to totally remove all traces of
>>data on the drive, then any number of methods and utilities will be able
>>to write zeros to your drive to wipe it out. However, for a virus
>>infection that's not necessary, a simple repartitioning and reformat is
>>enough. You'd have to boot into your original Windows install CDs and
>>reinstall the OS, and that should be enough.


>>Viruses cannot survive past a high-level reformat, let alone a full disk
>>repartitioning.


> I wish this was still true. There are several virulent boot sector
> viruses out there now.


Some classics do not die, unfortunately.

Arno

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Old 10-30-2009, 07:45 PM
Yousuf Khan
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Default Re: cleaning a SATA drive

David Lesher wrote:
> Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> writes:
>> Viruses cannot survive past a high-level reformat, let alone a full disk
>> repartitioning.

>
> I wish this was still true. There are several virulent boot sector viruses
> out there now.


Fixmbr should take care of that also. When you install Windows and it
asks you if you want to reformat and repartition a drive completely from
scratch, that should also reset the MBR.

Yousuf Khan
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