HTFC Forums

H.T.F.C.

How To Fix Computers





Go Back   HTFC Forums > Hardware Newsgroups > Storage

Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-29-2008, 06:34 PM
Timothy Daniels
 
Posts: n/a
Default boot laptop with eSATA ExpressCard?

Has anyone here booted a laptop using an external HD
connected via an eSATA ExpressCard? The ExpressCard
that I had been planning to use is this one by SIIG:
http://siig.com/ViewProduct.aspx?pn=SC-SAEE22-S1 .
But a call to SIIG indicates that the HD couldn't be used to
boot a laptop, only to hold data. Has anyone here had
better luck with this or any other eSATA ExpressCard?

*TimDaniels*


Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2  
Old 01-29-2008, 07:08 PM
Rod Speed
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: boot laptop with eSATA ExpressCard?

Timothy Daniels <SpamBucket@NoSpamPlease.biz> wrote:

> Has anyone here booted a laptop using an external HD
> connected via an eSATA ExpressCard? The ExpressCard
> that I had been planning to use is this one by SIIG:
> http://siig.com/ViewProduct.aspx?pn=SC-SAEE22-S1 .
> But a call to SIIG indicates that the HD couldn't be used to
> boot a laptop, only to hold data. Has anyone here had
> better luck with this or any other eSATA ExpressCard?


It aint just the card that matters, the laptop needs to be able
to specify that you want to boot off the drive on the card too.
That last isnt that common a capability at all.


Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-30-2008, 12:13 AM
Arno Wagner
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: boot laptop with eSATA ExpressCard?

Previously Timothy Daniels <SpamBucket@nospamplease.biz> wrote:
> Has anyone here booted a laptop using an external HD
> connected via an eSATA ExpressCard? The ExpressCard
> that I had been planning to use is this one by SIIG:
> http://siig.com/ViewProduct.aspx?pn=SC-SAEE22-S1 .
> But a call to SIIG indicates that the HD couldn't be used to
> boot a laptop, only to hold data. Has anyone here had
> better luck with this or any other eSATA ExpressCard?


> *TimDaniels*


In principle these cards could be made bootable like
any other PCI Express HDD controller. I think you
should just look for one that claims to be bootable.

Arno

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-30-2008, 12:37 AM
Timothy Daniels
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: boot laptop with eSATA ExpressCard?

"Arno Wagner" wrote:
> Timothy Daniels wrote:
>> Has anyone here booted a laptop using an external HD
>> connected via an eSATA ExpressCard? The ExpressCard
>> that I had been planning to use is this one by SIIG:
>> http://siig.com/ViewProduct.aspx?pn=SC-SAEE22-S1 .
>> But a call to SIIG indicates that the HD couldn't be used to
>> boot a laptop, only to hold data. Has anyone here had
>> better luck with this or any other eSATA ExpressCard?

>
>> *TimDaniels*

>
> In principle these cards could be made bootable like
> any other PCI Express HDD controller. I think you
> should just look for one that claims to be bootable.
>
> Arno



IOW, the bootability lies with the ExpressCard and
not in the laptop's BIOS?

*TimDaniels*


Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-30-2008, 02:08 AM
Eric Gisin
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: boot laptop with eSATA ExpressCard?

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message news:609bsmF1q24stU1@mid.individual.net...
> Timothy Daniels <SpamBucket@NoSpamPlease.biz> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone here booted a laptop using an external HD
>> connected via an eSATA ExpressCard? The ExpressCard
>> that I had been planning to use is this one by SIIG:
>> http://siig.com/ViewProduct.aspx?pn=SC-SAEE22-S1 .
>> But a call to SIIG indicates that the HD couldn't be used to
>> boot a laptop, only to hold data. Has anyone here had
>> better luck with this or any other eSATA ExpressCard?

>
> It aint just the card that matters, the laptop needs to be able
> to specify that you want to boot off the drive on the card too.
> That last isnt that common a capability at all.
>

There is the Int13 BIOS on the card, and
the boot select options in the system BIOS.
Are you saying the latter is not standard on laptops?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-30-2008, 02:33 AM
Arno Wagner
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: boot laptop with eSATA ExpressCard?

Previously Timothy Daniels <SpamBucket@nospamplease.biz> wrote:
> "Arno Wagner" wrote:
>> Timothy Daniels wrote:
>>> Has anyone here booted a laptop using an external HD
>>> connected via an eSATA ExpressCard? The ExpressCard
>>> that I had been planning to use is this one by SIIG:
>>> http://siig.com/ViewProduct.aspx?pn=SC-SAEE22-S1 .
>>> But a call to SIIG indicates that the HD couldn't be used to
>>> boot a laptop, only to hold data. Has anyone here had
>>> better luck with this or any other eSATA ExpressCard?

>>
>>> *TimDaniels*

>>
>> In principle these cards could be made bootable like
>> any other PCI Express HDD controller. I think you
>> should just look for one that claims to be bootable.
>>
>> Arno



> IOW, the bootability lies with the ExpressCard and
> not in the laptop's BIOS?


The standard method is for the ExpressCard to have its
own BIOS, which ''hooks'' into the system BIOS. An alternate
(cheaper) method is to bring the card up in an IDE compatible
mode that the laptop BIOS handles. This second method often
does not work and does indeed depend on the laptop's BIOS.

Arno


Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-30-2008, 02:33 AM
Rod Speed
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: boot laptop with eSATA ExpressCard?

Eric Gisin <gisin@uniserve.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Timothy Daniels <SpamBucket@NoSpamPlease.biz> wrote


>>> Has anyone here booted a laptop using an external HD
>>> connected via an eSATA ExpressCard? The ExpressCard
>>> that I had been planning to use is this one by SIIG:
>>> http://siig.com/ViewProduct.aspx?pn=SC-SAEE22-S1 .
>>> But a call to SIIG indicates that the HD couldn't be used to
>>> boot a laptop, only to hold data. Has anyone here had
>>> better luck with this or any other eSATA ExpressCard?


>> It aint just the card that matters, the laptop needs to be able
>> to specify that you want to boot off the drive on the card too.
>> That last isnt that common a capability at all.


> There is the Int13 BIOS on the card, and
> the boot select options in the system BIOS.
> Are you saying the latter is not standard on laptops?


Yep, nothing like standard on laptops.


Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-30-2008, 02:35 AM
Rod Speed
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: boot laptop with eSATA ExpressCard?

Timothy Daniels <SpamBucket@NoSpamPlease.biz> wrote
> Arno Wagner wrote
>> Timothy Daniels wrote


>>> Has anyone here booted a laptop using an external HD
>>> connected via an eSATA ExpressCard? The ExpressCard
>>> that I had been planning to use is this one by SIIG:
>>> http://siig.com/ViewProduct.aspx?pn=SC-SAEE22-S1 .
>>> But a call to SIIG indicates that the HD couldn't be used to
>>> boot a laptop, only to hold data. Has anyone here had
>>> better luck with this or any other eSATA ExpressCard?


>> In principle these cards could be made bootable like
>> any other PCI Express HDD controller. I think you
>> should just look for one that claims to be bootable.


> IOW, the bootability lies with the ExpressCard and not in the laptop's BIOS?


Its more complicated than that with a LAPTOP.

He doesnt appear to have noticed that you're talking about a laptop.


Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-30-2008, 04:41 PM
Folkert Rienstra
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: boot laptop with eSATA ExpressCard?

Arno Wagner wrote in news:60a5vmF1pujqfU1@mid.individual.net
> Previously Timothy Daniels <SpamBucket@nospamplease.biz> wrote:
> > "Arno Wagner" wrote:
> > > Timothy Daniels wrote:
> > > > Has anyone here booted a laptop using an external HD
> > > > connected via an eSATA ExpressCard? The ExpressCard
> > > > that I had been planning to use is this one by SIIG:
> > > > http://siig.com/ViewProduct.aspx?pn=SC-SAEE22-S1 .
> > > > But a call to SIIG indicates that the HD couldn't be used to
> > > > boot a laptop, only to hold data. Has anyone here had
> > > > better luck with this or any other eSATA ExpressCard?
> > >
> > > > *TimDaniels*
> > >
> > > In principle these cards could be made bootable like
> > > any other PCI Express HDD controller. I think you
> > > should just look for one that claims to be bootable.
> > >
> > > Arno

>
>
> > IOW, the bootability lies with the ExpressCard and
> > not in the laptop's BIOS?


> The standard method is for the ExpressCard to have its
> own BIOS, which ''hooks'' into the system BIOS. An alternate
> (cheaper) method is to bring the card up in an IDE compatible
> mode that the laptop BIOS handles. This second method often
> does not work and does indeed depend on the laptop's BIOS.


Bwahahah.

>
> Arno

Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-30-2008, 04:42 PM
Folkert Rienstra
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: boot laptop with eSATA ExpressCard?

Rod Speed wrote in news:60a63cF1pljd8U1@mid.individual.net
> Timothy Daniels <SpamBucket@NoSpamPlease.biz> wrote
> > Arno Wagner wrote
> > > Timothy Daniels wrote

>
> > > > Has anyone here booted a laptop using an external HD
> > > > connected via an eSATA ExpressCard? The ExpressCard
> > > > that I had been planning to use is this one by SIIG:
> > > > http://siig.com/ViewProduct.aspx?pn=SC-SAEE22-S1 .
> > > > But a call to SIIG indicates that the HD couldn't be used to
> > > > boot a laptop, only to hold data. Has anyone here had
> > > > better luck with this or any other eSATA ExpressCard?

>
> > > In principle these cards could be made bootable like
> > > any other PCI Express HDD controller. I think you
> > > should just look for one that claims to be bootable.

>
> > IOW, the bootability lies with the ExpressCard and not in the laptop's BIOS?

>
> Its more complicated than that with a LAPTOP.
>
> He doesnt appear to have noticed that you're talking about a laptop.


Which of course can't happen with a babblebot.
So he cooked up a story, as always.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Can't Boot Laptop Neil Laptops 25 11-27-2007 03:45 PM
Boot from eSATA drive Paul Windows Vista 2 11-20-2007 09:32 PM
New eSATA HD. XP performed diagnostics (chkdsk) on initial boot. Is there log file? ggull Windows XP 6 09-17-2007 01:47 PM
ExpressCard with eSATA freeflytim Dell 9 04-05-2007 10:01 AM
ExpressCard with eSATA freeflytim Laptops 9 04-05-2007 10:01 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0
© 2004 - 2007 Web-S-Sense Pty. Ltd. Usenet and forums posts © their respective authors.
Ad Management by RedTyger