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Old 07-08-2008, 10:35 PM
Tony
 
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Default Best Optical Backup Device/Media Today and Tomorrow

I used to wish for fast DVD-RAM but 12x media never became available in the
states even though the drives are ubiquitous. DVD-R/RW with SecurDisc
technology probably gets one pretty close to DVD-RAM reliability (?) and Mt.
Rainier technology seems to have dropped off of the radar. When prices come
down, Blue Ray BD-RE seems like the way to go. Where DVD is appropriate for
small backup sets, Blue Ray, it appears, will bring optical backup to users
with much larger backup sets.

(I have written-off external hard drive backup as too risky: drop that thing
on the floor one time and bye-bye backup data. Online backup to a remote
server sounds good in theory, but unless you own the remote server, it's
still your data in someone else's hands to potentially hack into).

I'm currently backing up to DVD-R/RW but haven't used the SecurDisc
technology yet, but plan to. What are your preferences and wishes for backup
of small datasets such as encountered on standalone workstations and SOHO
environments?

Tony

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Old 07-09-2008, 12:04 AM
Rod Speed
 
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Default Re: Best Optical Backup Device/Media Today and Tomorrow

Tony <MyEmail@my.isp.net> wrote:
> I used to wish for fast DVD-RAM but 12x media never became available
> in the states even though the drives are ubiquitous. DVD-R/RW with
> SecurDisc technology probably gets one pretty close to DVD-RAM
> reliability (?) and Mt. Rainier technology seems to have dropped off
> of the radar. When prices come down, Blue Ray BD-RE seems like the
> way to go. Where DVD is appropriate for small backup sets, Blue Ray,
> it appears, will bring optical backup to users with much larger backup sets.


> (I have written-off external hard drive backup as too risky:


More fool you.

> drop that thing on the floor one time and bye-bye backup data.


Completely trivial to package it so even dropping it wont lose the data.

> Online backup to a remote server sounds good in theory, but unless you own the remote server, it's still your data in
> someone else's hands to potentially hack into).


Completely trivial to encrypt it so that they wont be able to do that.

> I'm currently backing up to DVD-R/RW but haven't used the SecurDisc technology yet, but plan to. What are your
> preferences and wishes for backup of small datasets such as encountered on standalone workstations and SOHO
> environments?


Hard drive for the convenience of backups of the entire image
etc, and offline for the most important irreplaceable data as
well, so that if the place burns down or some ****ed plane
crashes on it etc, its no more than a ****ed nuisance.


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Old 07-09-2008, 12:10 AM
Arno Wagner
 
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Default Re: Best Optical Backup Device/Media Today and Tomorrow

Previously Tony <MyEmail@my.isp.net> wrote:
> I used to wish for fast DVD-RAM but 12x media never became available in the
> states even though the drives are ubiquitous. DVD-R/RW with SecurDisc
> technology probably gets one pretty close to DVD-RAM reliability (?) and Mt.
> Rainier technology seems to have dropped off of the radar. When prices come
> down, Blue Ray BD-RE seems like the way to go. Where DVD is appropriate for
> small backup sets, Blue Ray, it appears, will bring optical backup to users
> with much larger backup sets.


> (I have written-off external hard drive backup as too risky: drop that thing
> on the floor one time and bye-bye backup data. Online backup to a remote
> server sounds good in theory, but unless you own the remote server, it's
> still your data in someone else's hands to potentially hack into).


> I'm currently backing up to DVD-R/RW but haven't used the SecurDisc
> technology yet, but plan to. What are your preferences and wishes for backup
> of small datasets such as encountered on standalone workstations and SOHO
> environments?


I posted some DVD-RAM experiences here recently. Not too good.
It think DVD-<non RAM> is even a lot worse and not backup
material at all.

Arno

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Old 07-09-2008, 12:25 AM
Tony
 
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"Arno Wagner" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:6die00F2k767U1@mid.individual.net...
> Previously Tony <MyEmail@my.isp.net> wrote:
>> I used to wish for fast DVD-RAM but 12x media never became available in
>> the
>> states even though the drives are ubiquitous. DVD-R/RW with SecurDisc
>> technology probably gets one pretty close to DVD-RAM reliability (?) and
>> Mt.
>> Rainier technology seems to have dropped off of the radar. When prices
>> come
>> down, Blue Ray BD-RE seems like the way to go. Where DVD is appropriate
>> for
>> small backup sets, Blue Ray, it appears, will bring optical backup to
>> users
>> with much larger backup sets.

>
>> (I have written-off external hard drive backup as too risky: drop that
>> thing
>> on the floor one time and bye-bye backup data. Online backup to a remote
>> server sounds good in theory, but unless you own the remote server, it's
>> still your data in someone else's hands to potentially hack into).

>
>> I'm currently backing up to DVD-R/RW but haven't used the SecurDisc
>> technology yet, but plan to. What are your preferences and wishes for
>> backup
>> of small datasets such as encountered on standalone workstations and SOHO
>> environments?

>
> I posted some DVD-RAM experiences here recently. Not too good.
> It think DVD-<non RAM> is even a lot worse and not backup
> material at all.


Do you know about SecurDisc technology though? It was designed to address
reliability and security issues with optical media. Check out the LGE
website for more info or maybe even the Nero site. Or here:
http://www.securdisc.net/.

Tony

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Old 07-09-2008, 02:23 AM
Ed Light
 
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>> I posted some DVD-RAM experiences here recently. Not too good.
>> It think DVD-<non RAM> is even a lot worse and not backup
>> material at all.


It's good to do a quality check on each backup you make. DVDInfoPro or
Nero DiscSpeed. My new Pioneer 215D isn't compatible with DiscSpeed so I
had to get DVDInfoPro, which won't check CD's. But the quality of the
DVD-R burns is fantastic on my chosen media.
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Old 07-09-2008, 11:36 AM
Arno Wagner
 
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Default Re: Best Optical Backup Device/Media Today and Tomorrow

Previously Tony <MyEmail@my.isp.net> wrote:

> "Arno Wagner" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:6die00F2k767U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Previously Tony <MyEmail@my.isp.net> wrote:
>>> I used to wish for fast DVD-RAM but 12x media never became available in
>>> the
>>> states even though the drives are ubiquitous. DVD-R/RW with SecurDisc
>>> technology probably gets one pretty close to DVD-RAM reliability (?) and
>>> Mt.
>>> Rainier technology seems to have dropped off of the radar. When prices
>>> come
>>> down, Blue Ray BD-RE seems like the way to go. Where DVD is appropriate
>>> for
>>> small backup sets, Blue Ray, it appears, will bring optical backup to
>>> users
>>> with much larger backup sets.

>>
>>> (I have written-off external hard drive backup as too risky: drop that
>>> thing
>>> on the floor one time and bye-bye backup data. Online backup to a remote
>>> server sounds good in theory, but unless you own the remote server, it's
>>> still your data in someone else's hands to potentially hack into).

>>
>>> I'm currently backing up to DVD-R/RW but haven't used the SecurDisc
>>> technology yet, but plan to. What are your preferences and wishes for
>>> backup
>>> of small datasets such as encountered on standalone workstations and SOHO
>>> environments?

>>
>> I posted some DVD-RAM experiences here recently. Not too good.
>> It think DVD-<non RAM> is even a lot worse and not backup
>> material at all.


> Do you know about SecurDisc technology though? It was designed to address
> reliability and security issues with optical media. Check out the LGE
> website for more info or maybe even the Nero site. Or here:
> http://www.securdisc.net/.


I know about dvdesaster. Older, but essentially does
the same thing (for free). Will not help though, if the disk
does not check in.

Arno

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