Bad Clusters vs. Bad Sectors

Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ant wrote:
>> It sounds SpinRite v6 is still useful. Am I missing something?

> A lot of SpinRite's claims are simply marketing. That's all you're missing.

> Yousuf Khan

Good summary.

Arno

On 10/18/2009 4:04 PM PT, Arno typed:

> Incidentially several other tools will run regular surface
> scans, and they are critical for early problem detection.

Thanks. Does Smartctl's long tests do surface scans?
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On 10/18/2009 11:40 PM PT, Arno typed:

> Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Ant wrote:
>>> It sounds SpinRite v6 is still useful. Am I missing something?
>
>> A lot of SpinRite's claims are simply marketing. That's all you're missing.
>
>> Yousuf Khan
>
> Good summary.

Thanks all. Someone should update Wikipedia's datas too.
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logic--put 10,000 dumb ants together, and they become smart. They will
calculate the shortest routes to food supplies sniffing out pheromone
signals from other ants and Johnson says people do the same thing in
cities using low-level interactions of people on the street." --Alex
Cukan, "Stories of modern science," United Press International, October
8, 2001
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Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
> On 10/18/2009 4:04 PM PT, Arno typed:

>> Incidentially several other tools will run regular surface
>> scans, and they are critical for early problem detection.

> Thanks. Does Smartctl's long tests do surface scans?

Yes. I meant you can shedule them to run automatically at set
intervalls. Smartctl cannot do that, but the smartd in the
same package can and at least n Debian does as default.

Arno

On Oct 19, 9:46*am, Ant <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> Thanks all. Someone should update Wikipedia's datas too.

Ouch! It looks like there is a war going on within that Wiki article's
talk section. Almost as bad as any war that goes on in here. :-)

Yousuf Khan

bbbl67 <yjkhan@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 19, 9:46?am, Ant <a...@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>> Thanks all. Someone should update Wikipedia's datas too.

> Ouch! It looks like there is a war going on within that Wiki article's
> talk section. Almost as bad as any war that goes on in here. :-)

> Yousuf Khan

I am staying out of that. Some people just want to believe
in the snake-oil. Typically not those that actually understand
what a product does.

Arno

On 10/19/2009 9:54 AM PT, Arno typed:

> Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
>> On 10/18/2009 4:04 PM PT, Arno typed:
>
>>> Incidentially several other tools will run regular surface
>>> scans, and they are critical for early problem detection.
>
>> Thanks. Does Smartctl's long tests do surface scans?
>
> Yes. I meant you can shedule them to run automatically at set
> intervalls. Smartctl cannot do that, but the smartd in the
> same package can and at least n Debian does as default.

Interesting. Can I run it as not a daemon and do it all at once when I
am not using the computer? Sort of like running chkdsk /f /r type of thing.
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spin out the thread that sews the leaves together for their fungus
gardens. They exchange information ceaselessly. They do everything but
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Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
> On 10/19/2009 9:54 AM PT, Arno typed:

>> Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
>>> On 10/18/2009 4:04 PM PT, Arno typed:
>>
>>>> Incidentially several other tools will run regular surface
>>>> scans, and they are critical for early problem detection.
>>
>>> Thanks. Does Smartctl's long tests do surface scans?
>>
>> Yes. I meant you can shedule them to run automatically at set
>> intervalls. Smartctl cannot do that, but the smartd in the
>> same package can and at least n Debian does as default.

> Interesting. Can I run it as not a daemon and do it all at once when I
> am not using the computer? Sort of like running chkdsk /f /r type of thing.

If you want to run the surface scan manually, just use
smartctl -t long <device>

Arno

On 10/20/2009 12:21 PM PT, Arno typed:

>>>>> Incidentially several other tools will run regular surface
>>>>> scans, and they are critical for early problem detection.

>>>> Thanks. Does Smartctl's long tests do surface scans?

>>> Yes. I meant you can shedule them to run automatically at set
>>> intervalls. Smartctl cannot do that, but the smartd in the
>>> same package can and at least n Debian does as default.

>> Interesting. Can I run it as not a daemon and do it all at once when I
>> am not using the computer? Sort of like running chkdsk /f /r type of thing.

> If you want to run the surface scan manually, just use
> smartctl -t long <device>

Um, I did mention that earlier "Does Smartctl's long tests do surface
scans?". Thanks though.
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