Alternative to CD/DVD for backup?

Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote in
news:693cv9F2v5ckhU1@mid.individual.net:

> You can read/write just like HDD, but XP does not have the
> (generic) driver needed for the UDF filesystem that is higly
> recommended for DVD-RAM. Under Linux you need no driver.
> I have no idea about Vista. I curently use InCD from Nero 7.0
> Essentials under XP. You can format DVD-RAM as FAT or NTFS,
> but may get problems. Also the Maxell disks come unformatted,
> so you need formatter softeware for UDF also contained in Nero 7.0
> essentials). I have no experience with other supporting software
> at the moment and I will stay away from Vista as long as possible.
>
> Arno
>
>
Thanks for the info. I won't buy any until I make sure I have the needed
software and drivers. I don't use Nero anymore and use a free prog called
DeepBurner, don't know if that has DVD-RAM support or not. I haven't really
liked Nero since ver 5.x but I do have acces to 7.x if necessary.

"Gumby" <gumby@is.cool> wrote in message news:bY3Xj.269426$pM4.84506@pd7urf1no...
> Arno ****UP<me@privacy.net> wrote in
> news:693cv9F2v5ckhU1@mid.individual.net:
>
>> You can read/write just like HDD, but XP does not have the
>> (generic) driver needed for the UDF filesystem that is higly
>> recommended for DVD-RAM. Under Linux you need no driver.
>> I have no idea about Vista. I curently use InCD from Nero 7.0
>> Essentials under XP. You can format DVD-RAM as FAT or NTFS,
>> but may get problems. Also the Maxell disks come unformatted,
>> so you need formatter softeware for UDF also contained in Nero 7.0
>> essentials). I have no experience with other supporting software
>> at the moment and I will stay away from Vista as long as possible.
>>
DVD-RAM is fully supported under XP.
There are no problems formatting discs with FAT.
No one in their right mind uses Nero.

> Thanks for the info. I won't buy any until I make sure I have the needed
> software and drivers. I don't use Nero anymore and use a free prog called
> DeepBurner, don't know if that has DVD-RAM support or not. I haven't really
> liked Nero since ver 5.x but I do have acces to 7.x if necessary.

You are advised to ignore Arnie, he doesn't have a ****ing clue.

Previously Gumby <gumby@is.cool> wrote:
> Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote in
> news:693cv9F2v5ckhU1@mid.individual.net:

>> You can read/write just like HDD, but XP does not have the
>> (generic) driver needed for the UDF filesystem that is higly
>> recommended for DVD-RAM. Under Linux you need no driver.
>> I have no idea about Vista. I curently use InCD from Nero 7.0
>> Essentials under XP. You can format DVD-RAM as FAT or NTFS,
>> but may get problems. Also the Maxell disks come unformatted,
>> so you need formatter softeware for UDF also contained in Nero 7.0
>> essentials). I have no experience with other supporting software
>> at the moment and I will stay away from Vista as long as possible.
>>
>> Arno
>>
>>
> Thanks for the info. I won't buy any until I make sure I have the needed
> software and drivers. I don't use Nero anymore and use a free prog called
> DeepBurner, don't know if that has DVD-RAM support or not. I haven't really
> liked Nero since ver 5.x but I do have acces to 7.x if necessary.

I use it for three things only: InCD as UDF driver, the formatting
software to create UDF-Filesystems on DVD-RAM and the disk analyser
program (also freely available) DiscSpeed for quality assessment.
I have to say that I do not like the other components very much.
I did burn onw DVD-RW because I neded to install CentOS, but
I do not see me burning any other non-RAM DVDs in the forseeable
future.

Arno

Arno Wagner wrote:

<edited for brevity>

> Since my MOD is in the process of dying (has trouble writing, still
> reads everything perfectly) and replacement drives are hard to get,
> I currently have to find some very high reliability long-term
> archiving solution. Preferred would be redundant backup to DVD-RAM
> (multiple media), fallback a large folder I copy over from HDD to
> hadd and keep on several ones (different servers) at any time.
>
> Arno


Hello, Arno:

Glad to see that you've finally come around to my way of thinking,
regarding DVD-RAM. :-J


Cordially,
John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>

Previously John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> wrote:
> Arno Wagner wrote:

> <edited for brevity>

>> Since my MOD is in the process of dying (has trouble writing, still
>> reads everything perfectly) and replacement drives are hard to get,
>> I currently have to find some very high reliability long-term
>> archiving solution. Preferred would be redundant backup to DVD-RAM
>> (multiple media), fallback a large folder I copy over from HDD to
>> hadd and keep on several ones (different servers) at any time.
>>
>> Arno


> Hello, Arno:

> Glad to see that you've finally come around to my way of thinking,
> regarding DVD-RAM. :-J

Well, seems to be the only affordable long-term storage
media that is still maintained...

Will post disk evaluation resuts here shortly, I am just scanning
some additional maxell DVD-RAM disks.

Arno