2.5" drive not seen when connected to IDE plug?

Hello

I bought an old, second-hand, 2.5" Fujistu MHN2200AT drive and
the following data + power adaptor so I can use it in a regular PC
with an IDE plug and Molex power plug:

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5...decabledq0.jpg

However, the drive is not seen by the two PC's in which I connected
the drive. The drive does spin, so it's powered, and I have no reason
to suspect that I was sold a bad drive.

I checked the online manual, and it's correctly plugged in (red layer
on Pin1, and no jumper since this is the only device on the IDE bus:

http://193.128.183.41/home/v3__produ...2&inf=cfg&wg=0
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7...ecable2lv6.jpg

Should I try those other adapters?
http://tinyurl.com/3xmejp
http://www.addonics.com/products/io/aa25ide35.asp

Has someone seen this? Any idea what I could try?

Thanks for any tip.

Gilles Ganault <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> Hello
>
> I bought an old, second-hand, 2.5" Fujistu MHN2200AT drive and
> the following data + power adaptor so I can use it in a regular PC
> with an IDE plug and Molex power plug:
>
> http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5...decabledq0.jpg
>
> However, the drive is not seen by the two PC's in which I connected
> the drive. The drive does spin, so it's powered, and I have no reason
> to suspect that I was sold a bad drive.
>
> I checked the online manual, and it's correctly plugged in (red layer
> on Pin1, and no jumper since this is the only device on the IDE bus:
>
> http://193.128.183.41/home/v3__produ...2&inf=cfg&wg=0
> http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7...ecable2lv6.jpg
>
> Should I try those other adapters?
> http://tinyurl.com/3xmejp
> http://www.addonics.com/products/io/aa25ide35.asp
>
> Has someone seen this? Any idea what I could try?

The first thing to check is that it is a viable 2.5" drive.

One way to do that is to see if it will work in one of the
external cases that are designed to take 2.5" drives.

You should also check how the drive is jumpered, tho presumably
its not jumpered since you didnt mention the jumpering.

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 06:17:27 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>The first thing to check is that it is a viable 2.5" drive.One way
> to do that is to see if it will work in one of the
>external cases that are designed to take 2.5" drives.

I don't have this kind of external case, so no way to check that the
drive is OK :-/

>You should also check how the drive is jumpered, tho presumably
>its not jumpered since you didnt mention the jumpering.

According to the documentation above, no jumper = master.

I guess I'll just order a different IDE connector, and see how it
goes.

Thanks.

On Jan 20, 11:09*am, Gilles Ganault <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 06:17:27 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>
> <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >The first thing to check is that it is a viable 2.5" drive.One way
> > to do that is to see if it will work in one of the
> >external cases that are designed to take 2.5" drives.
>
> I don't have this kind of external case, so no way to check that the
> drive is OK :-/
>
> >You should also check how the drive is jumpered, tho presumably
> >its not jumpered since you didnt mention the jumpering.
>
> According to the documentation above, no jumper = master.
>
> I guess I'll just order a different IDE connector, and see how it
> goes.
>
> Thanks.

Do you have another 2.5" drive, you know works, to test your cable,
connector etc.

Drives can spin, and still be dead!

The Windows Computer Management program is also very useful to see if
the drive exists as a physical device.

Michael

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 03:18:12 -0800 (PST), "mscotgrove@aol.com"
<mscotgrove@aol.com> wrote:
>Do you have another 2.5" drive, you know works, to test your cable,
>connector etc.

Unfortunately, no.

>Drives can spin, and still be dead!

I suspect it's the adapter that just doesn't work with this drive.
I've ordered a different kind.

>The Windows Computer Management program is also very useful to see if
>the drive exists as a physical device.

When booting with a FreeBSD CD, it can't even see the drive, which
makes sense since the BIOS itself can't see it.

On a third PC, the BIOS reports 8GB instead of 20GB, and FreeBSD fails
writing to it anyway :-/

mscotgrove@aol.com wrote in
news:1cd77031-a538-4b0b-866b-80dba5e555e1@v46g2000hsv.googlegroups.com
> On Jan 20, 11:09 am, Gilles Ganault <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 06:17:27 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> >
> > <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > The first thing to check is that it is a viable 2.5" drive.One way
> > > to do that is to see if it will work in one of the
> > > external cases that are designed to take 2.5" drives.
> >
> > I don't have this kind of external case, so no way to check that the
> > drive is OK :-/
> >
> > > You should also check how the drive is jumpered, tho presumably
> > > its not jumpered since you didnt mention the jumpering.
> >
> > According to the documentation above, no jumper = master.
> >
> > I guess I'll just order a different IDE connector, and see how it
> > goes.
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> Do you have another 2.5" drive, you know works, to test your cable,
> connector etc.
>
> Drives can spin, and still be dead!

> The Windows Computer Management program is also very useful to see if
> the drive exists as a physical device.

Right, who cares whether the bios can't see it.

>
> Michael

Gilles Ganault wrote in news:i9e7p35ktvnkgcgcpfnrfl24l8lalrqm1e@4ax.com
> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 03:18:12 -0800 (PST), mscotgrove@aol.com <mscotgrove@aol.com> wrote:
> > Do you have another 2.5" drive, you know works, to test your cable,
> > connector etc.
>
> Unfortunately, no.
>
> > Drives can spin, and still be dead!
>
> I suspect it's the adapter that just doesn't work with this drive.
> I've ordered a different kind.
>
> > The Windows Computer Management program is also very useful to see if
> > the drive exists as a physical device.
>
> When booting with a FreeBSD CD, it can't even see the drive, which
> makes sense since the BIOS itself can't see it.

> On a third PC, the BIOS reports 8GB instead of 20GB, and FreeBSD fails
> writing to it anyway :-/

Right, so obviously the drive is toast.

Gilles Ganault wrote in news:n8b4p3t5jmj21ki080e3g7o4ol682jjgo8@4ax.com
> Hello
>
> I bought an old, second-hand, 2.5" Fujistu MHN2200AT drive and
> the following data + power adaptor so I can use it in a regular PC
> with an IDE plug and Molex power plug:
>
> http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5...decabledq0.jpg

> However, the drive is not seen by the two PC's in which I connected
> the drive.

> The drive does spin, so it's powered, and I have no reason to suspect
> that I was sold a bad drive.

Perhaps the seller thought the same thing.
It's not uncommon for drives to die between shutoff and switch on.

>
> I checked the online manual, and it's correctly plugged in (red layer
> on Pin1, and no jumper since this is the only device on the IDE bus:
>
> http://193.128.183.41/home/v3__produ...2&inf=cfg&wg=0
> http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7...ecable2lv6.jpg
>
> Should I try those other adapters?
> http://tinyurl.com/3xmejp
> http://www.addonics.com/products/io/aa25ide35.asp
>
> Has someone seen this? Any idea what I could try?
>
> Thanks for any tip.

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:27:37 +0100, "Folkert Rienstra"
<see_reply-to@myweb.nl> wrote:
>Perhaps the seller thought the same thing.
>It's not uncommon for drives to die between shutoff and switch on.

Mmm... OK, I'll get a new one and give it another try. There such
isn't enough room to cram a 3.5" in there.

Thanks.