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Old 12-16-2007, 04:08 PM
Bubba
 
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Default Unindentified SCSI drive in HP Netserver E60

Greetings to all,

I recently acquired a HP Netserver E60 that came with unlabeled SCSI
drive. All that I knew about it was its capacity - 18GB. This is what I
get when I attempt to probe the drive:

smartctl -a /dev/sda

smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

Device: HP 18.2GB A 68-SA40 Version: SA40
Serial number: AK0QW095
Device type: disk
Local Time is: Sun Dec 16 18:02:16 2007 CET
Device supports SMART and is Enabled
Temperature Warning Disabled or Not Supported
SMART Health Status: OK

Google isn't helpful with this range of info. I get that device name in
all sorts of information tools, starting from Aida to Adaptec SCSI BIOS.

The only thing I really want to know is whether this drive is HP part
D7176A (18GB 7.2k RPM drive) or something else.

TIA!

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Old 12-17-2007, 11:39 AM
Robert Heller
 
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Default Re: Unindentified SCSI drive in HP Netserver E60

At 16 Dec 2007 16:08:25 GMT Bubba <nickname@hcp.hr> wrote:

>
> Greetings to all,
>
> I recently acquired a HP Netserver E60 that came with unlabeled SCSI
> drive. All that I knew about it was its capacity - 18GB. This is what I
> get when I attempt to probe the drive:
>
> smartctl -a /dev/sda
>
> smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
> Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
>
> Device: HP 18.2GB A 68-SA40 Version: SA40
> Serial number: AK0QW095
> Device type: disk
> Local Time is: Sun Dec 16 18:02:16 2007 CET
> Device supports SMART and is Enabled
> Temperature Warning Disabled or Not Supported
> SMART Health Status: OK
>
> Google isn't helpful with this range of info. I get that device name in
> all sorts of information tools, starting from Aida to Adaptec SCSI BIOS.
>
> The only thing I really want to know is whether this drive is HP part
> D7176A (18GB 7.2k RPM drive) or something else.


DEC/Compac/HP get OEM drives with 'custom' firmware for their servers.
Have you pulled the drive out and looked *closely* at the label (does
the *bare* drive really have no label?). Sometimes there is a
trademark somewhere on the label, which would give a clue as to the
OEM.

>
> TIA!
>


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Old 12-17-2007, 04:58 PM
Cydrome Leader
 
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Default Re: Unindentified SCSI drive in HP Netserver E60

Bubba <nickname@hcp.hr> wrote:
> Greetings to all,
>
> I recently acquired a HP Netserver E60 that came with unlabeled SCSI
> drive. All that I knew about it was its capacity - 18GB. This is what I
> get when I attempt to probe the drive:
>
> smartctl -a /dev/sda
>
> smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
> Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
>
> Device: HP 18.2GB A 68-SA40 Version: SA40
> Serial number: AK0QW095


That's a very Seagate looking serial number, but unless you examine the
drive itself, it's just a guess.
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Old 12-17-2007, 07:22 PM
Bubba
 
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Default Re: Unindentified SCSI drive in HP Netserver E60

Robert Heller's log on stardate 17 pro 2007

> DEC/Compac/HP get OEM drives with 'custom' firmware for their
> servers.


I know. Still, I hoped that at least some tool can extract the exact
model...

> Have you pulled the drive out and looked *closely* at the label (does
> the *bare* drive really have no label?). Sometimes there is a
> trademark somewhere on the label, which would give a clue as to the
> OEM.


Some wiseass tore the label down; you can still see remains of the glue.
Luckily, I managed to find identical server to mine with the same hard
drive, and it seems to be IBM Ultrastar 18ES.

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Old 12-19-2007, 02:53 AM
Bud
 
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Default Re: Unindentified SCSI drive in HP Netserver E60

Cydrome Leader wrote

> Bubba <nickname@hcp.hr> wrote:
> > Greetings to all,
> >
> > I recently acquired a HP Netserver E60 that came with unlabeled SCSI
> > drive. All that I knew about it was its capacity - 18GB. This is what I
> > get when I attempt to probe the drive:
> >
> > smartctl -a /dev/sda
> >
> > smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
> > Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
> >
> > Device: HP 18.2GB A 68-SA40 Version: SA40
> > Serial number: AK0QW095


> That's a very Seagate looking serial number,


Ooh, manufacturer dedicated serial numbers. What's next.

> but unless you examine the drive itself, it's just a guess.


Wotanidiot.
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Old 12-19-2007, 03:55 PM
Bubba
 
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Default Re: Unindentified SCSI drive in HP Netserver E60

Bud's log on stardate 19 pro 2007

>> That's a very Seagate looking serial number,

>
> Ooh, manufacturer dedicated serial numbers. What's next.
>
>> but unless you examine the drive itself, it's just a guess.

>
> Wotanidiot.


I wouldn't like to interfere if this is something personal, but I reckon
Cydrome Leader only wanted to help. Though I must admit that the judgment
of vendor based on SN was a bit implausible, but as I have said, man at
least gave the effort to reply.

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Old 12-19-2007, 04:58 PM
msg
 
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Default Re: Unindentified SCSI drive in HP Netserver E60

Bubba wrote:

> Bud's log on stardate 19 pro 2007
>
>
>>>That's a very Seagate looking serial number,

>>
>>Ooh, manufacturer dedicated serial numbers. What's next.
>>
>>
>>>but unless you examine the drive itself, it's just a guess.

>>
>>Wotanidiot.

>
>
> I wouldn't like to interfere if this is something personal, but I reckon
> Cydrome Leader only wanted to help. Though I must admit that the judgment
> of vendor based on SN was a bit implausible, but as I have said, man at
> least gave the effort to reply.
>


Not at all implausible; anyone who worked with Minnesota-made computer
technology knows very well how to identify the manufacturer (Control
Data, MPI, Comten, IBM Rochester, etc.) by the serial number. At hamfests
it is commonplace for someone to declare the name of the manufacturer on
some obscure chunk of something by the part number and/or serial number
stamped thereon. For CDC hard drives (now Seagate) this applies as
well (don't know about other Seagate drives however...).

Michael
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Old 12-20-2007, 03:23 AM
Cydrome Leader
 
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Default Re: Unindentified SCSI drive in HP Netserver E60

Bud <Fr8dnot@rubberbud.au> wrote:
> Cydrome Leader wrote
>
>> Bubba <nickname@hcp.hr> wrote:
>> > Greetings to all,
>> >
>> > I recently acquired a HP Netserver E60 that came with unlabeled SCSI
>> > drive. All that I knew about it was its capacity - 18GB. This is what I
>> > get when I attempt to probe the drive:
>> >
>> > smartctl -a /dev/sda
>> >
>> > smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
>> > Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
>> >
>> > Device: HP 18.2GB A 68-SA40 Version: SA40
>> > Serial number: AK0QW095

>
>> That's a very Seagate looking serial number,

>
> Ooh, manufacturer dedicated serial numbers. What's next.


You're right, all disk makers use the exact same serials, and the exact
same format.

Nobody can tell a dell laptop serial from that of an ibm thinkpad, it's
just not possible.

All serial numbers are the same.
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Old 12-23-2007, 11:41 PM
Folkert Rienstra
 
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Default Re: Unindentified SCSI drive in HP Netserver E60

Cydrome Leader wrote in news:fkcn7l$nbt$3@reader1.panix.com
> Bud <Fr8dnot@rubberbud.au> wrote:
> > Cydrome Leader wrote
> >
> > > Bubba <nickname@hcp.hr> wrote:
> > > > Greetings to all,
> > > >
> > > > I recently acquired a HP Netserver E60 that came with unlabeled SCSI
> > > > drive. All that I knew about it was its capacity - 18GB. This is what I
> > > > get when I attempt to probe the drive:
> > > >
> > > > smartctl -a /dev/sda
> > > >
> > > > smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce
> > > > Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
> > > >
> > > > Device: HP 18.2GB A 68-SA40 Version: SA40
> > > > Serial number: AK0QW095

> >
> > > That's a very Seagate looking serial number,

> >
> > Ooh, manufacturer dedicated serial numbers. What's next.

>
> You're right, all disk makers use the exact same serials, and the exact
> same format.


> Nobody can tell a dell laptop serial from that of an ibm thinkpad, it's
> just not possible.
>
> All serial numbers are the same.


Right, that obviously explains how you called an IBM drive to
be a Seagate. You are soo clever, to the extend of being scary.
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Old 12-23-2007, 11:52 PM
Folkert Rienstra
 
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Default Re: Unindentified SCSI drive in HP Netserver E60

msg wrote in news:13mij6am3s1hi20@corp.supernews.com
> Bubba wrote:
> > Bud's log on stardate 19 pro 2007
> >
> > > > That's a very Seagate looking serial number,
> > >
> > > Ooh, manufacturer dedicated serial numbers. What's next.
> > >
> > > > but unless you examine the drive itself, it's just a guess.
> > >
> > > Wotanidiot.


> > I wouldn't like to interfere if this is something personal,


Oh come on, you love controversy.
That's why you explicitly left out the important bit about the missing label.

> > but I reckon Cydrome Leader only wanted to help.


Newsgroups are full of idiots who want to 'help' (help themselves to attention).
even if they haven't got a clue. They just don't know how to shut themselves up.

> > Though I must admit that the judgment of vendor based on SN was a bit


> > implausible,


Probably because it is?
There must be a reason why they started to have letters in them and it
was to expand the (selfimposed?) limit of 8 numbers (ascii characters),
obviously not to then limit them again by manufacturer exclusive ranges.

"April 1999 Seagate ships its 250 millionth disc drive"

> > but as I have said, man at least gave the effort to reply.


And plant silly thoughts in peoples heads that other silly people then
will propagate. Oh uh, would that be you?

> >

>
> Not at all implausible; anyone who worked with Minnesota-made computer
> technology knows very well how to identify the manufacturer (Control
> Data, MPI, Comten, IBM Rochester, etc.) by the serial number.


Pity that was far back in another century when numbers made were
relatively small.

> At hamfests it is commonplace for someone to declare the name of the
> manufacturer on some obscure chunk of something by the part number


Part numbers, sure.

> and/or serial number stamped thereon.


Yeah, and Jezus walked on water too.

> For CDC hard drives


> (now Seagate)


Now extinct.

> this applies as well


> (don't know about other Seagate drives however...).


There are no 'other' Seagate drives. There's just Seagate drives.

>
> Michael


Btw, call the makers of these drive serials here

00077396
68193442
LJA50448
E3L11KSB
F807EAE875
L3251414
E6L10NXB
W806C60B75
680F5625
AK0QW095
LS885612
F802E6397A
6819F9F3
00274096
7031103509
68500447
W37153297A

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