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Old 10-18-2007, 04:35 AM
galapogos
 
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Default SCSI CDB response data structure

Hi,
I'm working with a USB mass storage device that accepts SCSI commands,
and I'm trying to understand what this device supports. Are there any
software tools that query a device with a user supplied SCSI command
(eg INQUIRY) and is able to display the response data structure? I'm
not even sure if the device supports SCSI-1 or SCSI-2 or what.

Thanks.

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Old 10-18-2007, 06:30 AM
msg
 
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Default Re: SCSI CDB response data structure

galapogos wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm working with a USB mass storage device that accepts SCSI commands,
> and I'm trying to understand what this device supports. Are there any
> software tools that query a device with a user supplied SCSI command
> (eg INQUIRY) and is able to display the response data structure? I'm
> not even sure if the device supports SCSI-1 or SCSI-2 or what.
>
> Thanks.
>


What host platform and what o/s do you intend to use? Being USB
is a complication. I have some favorite DOS and Unix tools that
I use to generate custom commands and observe responses but
these work only with HBAs for which there are drivers or
direct hardware support.

Regards,

Michael
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Old 10-18-2007, 07:38 AM
galapogos
 
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Default Re: SCSI CDB response data structure

On Oct 18, 1:30 pm, msg <msg@_cybertheque.org_> wrote:
> galapogos wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I'm working with a USB mass storage device that accepts SCSI commands,
> > and I'm trying to understand what this device supports. Are there any
> > software tools that query a device with a user supplied SCSI command
> > (eg INQUIRY) and is able to display the response data structure? I'm
> > not even sure if the device supports SCSI-1 or SCSI-2 or what.

>
> > Thanks.

>
> What host platform and what o/s do you intend to use? Being USB
> is a complication. I have some favorite DOS and Unix tools that
> I use to generate custom commands and observe responses but
> these work only with HBAs for which there are drivers or
> direct hardware support.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael


Hi,
I'm working on Windows XP. Actually after some googling I've managed
to find a tool called sg3_utils that supports quite a few OSes. I've
tried it on a generic flash drive and it seems to work. However, if
you have other suggestions I would like to hear about them too. Thanks!

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Old 10-18-2007, 12:08 PM
moojit
 
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Default Re: SCSI CDB response data structure


"galapogos" <goister@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192689489.257212.310490@v29g2000prd.googlegr oups.com...
> On Oct 18, 1:30 pm, msg <msg@_cybertheque.org_> wrote:
>> galapogos wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > I'm working with a USB mass storage device that accepts SCSI commands,
>> > and I'm trying to understand what this device supports. Are there any
>> > software tools that query a device with a user supplied SCSI command
>> > (eg INQUIRY) and is able to display the response data structure? I'm
>> > not even sure if the device supports SCSI-1 or SCSI-2 or what.

>>
>> > Thanks.

>>
>> What host platform and what o/s do you intend to use? Being USB
>> is a complication. I have some favorite DOS and Unix tools that
>> I use to generate custom commands and observe responses but
>> these work only with HBAs for which there are drivers or
>> direct hardware support.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Michael

>
> Hi,
> I'm working on Windows XP. Actually after some googling I've managed
> to find a tool called sg3_utils that supports quite a few OSes. I've
> tried it on a generic flash drive and it seems to work. However, if
> you have other suggestions I would like to hear about them too. Thanks!
>


SCSI Utility for Windows

Moojit


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  #5  
Old 10-19-2007, 12:41 PM
galapogos
 
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Default Re: SCSI CDB response data structure

On Oct 18, 7:08 pm, "moojit" <moo...@moojit.net> wrote:
> "galapogos" <gois...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1192689489.257212.310490@v29g2000prd.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Oct 18, 1:30 pm, msg <msg@_cybertheque.org_> wrote:
> >> galapogos wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> > I'm working with a USB mass storage device that accepts SCSI commands,
> >> > and I'm trying to understand what this device supports. Are there any
> >> > software tools that query a device with a user supplied SCSI command
> >> > (eg INQUIRY) and is able to display the response data structure? I'm
> >> > not even sure if the device supports SCSI-1 or SCSI-2 or what.

>
> >> > Thanks.

>
> >> What host platform and what o/s do you intend to use? Being USB
> >> is a complication. I have some favorite DOS and Unix tools that
> >> I use to generate custom commands and observe responses but
> >> these work only with HBAs for which there are drivers or
> >> direct hardware support.

>
> >> Regards,

>
> >> Michael

>
> > Hi,
> > I'm working on Windows XP. Actually after some googling I've managed
> > to find a tool called sg3_utils that supports quite a few OSes. I've
> > tried it on a generic flash drive and it seems to work. However, if
> > you have other suggestions I would like to hear about them too. Thanks!

>
> SCSI Utility for Windows
>
> Moojit


Thanks! That's a great tool, but it doesn't seem to recognize my USB
mass storage devices, only my fixed HDDs, optical drives and virtual
drives.

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  #6  
Old 10-20-2007, 03:16 PM
moojit
 
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Default Re: SCSI CDB response data structure


"galapogos" <goister@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192794103.892959.205680@v29g2000prd.googlegr oups.com...
> On Oct 18, 7:08 pm, "moojit" <moo...@moojit.net> wrote:
>> "galapogos" <gois...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1192689489.257212.310490@v29g2000prd.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 18, 1:30 pm, msg <msg@_cybertheque.org_> wrote:
>> >> galapogos wrote:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> > I'm working with a USB mass storage device that accepts SCSI
>> >> > commands,
>> >> > and I'm trying to understand what this device supports. Are there
>> >> > any
>> >> > software tools that query a device with a user supplied SCSI command
>> >> > (eg INQUIRY) and is able to display the response data structure? I'm
>> >> > not even sure if the device supports SCSI-1 or SCSI-2 or what.

>>
>> >> > Thanks.

>>
>> >> What host platform and what o/s do you intend to use? Being USB
>> >> is a complication. I have some favorite DOS and Unix tools that
>> >> I use to generate custom commands and observe responses but
>> >> these work only with HBAs for which there are drivers or
>> >> direct hardware support.

>>
>> >> Regards,

>>
>> >> Michael

>>
>> > Hi,
>> > I'm working on Windows XP. Actually after some googling I've managed
>> > to find a tool called sg3_utils that supports quite a few OSes. I've
>> > tried it on a generic flash drive and it seems to work. However, if
>> > you have other suggestions I would like to hear about them too. Thanks!

>>
>> SCSI Utility for Windows
>>
>> Moojit

>
> Thanks! That's a great tool, but it doesn't seem to recognize my USB
> mass storage devices, only my fixed HDDs, optical drives and virtual
> drives.
>


If it doesn't recognize your USB device, it's not advertising itself as a
SCSI device. Therefore, it does not support SCSI.

Moojit


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  #7  
Old 10-20-2007, 07:01 PM
galapogos
 
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Default Re: SCSI CDB response data structure

On Oct 20, 10:16 pm, "moojit" <moo...@moojit.net> wrote:
> "galapogos" <gois...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1192794103.892959.205680@v29g2000prd.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Oct 18, 7:08 pm, "moojit" <moo...@moojit.net> wrote:
> >> "galapogos" <gois...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news:1192689489.257212.310490@v29g2000prd.google groups.com...

>
> >> > On Oct 18, 1:30 pm, msg <msg@_cybertheque.org_> wrote:
> >> >> galapogos wrote:
> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> > I'm working with a USB mass storage device that accepts SCSI
> >> >> > commands,
> >> >> > and I'm trying to understand what this device supports. Are there
> >> >> > any
> >> >> > software tools that query a device with a user supplied SCSI command
> >> >> > (eg INQUIRY) and is able to display the response data structure? I'm
> >> >> > not even sure if the device supports SCSI-1 or SCSI-2 or what.

>
> >> >> > Thanks.

>
> >> >> What host platform and what o/s do you intend to use? Being USB
> >> >> is a complication. I have some favorite DOS and Unix tools that
> >> >> I use to generate custom commands and observe responses but
> >> >> these work only with HBAs for which there are drivers or
> >> >> direct hardware support.

>
> >> >> Regards,

>
> >> >> Michael

>
> >> > Hi,
> >> > I'm working on Windows XP. Actually after some googling I've managed
> >> > to find a tool called sg3_utils that supports quite a few OSes. I've
> >> > tried it on a generic flash drive and it seems to work. However, if
> >> > you have other suggestions I would like to hear about them too. Thanks!

>
> >> SCSI Utility for Windows

>
> >> Moojit

>
> > Thanks! That's a great tool, but it doesn't seem to recognize my USB
> > mass storage devices, only my fixed HDDs, optical drives and virtual
> > drives.

>
> If it doesn't recognize your USB device, it's not advertising itself as a
> SCSI device. Therefore, it does not support SCSI.
>
> Moojit


That's weird though, because with the sg3_utils toolset I'm able to
send various SCSI commands to the USB device. USB mass storage devices
actually use the SCSI command set.

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Old 10-21-2007, 03:54 PM
moojit
 
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Default Re: SCSI CDB response data structure


"galapogos" <goister@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192903274.206592.177980@q5g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
> On Oct 20, 10:16 pm, "moojit" <moo...@moojit.net> wrote:
>> "galapogos" <gois...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1192794103.892959.205680@v29g2000prd.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 18, 7:08 pm, "moojit" <moo...@moojit.net> wrote:
>> >> "galapogos" <gois...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>>
>> >>news:1192689489.257212.310490@v29g2000prd.google groups.com...

>>
>> >> > On Oct 18, 1:30 pm, msg <msg@_cybertheque.org_> wrote:
>> >> >> galapogos wrote:
>> >> >> > Hi,
>> >> >> > I'm working with a USB mass storage device that accepts SCSI
>> >> >> > commands,
>> >> >> > and I'm trying to understand what this device supports. Are there
>> >> >> > any
>> >> >> > software tools that query a device with a user supplied SCSI
>> >> >> > command
>> >> >> > (eg INQUIRY) and is able to display the response data structure?
>> >> >> > I'm
>> >> >> > not even sure if the device supports SCSI-1 or SCSI-2 or what.

>>
>> >> >> > Thanks.

>>
>> >> >> What host platform and what o/s do you intend to use? Being USB
>> >> >> is a complication. I have some favorite DOS and Unix tools that
>> >> >> I use to generate custom commands and observe responses but
>> >> >> these work only with HBAs for which there are drivers or
>> >> >> direct hardware support.

>>
>> >> >> Regards,

>>
>> >> >> Michael

>>
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> > I'm working on Windows XP. Actually after some googling I've managed
>> >> > to find a tool called sg3_utils that supports quite a few OSes. I've
>> >> > tried it on a generic flash drive and it seems to work. However, if
>> >> > you have other suggestions I would like to hear about them too.
>> >> > Thanks!

>>
>> >> SCSI Utility for Windows

>>
>> >> Moojit

>>
>> > Thanks! That's a great tool, but it doesn't seem to recognize my USB
>> > mass storage devices, only my fixed HDDs, optical drives and virtual
>> > drives.

>>
>> If it doesn't recognize your USB device, it's not advertising itself as a
>> SCSI device. Therefore, it does not support SCSI.
>>
>> Moojit

>
> That's weird though, because with the sg3_utils toolset I'm able to
> send various SCSI commands to the USB device. USB mass storage devices
> actually use the SCSI command set.
>


But it's a different operating system, therefore, differences in
implementation are expected.

Moojit


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  #9  
Old 10-21-2007, 05:01 PM
galapogos
 
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Default Re: SCSI CDB response data structure

On Oct 21, 10:54 pm, "moojit" <moo...@moojit.net> wrote:
> "galapogos" <gois...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1192903274.206592.177980@q5g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Oct 20, 10:16 pm, "moojit" <moo...@moojit.net> wrote:
> >> "galapogos" <gois...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >>news:1192794103.892959.205680@v29g2000prd.google groups.com...

>
> >> > On Oct 18, 7:08 pm, "moojit" <moo...@moojit.net> wrote:
> >> >> "galapogos" <gois...@gmail.com> wrote in message

>
> >> >>news:1192689489.257212.310490@v29g2000prd.google groups.com...

>
> >> >> > On Oct 18, 1:30 pm, msg <msg@_cybertheque.org_> wrote:
> >> >> >> galapogos wrote:
> >> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> >> > I'm working with a USB mass storage device that accepts SCSI
> >> >> >> > commands,
> >> >> >> > and I'm trying to understand what this device supports. Are there
> >> >> >> > any
> >> >> >> > software tools that query a device with a user supplied SCSI
> >> >> >> > command
> >> >> >> > (eg INQUIRY) and is able to display the response data structure?
> >> >> >> > I'm
> >> >> >> > not even sure if the device supports SCSI-1 or SCSI-2 or what.

>
> >> >> >> > Thanks.

>
> >> >> >> What host platform and what o/s do you intend to use? Being USB
> >> >> >> is a complication. I have some favorite DOS and Unix tools that
> >> >> >> I use to generate custom commands and observe responses but
> >> >> >> these work only with HBAs for which there are drivers or
> >> >> >> direct hardware support.

>
> >> >> >> Regards,

>
> >> >> >> Michael

>
> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> > I'm working on Windows XP. Actually after some googling I've managed
> >> >> > to find a tool called sg3_utils that supports quite a few OSes. I've
> >> >> > tried it on a generic flash drive and it seems to work. However, if
> >> >> > you have other suggestions I would like to hear about them too.
> >> >> > Thanks!

>
> >> >> SCSI Utility for Windows

>
> >> >> Moojit

>
> >> > Thanks! That's a great tool, but it doesn't seem to recognize my USB
> >> > mass storage devices, only my fixed HDDs, optical drives and virtual
> >> > drives.

>
> >> If it doesn't recognize your USB device, it's not advertising itself as a
> >> SCSI device. Therefore, it does not support SCSI.

>
> >> Moojit

>
> > That's weird though, because with the sg3_utils toolset I'm able to
> > send various SCSI commands to the USB device. USB mass storage devices
> > actually use the SCSI command set.

>
> But it's a different operating system, therefore, differences in
> implementation are expected.
>
> Moojit


Actually I used the windows version of sg3_utils.

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Old 10-21-2007, 05:44 PM
Eric Gisin
 
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Default Re: SCSI CDB response data structure

"galapogos" <goister@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192982472.730671.222480@v29g2000prd.googlegr oups.com...
> On Oct 21, 10:54 pm, "moojit" <moo...@moojit.net> wrote:
>>
>> > That's weird though, because with the sg3_utils toolset I'm able to
>> > send various SCSI commands to the USB device. USB mass storage devices
>> > actually use the SCSI command set.

>>
>> But it's a different operating system, therefore, differences in
>> implementation are expected.

>
> Actually I used the windows version of sg3_utils.
>

Many SCSI utils use the obsolete and broken ASPI interface,
and cannot see USB devices. SPTI works with USB.

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