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Old 07-20-2008, 03:51 AM
johnsuth@nospam.com.au
 
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Default Adaptec 29160N


The Adaptec 29160N card has a seemingly redundant key slot on the PCI bus comb.

Adaptec literature is silent on the reason for this feature, but it may allow
the card to plug into a PCI-X slot.

Would this work and at what bus frequency?



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Old 07-20-2008, 04:30 AM
daytripper
 
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Default Re: Adaptec 29160N

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:51:55 GMT, johnsuth@nospam.com.au wrote:
>
>The Adaptec 29160N card has a seemingly redundant key slot on the PCI bus comb.
>
>Adaptec literature is silent on the reason for this feature, but it may allow
>the card to plug into a PCI-X slot.
>
>Would this work and at what bus frequency?


It will work in any PCI slot, or any PCI-X Mode 1 slot, but it is limited to
32 bits x 33mhz, regardless. If you plug it into a PCI-X bus, it will force
the bus to operate at 33mhz.
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Old 07-22-2008, 07:11 PM
Eric Gisin
 
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Default Re: Adaptec 29160N

"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:51:55 GMT, johnsuth@nospam.com.au wrote:
>>
>>The Adaptec 29160N card has a seemingly redundant key slot on the PCI bus comb.
>>
>>Adaptec literature is silent on the reason for this feature, but it may allow
>>the card to plug into a PCI-X slot.
>>

No, it's a standard PCI 2.1 feature (3.3/5V) for 66 Mhz.

>>Would this work and at what bus frequency?

>
> It will work in any PCI slot, or any PCI-X Mode 1 slot, but it is limited to
> 32 bits x 33mhz, regardless. If you plug it into a PCI-X bus, it will force
> the bus to operate at 33mhz.


No, all U160 cards are PCI 66Mhz. U320 is usually PCI-X.

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Old 07-23-2008, 12:06 AM
Folkert Rienstra
 
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Default Re: Adaptec 29160N

daytripper wrote in news:l5c584hlsut6dsqb25rink62215tp7v6br@4ax.com
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:51:55 GMT, johnsuth@nospam.com.au wrote:


> > The Adaptec 29160N card has a seemingly redundant key slot on the PCI bus comb.


'seemingly' redundant ?

As in: there is no need for it?

Why exactly is there no need for it?

> >
> > Adaptec literature is silent on the reason for this feature,


http://ask.adaptec.com/scripts/adapt...p?p_faqid=1903

Not entirely but above page would give you reason to think that that key
is indeed wrong (not redundant, just wrong) *if* you were to think that that
key is for PCI-X (or even 66MHz PCI):

> > but it may allow the card to plug into a PCI-X slot.


If that is what that key is for which I think it's not.
I believe it's just a 3.3V key which on a card merely means that it's not
limited to 5V signalling. As a consequence it can be used in PCI-X slots too.
The key may also be a clue to what (minimum) PCI specification the card
adheres to.

> >
> > Would this work and at what bus frequency?


> It will work in any PCI slot,


3.3V and 5V alike, since it has both 3.3 and 5 Volt keying.

> or any PCI-X Mode 1 slot,


Which apparenty uses 3.3V signalling _only_.

> but it is limited to 32 bits x 33mhz, regardless.


As is the specification for that card, (by omission?).
However, it's not the specification of the AIC7892 chip that it uses.

> If you plug it into a PCI-X bus, it will force the bus to operate at 33mhz.


As in 'PCI' mode.

However, since the chip is 66MHz capable (and also 64-bit capable, which
the card isn't, so maybe that can be configured off) it may run at 66MHz
too, unless that too can be configured off.
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