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Old 03-31-2008, 08:03 PM
lwoody7110
 
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Default Adaptec 2200S help requested

Hi all

My issue is my Adaptec 2200s can see my ATL library in its BIOS - but
windows 2003 SP2 can't.

The 2200S has two SCSI channels. The setup is below.

Channel 1 (internal)
ID2 HDD
ID15 HDD -> terminator

Channel 2 (external)
ID0 Library controller
ID1 DLT7000 -> terminator

The library works fine using an old Adaptec 2930CU via another machine
so I know the h/w is basically sound.

The 2200S is at factory defaults in the BIOS for channel 2.

I assume my issue is with termination some where - but I am not
understanding why the 2930CU works fine - but the 2200S doesn't

Any help appreciated.

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Old 03-31-2008, 11:18 PM
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Default Re: Adaptec 2200S help requested

lwoody7110 <lwoody@nildram.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> My issue is my Adaptec 2200s can see my ATL library in its BIOS - but
> windows 2003 SP2 can't.
>
> The 2200S has two SCSI channels. The setup is below.
>
> Channel 1 (internal)
> ID2 HDD
> ID15 HDD -> terminator
>
> Channel 2 (external)
> ID0 Library controller
> ID1 DLT7000 -> terminator
>
> The library works fine using an old Adaptec 2930CU via another machine
> so I know the h/w is basically sound.
>
> The 2200S is at factory defaults in the BIOS for channel 2.
>
> I assume my issue is with termination some where - but I am not
> understanding why the 2930CU works fine - but the 2200S doesn't
>
> Any help appreciated.


It's sort of weird to be connecting a tape drive to a RAID controller.

Use a normal SCSI card for tape drives.
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Old 04-01-2008, 08:41 AM
lwoody7110
 
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Default Re: Adaptec 2200S help requested

....but it should work though right?

I bought a two channel as the server is not high volume. For the time
being, the library is running off the 2930CU. I wish to understand
what the issue is even if I end up leaving the 2930CU in place.
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Old 04-01-2008, 10:39 AM
Michael Baeuerle
 
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Default Re: Adaptec 2200S help requested

lwoody7110 wrote:
>
> ...but it should work though right?


It should be supported by the card.

> I bought a two channel as the server is not high volume. For the time
> being, the library is running off the 2930CU. I wish to understand
> what the issue is even if I end up leaving the 2930CU in place.


Maybe your driver has no tape support. In the documentation of the Linux
driver there ist the following information:

| Introduction
| -------------------------
| The aacraid driver adds support for Adaptec (http://www.adaptec.com)
| RAID controllers. This is a major rewrite from the original
| Adaptec supplied driver. It has significantly cleaned up both the code
| and the running binary size (the module is less than half the size of
| the original).
|
| Supported Cards/Chipsets
| -------------------------
| PCI ID (pci.ids) OEM Product
| 9005:0285:9005:0285 Adaptec 2200S (Vulcan)
| [...]
| People
| -------------------------
| [...]
| Deanna Bonds
| (non-DASD support, PAE fibs and 64 bit, added new adaptec controllers
| added new ioctls, changed scsi interface to use new error handler,
| [...]

I read this as that the Adaptec supplied driver has lacked non-disk
support and it was added later. This implicitly means that it must be
possible with this card (and why should the BIOS show the tapes
otherwise). Maybe Adaptecs Windows drivers are based on the same code.
IMHO you should ask Adaptec if their Windows 2003 drivers have tape
support.


Micha
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: Adaptec 2200S help requested

lwoody7110 <lwoody@nildram.co.uk> wrote:
> ...but it should work though right?


It probably should work, but I have yet to see a config where a tape drive
is attached to a RAID card and works, unless it's an actual tape RAID
unit (yes, they actually exist). You could attach a scanner to a RAID card
as well, and it will detect it, but good luck trying to scan anything.
Same for attaching a hard disk to a SCSI based image processing card for
big scanners.

> I bought a two channel as the server is not high volume. For the time
> being, the library is running off the 2930CU. I wish to understand
> what the issue is even if I end up leaving the 2930CU in place.


It's going to come down to drivers and software.


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Old 04-02-2008, 08:42 AM
lwoody7110
 
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Default Re: Adaptec 2200S help requested

I rechecked the user guide for the 2200S. The manual states that the
2200S supports tape. It recommends using a different channel as I
have done.

http://download.adaptec.com/pdfs/ins...s_2200s_ig.pdf

Adaptec SCSI RAID controllers support:

” Ultra 2 and above SCSI drives (including hard disk, tape,
CD-ROM, CD-RW, and Magneto-Optical drives) and jukeboxes.
See Mixing Devices on a Channel on page 2-3 for more details.
” Multimode termination.

...so it looks like the card can support tape. Do you know how I can
tell if my terminator is multimode?

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Old 04-02-2008, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: Adaptec 2200S help requested

lwoody7110 <lwoody@nildram.co.uk> wrote:
> I rechecked the user guide for the 2200S. The manual states that the
> 2200S supports tape. It recommends using a different channel as I
> have done.
>
> http://download.adaptec.com/pdfs/ins...s_2200s_ig.pdf
>
> Adaptec SCSI RAID controllers support:
>
> ? Ultra 2 and above SCSI drives (including hard disk, tape,
> CD-ROM, CD-RW, and Magneto-Optical drives) and jukeboxes.
> See Mixing Devices on a Channel on page 2-3 for more details.
> ? Multimode termination.
>
> ...so it looks like the card can support tape. Do you know how I can
> tell if my terminator is multimode?


not sure what a multimode terminator is supposed to be.
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Old 04-02-2008, 04:51 PM
Michael Baeuerle
 
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Default Re: Adaptec 2200S help requested

Cydrome Leader wrote:
> lwoody7110 <lwoody@nildram.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Adaptec SCSI RAID controllers support:
> >
> > ? Ultra 2 and above SCSI drives (including hard disk, tape,
> > CD-ROM, CD-RW, and Magneto-Optical drives) and jukeboxes.
> > See Mixing Devices on a Channel on page 2-3 for more details.
> > ? Multimode termination.
> >
> > ...so it looks like the card can support tape. Do you know how I can
> > tell if my terminator is multimode?


If there is "LVD/SE" on the label or the corresponding Icon:
http://www.storagereview.com/guideIm..._iconlvdse.gif

> not sure what a multimode terminator is supposed to be.


One that can terminate both LVD and SE and switch to the required
configuration by monitoring the DIFFSENS Signal.


Micha
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:02 PM
Eric Gisin
 
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Default Re: Adaptec 2200S help requested

The 2930 you have your tape on is ultra-narrow, so your tape drive may be too.
It makes sense for RAID controllers to be LVD-only, so no ultra support.
I doubt they made any ultra2 CD drives. Were there many ultra2-narrow devices?

"lwoody7110" <lwoody@nildram.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ee5d8126-d95c-4861-b179-91ed7948834e@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
I rechecked the user guide for the 2200S. The manual states that the
2200S supports tape. It recommends using a different channel as I
have done.

http://download.adaptec.com/pdfs/ins...s_2200s_ig.pdf

Adaptec SCSI RAID controllers support:

” Ultra 2 and above SCSI drives (including hard disk, tape,
CD-ROM, CD-RW, and Magneto-Optical drives) and jukeboxes.
See Mixing Devices on a Channel on page 2-3 for more details.
” Multimode termination.

....so it looks like the card can support tape. Do you know how I can
tell if my terminator is multimode?

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Old 04-02-2008, 09:03 PM
lwoody7110
 
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Default Re: Adaptec 2200S help requested

This SCSI thing is very confusing. All ports/cables are 68 pin.
However, all are different sizes.

The library has a 68pin connector - the standard size I have seen on
all DLT drives.
2930CU has a HD 68 pin connector (smaller than the DLT)
2200S has a VHDC 68 pin connector (even smaller than the 2930CU)

I have installed the Adaptec Storage Manager software v2. I forced
the 2200S to 20mb. Annoyingly, this software can see the **** DLT in
the Library and Windows continues to not see either the Library or the
DLT in it.

My confusion deepens and I hate SCSI.

...any ideas?
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