I have an old PC with an Adaptec 1542C and an IDE disk.
Recently only the IDE disk was connected and the Adaptec was removed.
But now I want to make backups from my old SCSI disks (2 Fujitsu disks
with arround 400 and 1080MB!) and my SCSI tape Tandberg TDC 3660.
Terminators are present at the tape.
I configured the 1542C as to an old newsgroup posting from myself (I
had problems with that drive originally as well).
The 1542C recognizes a disk and the tape drive.
But when NT boots, it takes several minutes during the blue screen
while the tape's and the contoller's LEDs are blinking alternately for
several seconds. Suddenly it will go on booting (dotted line on blue
screen).
But in NT no devices on the Adaptec SCSI bus are reported and no tape
driver is loaded, the disk is not present (the contoller reported it
as D: while initiliazing and D: is not used otherwise).
Both devices are connected internally on the same cable.
I also tried on device at a time (with terminators installed on the
disk) and a 2 different cables.
>
> Hi all.
>
> I have an old PC with an Adaptec 1542C and an IDE disk.
>
> Recently only the IDE disk was connected and the Adaptec was removed.
> But now I want to make backups from my old SCSI disks (2 Fujitsu disks
> with arround 400 and 1080MB!) and my SCSI tape Tandberg TDC 3660.
>
> Terminators are present at the tape.
> I configured the 1542C as to an old newsgroup posting from myself (I
> had problems with that drive originally as well).
> The 1542C recognizes a disk and the tape drive.
> But when NT boots, it takes several minutes during the blue screen
> while the tape's and the contoller's LEDs are blinking alternately for
> several seconds. Suddenly it will go on booting (dotted line on blue
> screen).
>
> But in NT no devices on the Adaptec SCSI bus are reported and no tape
> driver is loaded, the disk is not present (the contoller reported it
> as D: while initiliazing and D: is not used otherwise).
>
> Both devices are connected internally on the same cable.
> I also tried on device at a time (with terminators installed on the
> disk) and a 2 different cables.
>
> Anybody got any idea as to what might be wrong?
>
> I'm sure it had worked before... but years ago...
>
> Thanks for any hint!
You probably need the NT4 drivers for the 1542c controller. They might
be on the NT4 install disk and might also be available for download from
Adaptec.
It should also be possible to just boot from any Linux Live CD -- most
Linux kernels come with the drivers for the 1542c.
The driver for the Adaptec Controller is installed and started. But in
the SCSI applet in Control panel under the Adaptec controller it shows
"no devices" (and "no tape drives" in the tape drives applet)
Linux might be a solution for the disk, but not for the tape.
I dont't want to make backups of the disks to the tape, but I want to
restore backups (to an external) disk, which were made using NT
Backup.
Sorry, if I haven't been clear enough.
On 12 Mai, 16:40, Robert Heller <hel...@deepsoft.com> wrote:
> At Tue, 12 May 2009 06:38:07 -0700 (PDT) harald.henkel....@web.de wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi all.
>
> > I have an old PC with an Adaptec 1542C and an IDE disk.
>
> > Recently only the IDE disk was connected and the Adaptec was removed.
> > But now I want to make backups from my old SCSI disks (2 Fujitsu disks
> > with arround 400 and 1080MB!) and my SCSI tape Tandberg TDC 3660.
>
> > Terminators are present at the tape.
> > I configured the 1542C as to an old newsgroup posting from myself (I
> > had problems with that drive originally as well).
> > The 1542C recognizes a disk and the tape drive.
> > But when NT boots, it takes several minutes during the blue screen
> > while the tape's and the contoller's LEDs are blinking alternately for
> > several seconds. Suddenly it will go on booting (dotted line on blue
> > screen).
>
> > But in NT no devices on the Adaptec SCSI bus are reported and no tape
> > driver is loaded, the disk is not present (the contoller reported it
> > as D: while initiliazing and D: is not used otherwise).
>
> > Both devices are connected internally on the same cable.
> > I also tried on device at a time (with terminators installed on the
> > disk) and a 2 different cables.
>
> > Anybody got any idea as to what might be wrong?
>
> > I'm sure it had worked before... but years ago...
>
> > Thanks for any hint!
>
> You probably need the NT4 drivers for the 1542c controller. *They might
> be on the NT4 install disk and might also be available for download from
> Adaptec.
>
> It should also be possible to just boot from any Linux Live CD -- most
> Linux kernels come with the drivers for the 1542c.
>
>
>
> > Regards,
> > Harald Henkel
>
> --
> Robert Heller * * * * * * -- 978-544-6933
> Deepwoods Software * * * *-- Download the Model Railroad Systemhttp://www.deepsoft.com/*-- Binaries for Linux and MS-Windows
> hel...@deepsoft.com * * * --http://www.deepsoft.com/ModelRailroadSystem/
Check System in event log first.
You've probably got an resource conflict. I recall COM/LPT was common.
Non PnP devices have to reserved in the BIOS (IRQ & DMA).
Could also be a chipset that does not do ISA bus mastering.
<harald.henkel.dah@web.de> wrote in message
news:a819466e-52ea-4955-97ce-9891832fa241@b1g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
> Hi all.
>
> I have an old PC with an Adaptec 1542C and an IDE disk.
>
> Recently only the IDE disk was connected and the Adaptec was removed.
> But now I want to make backups from my old SCSI disks (2 Fujitsu disks
> with arround 400 and 1080MB!) and my SCSI tape Tandberg TDC 3660.
>
On 12 Mai, 22:02, "Eric Gisin" <gi...@uniserve.com> wrote:
> Check System in event log first.
> You've probably got an resource conflict. I recall COM/LPT was common.
> Non PnP devices have to reserved in the BIOS (IRQ & DMA).
>
> Could also be a chipset that does not do ISA bus mastering.
>
> <harald.henkel....@web.de> wrote in message
>
Ok, I checked the resources but didn't find anything wrong.
I could write all the information down into a posting, but didn't have
time for this, this morning.
The NT4 Device Manager doesn't show conflicts, or if it would show
them, there would seem to be none.
I once had a SoundBaster Card in that PC, which I had removed "some
time" ago, while the sndblst service/driver was still on SYSTEM and
caused an error message in event log, not being loaded successfully.
I deactivated it today, but this didn't help.
After booting, there are two error messages about some bogus DHCP
messages (type 042, length 4 or such), one before the EventLog Start
message, one after.
Then come 21 messages that device \device\ScsiPort1 didn't respond in
timeout time, which might respond to the "blinking" LEDs.
Then come a couple of messages about the successful start of some
services for my Teles ISDN card, which I don't really need anymore.
I'll remove that one this evening and try again.
Lastly comes the message about not successfully started services (only
tandtape now).
Could it still be the SCSI cable? I tried with 3 different, but they
are all old and might have got broken will laying arround in some
boxes and getting scrubled...
I'll also check the BIOS settings thorrowly, which I didn't until now.
> news:a819466e-52ea-4955-97ce-9891832fa241@b1g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Hi all.
>
> > I have an old PC with an Adaptec 1542C and an IDE disk.
>
> > Recently only the IDE disk was connected and the Adaptec was removed.
> > But now I want to make backups from my old SCSI disks (2 Fujitsu disks
> > with arround 400 and 1080MB!) and my SCSI tape Tandberg TDC 3660.
harald.henkel.dah@web.de wrote:
>
> The driver for the Adaptec Controller is installed and started. But in
> the SCSI applet in Control panel under the Adaptec controller it shows
> "no devices" (and "no tape drives" in the tape drives applet)
>
> Linux might be a solution for the disk, but not for the tape.
> I dont't want to make backups of the disks to the tape, but I want to
> restore backups (to an external) disk, which were made using NT
> Backup.
>
> Sorry, if I haven't been clear enough.
Even if you cannot use Linux for data backup you can use it to verify
whether the Adaptec HA is working correctly in your machine. Maybe it
gives you a better error message than "no drives found" if this is not
the case ...
>
> On 12 Mai, 22:02, "Eric Gisin" <gi...@uniserve.com> wrote:
> > Check System in event log first.
> > You've probably got an resource conflict. I recall COM/LPT was common.
> > Non PnP devices have to reserved in the BIOS (IRQ & DMA).
> >
> > Could also be a chipset that does not do ISA bus mastering.
> >
> > <harald.henkel....@web.de> wrote in message
> >
>
> Ok, I checked the resources but didn't find anything wrong.
> I could write all the information down into a posting, but didn't have
> time for this, this morning.
> The NT4 Device Manager doesn't show conflicts, or if it would show
> them, there would seem to be none.
I wouldn't look in the NT4 Device Manager, but in the BIOS.
The AHA-1542 is NOT a PnP device -- you need to reserve its IRQ in the
BIOS. Also, the 1542 includes a floppy controller -- if there is a
floppy controller on the motherboard, you need to disable the floppy
controller on the 1542 -- there is a jumper for that I believe.
>
> I once had a SoundBaster Card in that PC, which I had removed "some
> time" ago, while the sndblst service/driver was still on SYSTEM and
> caused an error message in event log, not being loaded successfully.
> I deactivated it today, but this didn't help.
>
> After booting, there are two error messages about some bogus DHCP
> messages (type 042, length 4 or such), one before the EventLog Start
> message, one after.
> Then come 21 messages that device \device\ScsiPort1 didn't respond in
> timeout time, which might respond to the "blinking" LEDs.
> Then come a couple of messages about the successful start of some
> services for my Teles ISDN card, which I don't really need anymore.
> I'll remove that one this evening and try again.
> Lastly comes the message about not successfully started services (only
> tandtape now).
>
> Could it still be the SCSI cable? I tried with 3 different, but they
> are all old and might have got broken will laying arround in some
> boxes and getting scrubled...
>
> I'll also check the BIOS settings thorrowly, which I didn't until now.
>
>
> > news:a819466e-52ea-4955-97ce-9891832fa241@b1g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > Hi all.
> >
> > > I have an old PC with an Adaptec 1542C and an IDE disk.
> >
> > > Recently only the IDE disk was connected and the Adaptec was removed.
> > > But now I want to make backups from my old SCSI disks (2 Fujitsu disks
> > > with arround 400 and 1080MB!) and my SCSI tape Tandberg TDC 3660.
>
>
On 13 Mai, 12:20, Robert Heller <hel...@deepsoft.com> wrote:
> At Wed, 13 May 2009 01:03:08 -0700 (PDT) harald.henkel....@web.de wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 12 Mai, 22:02, "Eric Gisin" <gi...@uniserve.com> wrote:
> > > Check System in event log first.
> > > You've probably got an resource conflict. I recall COM/LPT was common..
> > > Non PnP devices have to reserved in the BIOS (IRQ & DMA).
>
> > > Could also be a chipset that does not do ISA bus mastering.
>
> > > <harald.henkel....@web.de> wrote in message
>
> > Ok, I checked the resources but didn't find anything wrong.
> > I could write all the information down into a posting, but didn't have
> > time for this, this morning.
> > The NT4 Device Manager doesn't show conflicts, or if it would show
> > them, there would seem to be none.
>
> I wouldn't look in the NT4 Device Manager, but in the BIOS.
>
> The AHA-1542 is NOT a PnP device -- you need to reserve its IRQ in the
> BIOS. *Also, the 1542 includes a floppy controller -- if there is a
> floppy controller on the motherboard, you need to disable the floppy
> controller on the 1542 -- there is a jumper for that I believe.
I know this. The 1542 floppy controller is already disabled.
The IO-Port-Address is set to 330 via switches, IRQ and memory address
are set via Scsi-Select (Adapter BIOS).
WinNT report all the addresses, ports, irq of my installed cards and
there seems to be no conflict.
I will check the BIOS anyway this evening (as already stated above).
>
>
>
>
>
> > I once had a SoundBaster Card in that PC, which I had removed "some
> > time" ago, while the sndblst service/driver was still on SYSTEM and
> > caused an error message in event log, not being loaded successfully.
> > I deactivated it today, but this didn't help.
>
> > After booting, there are two error messages about some bogus DHCP
> > messages (type 042, length 4 or such), one before the EventLog Start
> > message, one after.
> > Then come 21 messages that device \device\ScsiPort1 didn't respond in
> > timeout time, which might respond to the "blinking" LEDs.
> > Then come a couple of messages about the successful start of some
> > services for my Teles ISDN card, which I don't really need anymore.
> > I'll remove that one this evening and try again.
> > Lastly comes the message about not successfully started services (only
> > tandtape now).
>
> > Could it still be the SCSI cable? I tried with 3 different, but they
> > are all old and might have got broken will laying arround in some
> > boxes and getting scrubled...
>
> > I'll also check the BIOS settings thorrowly, which I didn't until now.
>
> > >news:a819466e-52ea-4955-97ce-9891832fa241@b1g2000vbc.googlegroups.com....
>
> > > > Hi all.
>
> > > > I have an old PC with an Adaptec 1542C and an IDE disk.
>
> > > > Recently only the IDE disk was connected and the Adaptec was removed.
> > > > But now I want to make backups from my old SCSI disks (2 Fujitsu disks
> > > > with arround 400 and 1080MB!) and my SCSI tape Tandberg TDC 3660.
>
> --
> Robert Heller * * * * * * -- 978-544-6933
> Deepwoods Software * * * *-- Download the Model Railroad Systemhttp://www.deepsoft.com/*-- Binaries for Linux and MS-Windows
> hel...@deepsoft.com * * * --http://www.deepsoft.com/ModelRailroadSystem/
On 13 Mai, 11:23, Michael Baeuerle <michael.baeue...@stz-e.de> wrote:
> harald.henkel....@web.de wrote:
>
> > The driver for the Adaptec Controller is installed and started. But in
> > the SCSI applet in Control panel under the Adaptec controller it shows
> > "no devices" (and "no tape drives" in the tape drives applet)
>
> > Linux might be a solution for the disk, but not for the tape.
> > I dont't want to make backups of the disks to the tape, but I want to
> > restore backups (to an external) disk, which were made using NT
> > Backup.
>
> > Sorry, if I haven't been clear enough.
>
> Even if you cannot use Linux for data backup you can use it to verify
> whether the Adaptec HA is working correctly in your machine. Maybe it
> gives you a better error message than "no drives found" if this is not
> the case ...
>
> Micha
Thanks for that hint. I will try this, if the BIOS check doesn't give
any results.
I have some old SuseLinux 7 installed on a partion of my IDE drive
anyway, but I need to boot it with a diskette (didn't install the boot
loader on my HD) and I hope I find that diskette and its still
readable.
Ok. It was the BIOS. When I removed the 1542 from the PC, I also reset
all the BIOS settings for the ISA-Bus etc.
Not it goes boots quickly, but it seems there are still some problems.
On booting, NT wanted to make a chkdsk and found most of D: (a FAT
partition to be corrupt, moving clusters and deleting directories).
The second drive (should be NTFS) I didn't let the chkdsk run.
Filemanager sees the two drives, but couldn't access them.
In the EventLog there are so many error messages regarding that disk,
that it overflowed...
I will check BIOS further, when I have time... :-)
On 13 Mai, 13:56, harald.henkel....@web.de wrote:
> On 13 Mai, 12:20, Robert Heller <hel...@deepsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > At Wed, 13 May 2009 01:03:08 -0700 (PDT) harald.henkel....@web.de wrote:
>
> > > On 12 Mai, 22:02, "Eric Gisin" <gi...@uniserve.com> wrote:
> > > > Check System in event log first.
> > > > You've probably got an resource conflict. I recall COM/LPT was common.
> > > > Non PnP devices have to reserved in the BIOS (IRQ & DMA).
>
> > > > Could also be a chipset that does not do ISA bus mastering.
>
> > > > <harald.henkel....@web.de> wrote in message
>
> > > Ok, I checked the resources but didn't find anything wrong.
> > > I could write all the information down into a posting, but didn't have
> > > time for this, this morning.
> > > The NT4 Device Manager doesn't show conflicts, or if it would show
> > > them, there would seem to be none.
>
> > I wouldn't look in the NT4 Device Manager, but in the BIOS.
>
> > The AHA-1542 is NOT a PnP device -- you need to reserve its IRQ in the
> > BIOS. *Also, the 1542 includes a floppy controller -- if there is a
> > floppy controller on the motherboard, you need to disable the floppy
> > controller on the 1542 -- there is a jumper for that I believe.
>
> I know this. The 1542 floppy controller is already disabled.
> The IO-Port-Address is set to 330 via switches, IRQ and memory address
> are set via Scsi-Select (Adapter BIOS).
> WinNT report all the addresses, ports, irq of my installed cards and
> there seems to be no conflict.
>
> I will check the BIOS anyway this evening (as already stated above).
>
>
>
> > > I once had a SoundBaster Card in that PC, which I had removed "some
> > > time" ago, while the sndblst service/driver was still on SYSTEM and
> > > caused an error message in event log, not being loaded successfully.
> > > I deactivated it today, but this didn't help.
>
> > > After booting, there are two error messages about some bogus DHCP
> > > messages (type 042, length 4 or such), one before the EventLog Start
> > > message, one after.
> > > Then come 21 messages that device \device\ScsiPort1 didn't respond in
> > > timeout time, which might respond to the "blinking" LEDs.
> > > Then come a couple of messages about the successful start of some
> > > services for my Teles ISDN card, which I don't really need anymore.
> > > I'll remove that one this evening and try again.
> > > Lastly comes the message about not successfully started services (only
> > > tandtape now).
>
> > > Could it still be the SCSI cable? I tried with 3 different, but they
> > > are all old and might have got broken will laying arround in some
> > > boxes and getting scrubled...
>
> > > I'll also check the BIOS settings thorrowly, which I didn't until now..
>
> > > >news:a819466e-52ea-4955-97ce-9891832fa241@b1g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > > Hi all.
>
> > > > > I have an old PC with an Adaptec 1542C and an IDE disk.
>
> > > > > Recently only the IDE disk was connected and the Adaptec was removed.
> > > > > But now I want to make backups from my old SCSI disks (2 Fujitsu disks
> > > > > with arround 400 and 1080MB!) and my SCSI tape Tandberg TDC 3660.
>
> > --
> > Robert Heller * * * * * * -- 978-544-6933
> > Deepwoods Software * * * *-- Download the Model Railroad Systemhttp://www.deepsoft.com/*-- Binaries for Linux and MS-Windows
> > hel...@deepsoft.com * * * --http://www.deepsoft.com/ModelRailroadSystem/
Adaptec 1542C with NT4 
Linear Mode
