In article <dc14781d-21d6-4d82-b7f9-01f4278755e9@z9g2000yqi.googlegroups
..com>, harald.henkel.dah@web.de writes
>On www.oldversion.com I couldn't find ANY sort of backup software.
>Maybe i'm blind...
I didn't check, but if you're gonna find an old version of anything,
it'll usually be on oldversion.com
I have two versions of Backup Exec on CD. One is badged IBM and
contains Seagate Backup Exec for Windows/95/98/NT, claiming to be
Seagate version 3.0, and the other is "Quantum Software Kit", containing
Veritas Backup Exec 10 for Windows Servers. Both are original CDs with
keys.
If you contact me off-list (the email address is valid) and supply me
with some beer vouchers to cover postage, I'll post them to you. I
don't guarantee they will work, it's your choice if you want to try
them.
On 22 Mai, 20:27, Robert Heller <hel...@deepsoft.com> wrote:
> At Fri, 22 May 2009 10:31:06 -0700 (PDT) harald.henkel....@web.de wrote:
> > There are a lot of tools for reading (corrupted) BKF files, but only
> > from disk, which doesn't help me much.
>
> If you can install cygwin you would have dd, which would let you copy
> the tape to disk and then use the 'tools for reading (corrupted) BKF
> files'.
Ok. I installed Cygwin 1.7 on the PC.
What am I supposed to do with it?
>
> On 22 Mai, 20:27, Robert Heller <hel...@deepsoft.com> wrote:
> > At Fri, 22 May 2009 10:31:06 -0700 (PDT) harald.henkel....@web.de wrote:
> > > There are a lot of tools for reading (corrupted) BKF files, but only
> > > from disk, which doesn't help me much.
> >
> > If you can install cygwin you would have dd, which would let you copy
> > the tape to disk and then use the 'tools for reading (corrupted) BKF
> > files'.
>
> Ok. I installed Cygwin 1.7 on the PC.
> What am I supposed to do with it?
>
> How can dd (or any other command) read the tape?
Fire up bash shell and type:
dd if=/dev/st0 of=/somefilename
Assumes that '/dev/st0' is a (fake?) device file for the tape drive.
I'm presuming that there is some mapping in Cygwin world for things like
tape drives. (That is possibly optimistic on my part and assumes that
NT has anything like device files in the first place.) Oh, dd might need
some additional parameters, like bs= (block size).
On 26 Mai, 00:05, Robert Heller <hel...@deepsoft.com> wrote:
> At Mon, 25 May 2009 14:30:48 -0700 (PDT) harald.henkel....@web.de wrote:
> > Ok. I installed Cygwin 1.7 on the PC.
> > What am I supposed to do with it?
>
> > How can dd (or any other command) read the tape?
>
> Fire up bash shell and type:
>
> dd if=/dev/st0 of=/somefilename
>
> Assumes that '/dev/st0' is a (fake?) device file for the tape drive.
> I'm presuming that there is some mapping in Cygwin world for things like
> tape drives. *(That is possibly optimistic on my part and assumes that
> NT has anything like device files in the first place.) Oh, dd might need
> some additional parameters, like bs= (block size).
It seems st0 is known.
With the above command I get a 1024 byte file, starting with TAPE,
date and time of tape creation in clear text followed by the creating
program "Backup Exec for Windows NT (bewinnt.exe) Version 6.0 Rev.
108.
So this looks like I once had that program, but now I don't. And I
didn't find any Website where I could download it.
Might the Seagate Backup 3.0 be compatible with that?
I tried also
dd if=/dev/st0 of=/somefilename bs=512 skip=2
but it doesn't read anything, as if there wasn't anything else on the
tape after those two block with the tape header which it could read.
I now tried also for a tape for a DAT tape.
The file looks the same, only that it says Windows NT Backup
(ntbackup.exe) version 3.41... and it also doesn't read further after
the header.
So what now. Can dd read all the tape and create a bkf file which I
could then read with some other program? How?
Or would I be bound to use a Backup Exec 6.0 and NT4 compatible packup
program?
>
> On 26 Mai, 00:05, Robert Heller <hel...@deepsoft.com> wrote:
> > At Mon, 25 May 2009 14:30:48 -0700 (PDT) harald.henkel....@web.de wrote:
> > > Ok. I installed Cygwin 1.7 on the PC.
> > > What am I supposed to do with it?
> >
> > > How can dd (or any other command) read the tape?
> >
> > Fire up bash shell and type:
> >
> > dd if=3D/dev/st0 of=3D/somefilename
> >
> > Assumes that '/dev/st0' is a (fake?) device file for the tape drive.
> > I'm presuming that there is some mapping in Cygwin world for things like
> > tape drives. =A0(That is possibly optimistic on my part and assumes that
> > NT has anything like device files in the first place.) Oh, dd might need
> > some additional parameters, like bs=3D (block size).
>
> It seems st0 is known.
> With the above command I get a 1024 byte file, starting with TAPE,
> date and time of tape creation in clear text followed by the creating
> program "Backup Exec for Windows NT (bewinnt.exe) Version 6.0 Rev.
> 108.
>
> So this looks like I once had that program, but now I don't. And I
> didn't find any Website where I could download it.
> Might the Seagate Backup 3.0 be compatible with that?
>
> I tried also
> dd if=3D/dev/st0 of=3D/somefilename bs=3D512 skip=3D2
> but it doesn't read anything, as if there wasn't anything else on the
> tape after those two block with the tape header which it could read.
dd will only read 'files'. It *looks* like this tape was written using
some flavor of tape labels, which are small 'files' that 'label' big
files containing data, with the idea of 'faking' a serialized file
system of sorts on the tape, typically starting with a 'volume' label,
then file or header labels, containing things like file names, dates,
and other information that might live in a directory entry record for a
disk file (eg owner, permissions, and other attributes). Old mainframe
OSes (such as VMS) did this so one could treat a tape like it was just
a really slow disk drive and copy files to/from the tape using typical
file commands like copy and get directories of tapes with the dir
command, etc.
You also need to use the 'mt' program, which spaces/skips the tape to
differenent places on the tape, in this case by skiping forward over
the label 'files'. You also need to use the non-rewinding device
(/dev/nst0), otherwise each access causes the tape to be rewound.
>
> I now tried also for a tape for a DAT tape.
> The file looks the same, only that it says Windows NT Backup
> (ntbackup.exe) version 3.41... and it also doesn't read further after
> the header.
>
> So what now. Can dd read all the tape and create a bkf file which I
> could then read with some other program? How?
> Or would I be bound to use a Backup Exec 6.0 and NT4 compatible packup
> program?
You probably need Backup Exec 6.0 or some replacement for it. I think
another poster said he had a set of CDs with this program on it.
In article <41b35980-c005-430d-ac62-870ab3c3db03@f19g2000yqh.googlegroup
s.com>, harald.henkel.dah@web.de writes
>It seems st0 is known.
I think Cygwin only creates it if the Windows equivalent \\.\tape0
exists. I have Cygwin installed but no tape drive and no \\.\tape0 or
st0.
>With the above command I get a 1024 byte file, starting with TAPE,
>date and time of tape creation in clear text followed by the creating
>program "Backup Exec for Windows NT (bewinnt.exe) Version 6.0 Rev.
>108.
Excellent! Pity a standard wasn't developed for all tape backups to do
this so that software could say things like "You need <whatever> to read
this tape" instead of "Unrecognised or unformatted tape"
>So this looks like I once had that program, but now I don't. And I
>didn't find any Website where I could download it.
>Might the Seagate Backup 3.0 be compatible with that?
I've just looked at the two copies of Backup Exec I have. On the first,
although the CD itself proudly proclaims "Seagate Software version 3.0",
when it is placed in the drive it pops up a browser with a list of
programs to install. This includes
Seagate Backup Exec for Windows 95/NT, version 2.0j
Seagate Backup Exec for Windows, version 5.6
Reading the readme files suggests that the second is for Windows 3.1.
I don't think this CD is suitable for you.
The second is labelled "VERITAS Backup Exec 10". Inserting it results
in a popup "Veritas Backup for Windows Servers". Looking at the quick
installation guide, it says last updated May 6, 2005. Be aware that
this may not install on non-server OSes. I ran the installer up to the
point at which it was about to install files on XP Pro and no objections
were raised, but YMMV. It might refuse to run.
If it were me in your situation, I'd look around for a copy of BE6. The
first CD I have is too early and the second too late. Up to you if you
want to try them.
On 27 Mai, 09:18, Mike Tomlinson <m...@jasper.org.uk> wrote:
> If it were me in your situation, I'd look around for a copy of BE6.
Some good news and some bad news (from my point of view of course).
I got a download link from Symantec for Backup Exec 7.3, which I could
install on my NT4 PC.
And it recognizes the tapes.
And it could catalogue and restore one of the 3 tapes...
But for the other two tapes, while catalogueing, I receive the well
known error 9 for the Adaptec controller (timeout).
And while I was able to restore the NTBackup tapes without
catalogueing (at least the first backup set on the tape) Backup Exec
won't let me restore a tape which is not catalogued.
>
> On 27 Mai, 09:18, Mike Tomlinson <m...@jasper.org.uk> wrote:
> > If it were me in your situation, I'd look around for a copy of BE6.
>
> Some good news and some bad news (from my point of view of course).
>
> I got a download link from Symantec for Backup Exec 7.3, which I could
> install on my NT4 PC.
> And it recognizes the tapes.
> And it could catalogue and restore one of the 3 tapes...
>
> But for the other two tapes, while catalogueing, I receive the well
> known error 9 for the Adaptec controller (timeout).
Sounds like possibly dirty or damaged tapes. These might not be
recoverable.
> And while I was able to restore the NTBackup tapes without
> catalogueing (at least the first backup set on the tape) Backup Exec
> won't let me restore a tape which is not catalogued.
>
>
On 28 Mai, 23:15, Robert Heller <hel...@deepsoft.com> wrote:
> At Thu, 28 May 2009 12:36:00 -0700 (PDT) harald.henkel....@web.de wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 27 Mai, 09:18, Mike Tomlinson <m...@jasper.org.uk> wrote:
> > > If it were me in your situation, I'd look around for a copy of BE6.
>
> > Some good news and some bad news (from my point of view of course).
>
> > I got a download link from Symantec for Backup Exec 7.3, which I could
> > install on my NT4 PC.
> > And it recognizes the tapes.
> > And it could catalogue and restore one of the 3 tapes...
>
> > But for the other two tapes, while catalogueing, I receive the well
> > known error 9 for the Adaptec controller (timeout).
>
> Sounds like possibly dirty or damaged tapes. *These might not be
> recoverable.
No. In fact, before I wrote the last posting I looked at the possible
configuration options, and there was one, that seemed to indicate,
that there is a different way of catalogueing:
One is reading the catalog stored on the tape, which was checked. This
is quite fast.
When unchecked, Backup Exec scanns the whole tape. This takes the same
time as restoring, only that no files are actually restored.
After that finished successfully, restoring the tape worked as well.
Only that by default restoring the file ACL are restored as well which
did not work.
Backup Exec protocolled an error for every file, counted all files as
skipped and the restore session as failed.
Yet all the files were in fact restored.
On the second record set on the first tape which did not work with
normal catalogueing I switched ACL restoring off and no errors were
protocolled.
So everything seems to be fine!
I will let Backup Exec restore the third tape tomorrow and will than
catalugue all the other tapes (11 QIC, 5 DAT) with this mothod just to
check if there are some with more record sets on them, than NTBackup
reported.
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