Today I tried the tape again.
The PC boots and the tape drive is recognized, but when trying to get
the catalog from a tape after a couple if minutes I receive an error
in EventLog Event-ID: 9, timeout for the \device\ScsiPort1
I tried to squeese some BIOS settings but nothing worked so far.
BTW, the mainboard is an ASUS P/I55T2P4.
Anybody got ideas, what could still be wrong?
On 13 Mai, 19:13, harald.henkel....@web.de wrote:
> Ok. It was the BIOS. When I removed the 1542 from the PC, I also reset
> all the BIOS settings for the ISA-Bus etc.
> Not it goes boots quickly, but it seems there are still some problems.
> On booting, NT wanted to make a chkdsk and found most of D: (a FAT
> partition to be corrupt, moving clusters and deleting directories).
> The second drive (should be NTFS) I didn't let the chkdsk run.
> Filemanager sees the two drives, but couldn't access them.
> In the EventLog there are so many error messages regarding that disk,
> that it overflowed...
>
> I will check BIOS further, when I have time... :-)
>
> On 13 Mai, 13:56, harald.henkel....@web.de wrote:
>
> > On 13 Mai, 12:20, Robert Heller <hel...@deepsoft.com> wrote:
>
> > > At Wed, 13 May 2009 01:03:08 -0700 (PDT) harald.henkel....@web.de wrote:
>
> > > > On 12 Mai, 22:02, "Eric Gisin" <gi...@uniserve.com> wrote:
> > > > > Check System in event log first.
> > > > > You've probably got an resource conflict. I recall COM/LPT was common.
> > > > > Non PnP devices have to reserved in the BIOS (IRQ & DMA).
>
> > > > > Could also be a chipset that does not do ISA bus mastering.
>
> > > > > <harald.henkel....@web.de> wrote in message
>
> > > > Ok, I checked the resources but didn't find anything wrong.
> > > > I could write all the information down into a posting, but didn't have
> > > > time for this, this morning.
> > > > The NT4 Device Manager doesn't show conflicts, or if it would show
> > > > them, there would seem to be none.
>
> > > I wouldn't look in the NT4 Device Manager, but in the BIOS.
>
> > > The AHA-1542 is NOT a PnP device -- you need to reserve its IRQ in the
> > > BIOS. *Also, the 1542 includes a floppy controller -- if there is a
> > > floppy controller on the motherboard, you need to disable the floppy
> > > controller on the 1542 -- there is a jumper for that I believe.
>
> > I know this. The 1542 floppy controller is already disabled.
> > The IO-Port-Address is set to 330 via switches, IRQ and memory address
> > are set via Scsi-Select (Adapter BIOS).
> > WinNT report all the addresses, ports, irq of my installed cards and
> > there seems to be no conflict.
>
> > I will check the BIOS anyway this evening (as already stated above).
>
> > > > I once had a SoundBaster Card in that PC, which I had removed "some
> > > > time" ago, while the sndblst service/driver was still on SYSTEM and
> > > > caused an error message in event log, not being loaded successfully..
> > > > I deactivated it today, but this didn't help.
>
> > > > After booting, there are two error messages about some bogus DHCP
> > > > messages (type 042, length 4 or such), one before the EventLog Start
> > > > message, one after.
> > > > Then come 21 messages that device \device\ScsiPort1 didn't respond in
> > > > timeout time, which might respond to the "blinking" LEDs.
> > > > Then come a couple of messages about the successful start of some
> > > > services for my Teles ISDN card, which I don't really need anymore.
> > > > I'll remove that one this evening and try again.
> > > > Lastly comes the message about not successfully started services (only
> > > > tandtape now).
>
> > > > Could it still be the SCSI cable? I tried with 3 different, but they
> > > > are all old and might have got broken will laying arround in some
> > > > boxes and getting scrubled...
>
> > > > I'll also check the BIOS settings thorrowly, which I didn't until now.
>
> > > > >news:a819466e-52ea-4955-97ce-9891832fa241@b1g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > > > Hi all.
>
> > > > > > I have an old PC with an Adaptec 1542C and an IDE disk.
>
> > > > > > Recently only the IDE disk was connected and the Adaptec was removed.
> > > > > > But now I want to make backups from my old SCSI disks (2 Fujitsu disks
> > > > > > with arround 400 and 1080MB!) and my SCSI tape Tandberg TDC 3660.
>
> > > --
> > > Robert Heller * * * * * * -- 978-544-6933
> > > Deepwoods Software * * * *-- Download the Model Railroad Systemhttp://www.deepsoft.com/*-- Binaries for Linux and MS-Windows
> > > hel...@deepsoft.com * * * --http://www.deepsoft.com/ModelRailroadSystem/
It's an ISA bus-mastering device, which is not well supported by PCI-ISA bridges.
You are seeing data corruption. There is a bus-speed setting: 10/8/... MB/s, maybe it's too high.
<harald.henkel.dah@web.de> wrote in message
news:b30f5697-3b4c-418f-9e12-6a6f20531a3a@x6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
Ok. It was the BIOS. When I removed the 1542 from the PC, I also reset
all the BIOS settings for the ISA-Bus etc.
Not it goes boots quickly, but it seems there are still some problems.
On booting, NT wanted to make a chkdsk and found most of D: (a FAT
partition to be corrupt, moving clusters and deleting directories).
The second drive (should be NTFS) I didn't let the chkdsk run.
Filemanager sees the two drives, but couldn't access them.
In the EventLog there are so many error messages regarding that disk,
that it overflowed...
I will check BIOS further, when I have time... :-)
Ok. I tweeked all switches in the BIOS which affect PCI and/or ISA
bus.
Nothing helped. I also tried my third SCSI cable... neither.
What I didn't tell you up to now is, I also have an external DAT tape
drive with a couple of tapes I want to restore, but, I planned to
spare up that one until after restoring the disks and the QIC tapes.
Now, yesterday I tried this one and what shall I say, it works just
fine, with "default" BIOS settings (of course those for the ISA bus
resources for the Adaptec not changed).
I just restores the 4th DAT tape without any problem, not even a
single unreadable file, and that although the tapes are between 9 and
12 years old.
BTW, the disk where I restore the data to is an USB device connected
to my DSL router (Frtitz!Box 7270) connected to the PC by CAT5 cable
to simple PCI network card.
So there is obviously no conflict between ISA and PCI either.
But what could still be the problem for the timeout (Event-ID:9) while
cataloging a tape in the QIC.
I'm sure that the devices are all terminated properly.
Only no grounding is attached at the moment. Could this be a problem?
I tried 3 different SCSI cables. And it is difficult to get such
cables now...
Any ideas left?
On 15 Mai, 04:57, "Eric Gisin" <gi...@uniserve.com> wrote:
> It's an ISA bus-mastering device, which is not well supported by PCI-ISA bridges.
> You are seeing data corruption. There is a bus-speed setting: 10/8/... MB/s, maybe it's too high.
>
> <harald.henkel....@web.de> wrote in message
>
> news:b30f5697-3b4c-418f-9e12-6a6f20531a3a@x6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
> Ok. It was the BIOS. When I removed the 1542 from the PC, I also reset
> all the BIOS settings for the ISA-Bus etc.
> Not it goes boots quickly, but it seems there are still some problems.
> On booting, NT wanted to make a chkdsk and found most of D: (a FAT
> partition to be corrupt, moving clusters and deleting directories).
> The second drive (should be NTFS) I didn't let the chkdsk run.
> Filemanager sees the two drives, but couldn't access them.
> In the EventLog there are so many error messages regarding that disk,
> that it overflowed...
>
> I will check BIOS further, when I have time... :-)
Ok. I tweeked all switches in the BIOS which affect PCI and/or ISA
bus.
Nothing helped. I also tried my third SCSI cable... neither.
What I didn't tell you up to now is, I also have an external DAT tape
drive with a couple of tapes I want to restore, but, I planned to
spare up that one until after restoring the disks and the QIC tapes.
Now, yesterday I tried this one and what shall I say, it works just
fine, with "default" BIOS settings (of course those for the ISA bus
resources for the Adaptec not changed).
I just restores the 4th DAT tape without any problem, not even a
single unreadable file, and that although the tapes are between 9 and
12 years old.
BTW, the disk where I restore the data to is an USB device connected
to my DSL router (Frtitz!Box 7270) connected to the PC by CAT5 cable
to simple PCI network card.
So there is obviously no conflict between ISA and PCI either.
But what could still be the problem for the timeout (Event-ID:9) while
cataloging a tape in the QIC.
I'm sure that the devices are all terminated properly.
Only no grounding is attached at the moment. Could this be a problem?
I tried 3 different SCSI cables. And it is difficult to get such
cables now...
Any ideas left?
On 15 Mai, 04:57, "Eric Gisin" <gi...@uniserve.com> wrote:
> It's an ISA bus-mastering device, which is not well supported by PCI-ISA bridges.
> You are seeing data corruption. There is a bus-speed setting: 10/8/... MB/s, maybe it's too high.
>
> <harald.henkel....@web.de> wrote in message
>
> news:b30f5697-3b4c-418f-9e12-6a6f20531a3a@x6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
> Ok. It was the BIOS. When I removed the 1542 from the PC, I also reset
> all the BIOS settings for the ISA-Bus etc.
> Not it goes boots quickly, but it seems there are still some problems.
> On booting, NT wanted to make a chkdsk and found most of D: (a FAT
> partition to be corrupt, moving clusters and deleting directories).
> The second drive (should be NTFS) I didn't let the chkdsk run.
> Filemanager sees the two drives, but couldn't access them.
> In the EventLog there are so many error messages regarding that disk,
> that it overflowed...
>
> I will check BIOS further, when I have time... :-)
Ok. I tweeked all switches in the BIOS which affect PCI and/or ISA
bus.
Nothing helped. I also tried my third SCSI cable... neither.
What I didn't tell you up to now is, I also have an external DAT tape
drive with a couple of tapes I want to restore, but, I planned to
spare up that one until after restoring the disks and the QIC tapes.
Now, yesterday I tried this one and what shall I say, it works just
fine, with "default" BIOS settings (of course those for the ISA bus
resources for the Adaptec not changed).
I just restores the 4th DAT tape without any problem, not even a
single unreadable file, and that although the tapes are between 9 and
12 years old.
BTW, the disk where I restore the data to is an USB device connected
to my DSL router (Frtitz!Box 7270) connected to the PC by CAT5 cable
to simple PCI network card.
So there is obviously no conflict between ISA and PCI either.
But what could still be the problem for the timeout (Event-ID:9) while
cataloging a tape in the QIC.
I'm sure that the devices are all terminated properly.
Only no grounding is attached at the moment. Could this be a problem?
I tried 3 different SCSI cables. And it is difficult to get such
cables now...
Any ideas left?
On 15 Mai, 04:57, "Eric Gisin" <gi...@uniserve.com> wrote:
> It's an ISA bus-mastering device, which is not well supported by PCI-ISA bridges.
> You are seeing data corruption. There is a bus-speed setting: 10/8/... MB/s, maybe it's too high.
>
> <harald.henkel....@web.de> wrote in message
>
> news:b30f5697-3b4c-418f-9e12-6a6f20531a3a@x6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
> Ok. It was the BIOS. When I removed the 1542 from the PC, I also reset
> all the BIOS settings for the ISA-Bus etc.
> Not it goes boots quickly, but it seems there are still some problems.
> On booting, NT wanted to make a chkdsk and found most of D: (a FAT
> partition to be corrupt, moving clusters and deleting directories).
> The second drive (should be NTFS) I didn't let the chkdsk run.
> Filemanager sees the two drives, but couldn't access them.
> In the EventLog there are so many error messages regarding that disk,
> that it overflowed...
>
> I will check BIOS further, when I have time... :-)
>
> Ok. I tweeked all switches in the BIOS which affect PCI and/or ISA
> bus.
> Nothing helped. I also tried my third SCSI cable... neither.
>
> What I didn't tell you up to now is, I also have an external DAT tape
> drive with a couple of tapes I want to restore, but, I planned to
> spare up that one until after restoring the disks and the QIC tapes.
>
> Now, yesterday I tried this one and what shall I say, it works just
> fine, with "default" BIOS settings (of course those for the ISA bus
> resources for the Adaptec not changed).
> I just restores the 4th DAT tape without any problem, not even a
> single unreadable file, and that although the tapes are between 9 and
> 12 years old.
> BTW, the disk where I restore the data to is an USB device connected
> to my DSL router (Frtitz!Box 7270) connected to the PC by CAT5 cable
> to simple PCI network card.
> So there is obviously no conflict between ISA and PCI either.
>
> But what could still be the problem for the timeout (Event-ID:9) while
> cataloging a tape in the QIC.
> I'm sure that the devices are all terminated properly.
> Only no grounding is attached at the moment. Could this be a problem?
> I tried 3 different SCSI cables. And it is difficult to get such
> cables now...
>
> Any ideas left?
1) The QIC tape drive is dirty and/or the belts & rollers are
worn/cracked or the head is magnetized, etc. Maybe a cleaning is in
order. You may need to replace belts and/or rollers. The 'rubber' (not
really rubber, but some synthetic replacement) goes 'bad' over time.
2) The QIC tapes are bad (stored too close to a strong magnetic field?).
3) Also, the internal SCSI disks may also be bad (you mentioned that you
were getting disk I/O errors). Again this could be anything from
'sticky' bearing lube (on some drives the spindle bearing lube can turn
to something more like glue over time) to mechaninal problems (were the
disks dropped or otherwise banged around durring storage?).
You DAT drive and tapes are (obviously) much newer and are therefore in
good condition, so everything worked. This suggests that the AHA-1542
card is working just fine (no real supprise here -- *silicon* does not
generally suffer from 'age', unlike machanical devices or magnetic media).
>
> On 15 Mai, 04:57, "Eric Gisin" <gi...@uniserve.com> wrote:
> > It's an ISA bus-mastering device, which is not well supported by PCI-ISA bridges.
> > You are seeing data corruption. There is a bus-speed setting: 10/8/... MB/s, maybe it's too high.
> >
> > <harald.henkel....@web.de> wrote in message
> >
> > news:b30f5697-3b4c-418f-9e12-6a6f20531a3a@x6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com...
> > Ok. It was the BIOS. When I removed the 1542 from the PC, I also reset
> > all the BIOS settings for the ISA-Bus etc.
> > Not it goes boots quickly, but it seems there are still some problems.
> > On booting, NT wanted to make a chkdsk and found most of D: (a FAT
> > partition to be corrupt, moving clusters and deleting directories).
> > The second drive (should be NTFS) I didn't let the chkdsk run.
> > Filemanager sees the two drives, but couldn't access them.
> > In the EventLog there are so many error messages regarding that disk,
> > that it overflowed...
> >
> > I will check BIOS further, when I have time... :-)
>
>
On 16 Mai, 14:45, Robert Heller <hel...@deepsoft.com> wrote:
> At Sat, 16 May 2009 04:23:52 -0700 (PDT) harald.henkel....@web.de wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Ok. I tweeked all switches in the BIOS which affect PCI and/or ISA
> > bus.
> > Nothing helped. I also tried my third SCSI cable... neither.
>
> > What I didn't tell you up to now is, I also have an external DAT tape
> > drive with a couple of tapes I want to restore, but, I planned to
> > spare up that one until after restoring the disks and the QIC tapes.
>
> > Now, yesterday I tried this one and what shall I say, it works just
> > fine, with "default" BIOS settings (of course those for the ISA bus
> > resources for the Adaptec not changed).
> > I just restores the 4th DAT tape without any problem, not even a
> > single unreadable file, and that although the tapes are between 9 and
> > 12 years old.
> > BTW, the disk where I restore the data to is an USB device connected
> > to my DSL router (Frtitz!Box 7270) connected to the PC by CAT5 cable
> > to simple PCI network card.
> > So there is obviously no conflict between ISA and PCI either.
>
> > But what could still be the problem for the timeout (Event-ID:9) while
> > cataloging a tape in the QIC.
> > I'm sure that the devices are all terminated properly.
> > Only no grounding is attached at the moment. Could this be a problem?
> > I tried 3 different SCSI cables. And it is difficult to get such
> > cables now...
>
> > Any ideas left?
>
> 1) The QIC tape drive is dirty and/or the belts & rollers are
> worn/cracked or the head is magnetized, etc. *Maybe a cleaning is in
> order. *You may need to replace belts and/or rollers. *The 'rubber' (not
> really rubber, but some synthetic replacement) goes 'bad' over time.
> 2) The QIC tapes are bad (stored too close to a strong magnetic field?).
> 3) Also, the internal SCSI disks may also be bad (you mentioned that you
> were getting disk I/O errors). *Again this could be anything from
> 'sticky' bearing lube (on some drives the spindle bearing lube can turn
> to something more like glue over time) to mechaninal problems (were the
> disks dropped or otherwise banged around durring storage?).
>
> You DAT drive and tapes are (obviously) much newer and are therefore in
> good condition, so everything worked. *This suggests that the AHA-1542
> card is working just fine (no real supprise here -- *silicon* does not
> generally suffer from 'age', unlike machanical devices or magnetic media)..
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 15 Mai, 04:57, "Eric Gisin" <gi...@uniserve.com> wrote:
> > > It's an ISA bus-mastering device, which is not well supported by PCI-ISA bridges.
> > > You are seeing data corruption. There is a bus-speed setting: 10/8/.... MB/s, maybe it's too high.
>
> > > <harald.henkel....@web.de> wrote in message
>
> > >news:b30f5697-3b4c-418f-9e12-6a6f20531a3a@x6g2000vbg.googlegroups.com....
> > > Ok. It was the BIOS. When I removed the 1542 from the PC, I also reset
> > > all the BIOS settings for the ISA-Bus etc.
Ok. What should I say...
Up until today, the first thing what I tried with a tape in the QIC
was always "Cataloging", lathough the first backup set was found.
Today I just tried to restore that first backup set and ... it works
(just restoring the second tape).
So probably all backup sets beond the first on each tape may be lost,
but there is some chance, that I allways only have one backup set on
the QICs anyway.
Of course I use NT4, but it might well be, that the QIC tapes were all
recorded with NT 3.5 (or even 3.1).
So, if also the QIC drive works, while the HDs do not, it might well
be, that the HDs are really lost due to HW failure.
But I think, that I backed those up anyway, before I removed them some
9 years ago, probably on the DAT tape.
> > > Not it goes boots quickly, but it seems there are still some problems..
> > > On booting, NT wanted to make a chkdsk and found most of D: (a FAT
> > > partition to be corrupt, moving clusters and deleting directories).
> > > The second drive (should be NTFS) I didn't let the chkdsk run.
> > > Filemanager sees the two drives, but couldn't access them.
> > > In the EventLog there are so many error messages regarding that disk,
> > > that it overflowed...
>
> > > I will check BIOS further, when I have time... :-)
>
> --
> Robert Heller * * * * * * -- 978-544-6933
> Deepwoods Software * * * *-- Download the Model Railroad Systemhttp://www.deepsoft.com/*-- Binaries for Linux and MS-Windows
> hel...@deepsoft.com * * * --http://www.deepsoft.com/ModelRailroadSystem/
In article <319548b2-5686-4a23-9f33-fad24681b45c@z7g2000vbh.googlegroups
..com>, harald.henkel.dah@web.de writes
>Up until today, the first thing what I tried with a tape in the QIC
>was always "Cataloging", lathough the first backup set was found.
>Today I just tried to restore that first backup set and ... it works
>(just restoring the second tape).
Have you tried retensioning the first tape (the one with the catalogue
on it)?
On 17 Mai, 22:28, Mike Tomlinson <m...@jasper.org.uk> wrote:
> In article <319548b2-5686-4a23-9f33-fad24681b...@z7g2000vbh.googlegroups
> .com>, harald.henkel....@web.de writes
>
> >Up until today, the first thing what I tried with a tape in the QIC
> >was always "Cataloging", lathough the first backup set was found.
> >Today I just tried to restore that first backup set and ... it works
> >(just restoring the second tape).
>
> Have you tried retensioning the first tape (the one with the catalogue
> on it)?
I think there might be some misunderstanding here.
Almost all of my problems are solved now.
I think I only have tapes with one or more backup sets on it, but not
backupset going over more than one tape.
I a logical drive was bigger than the tape, then I split it up
manually be de-selecting some directories and backing up the remaining
ones on a different tape.
The only problem is, that for some reason, NT doens't recognize all
record sets, when there are more than one on a QIC tape.
I think, I knew this already 10+ years ago - and because of this only
had only one record set per tape - but had forgotten it.
Yet, I found yesterday (after my previous posting) one tape with two
record sets, which NT Backup could catalogue - and restore - and one
tape where NT Backup told me, that the tape contains only already
catalogued record sets (i.e. the first), while on most tapes NT Backup
returns with an error at the end of the tape in the catalogueing
operation.
I already restored 6 out of 14 tapes.
One strange thing happend on two tapes. There NT Backup told me, that
the record sets are compressed and connot be catalogued or restored.
This is strange, because NT Backup doen't give me the option to
compress backups, as far as I can see - well I didn't try to make a
backup lately, so I didn't check the backup dialog, if there is such
an option.
But if there would be one, why shouldn't it be able to resore it?
I read somewhere, that NT Backup should have such an option, but only
for hardware compression, i.e. by the tape drive itself, if it
supports it.
Could it be, that NT Backup of NT 3.1 or 3.5 had that option and NT4
version cannot resore those tapes?
But it could also be, that these two (or more) tapes I recoreded
earlier under DOS/Windows 3.1 with the Backup program of "PC Tools" (I
think) which I used before to backup on 5 1/4" and 3 1/2" floppies.
I know, that I had the SCSI controller running under DOS (back then it
had a 486 mainborad)...
Ok.
I restored 11 tapes, but for 3 tapes NT Backup tells me, the (first)
set cannot be catalogued or restored, because it is compressed.
My assumption was, that those tapes are from Central Point PC Tools
Backup (i.e. CPBackup) (Version ?) made backups.
So I downloaded PC Tools Pro 9 (for free, it's amazing what software
you can find now for free), installed it on my DOS installation/
partition.
It recognized the still installed ASPI driver and the two tape drives.
But it tells me the 3 tapes are not created by CPBackup.
Is the tape format different for different versions of CPBackup
(6,7,8,9, Win1, Win2)?
Is there any chance it was still made using NT Backup?
There is also a little chance, that those tapes were written by some
simple Linux tools (probably not a backup program but something like
tar).
Yet, NT Backup shows me the backup set names/descriptions which are in
line with those I choose for the other 11 tapes.
Is it likely that NT Backup could show such descriptions, if the
backup set was made with some different software (CPBackup, tar)?
After all CPBackup shows me nothing!
Re: Adaptec 1542C with NT4 
Linear Mode
