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Old 10-01-2009, 10:58 AM
Guillaume Dargaud
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Default Vuescan and flatbed scanners

Hello all,
I've been using VueScan for a decade on several generations of slide
scanners and several generations of operating systems, but I'm thinking of
getting a flatbed scanner with a transparency back in order to scan some
very old large format transparents (glass, 6x9, etc).

Does VueScan also work with all/most flatbeds ? Are there brands to avoid /
recommend ? Note that I'm on Linux, if that makes a difference.
Thanks.
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http://www.gdargaud.net/


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Old 10-01-2009, 11:44 AM
Silicon Sam
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Default Re: Vuescan and flatbed scanners

On Oct 1, 4:58*am, "Guillaume Dargaud"
<use_the_form_on_my_contact_p...@www.gdargaud.ne t> wrote:
> Hello all,
> I've been using VueScan for a decade on several generations of slide
> scanners and several generations of operating systems, but I'm thinking of
> getting a flatbed scanner with a transparency back in order to scan some
> very old large format transparents (glass, 6x9, etc).
>
> Does VueScan also work with all/most flatbeds ? Are there brands to avoid /
> recommend ? Note that I'm on Linux, if that makes a difference.
> Thanks.
> --
> Guillaume Dargaudhttp://www.gdargaud.net/


If you've been using that long, you should know they have a list of
supported scanners on their site. I've used it since 20012, and right
now I have an Epson V500 that I use for flatbed stuff. I use a Nikon
V ED for slides.
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Old 10-01-2009, 05:52 PM
Joe
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Default Re: Vuescan and flatbed scanners

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 11:58:42 +0200, "Guillaume Dargaud"
<use_the_form_on_my_contact_page@www.gdargaud.ne t> wrote:

>Hello all,
>I've been using VueScan for a decade on several generations of slide
>scanners and several generations of operating systems, but I'm thinking of
>getting a flatbed scanner with a transparency back in order to scan some
>very old large format transparents (glass, 6x9, etc).
>
>Does VueScan also work with all/most flatbeds ? Are there brands to avoid /
>recommend ? Note that I'm on Linux, if that makes a difference.
>Thanks.


I use a Fujitsu fi-5220c and it is (sadly) not supported.
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Old 10-02-2009, 08:58 AM
jeff.underwood
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Default Re: Vuescan and flatbed scanners

On Oct 1, 9:58*am, "Guillaume Dargaud"
<use_the_form_on_my_contact_p...@www.gdargaud.ne t> wrote:
> Hello all,
> I've been using VueScan for a decade on several generations of slide
> scanners and several generations of operating systems, but I'm thinking of
> getting a flatbed scanner with a transparency back in order to scan some
> very old large format transparents (glass, 6x9, etc).
>
> Does VueScan also work with all/most flatbeds ? Are there brands to avoid /
> recommend ? Note that I'm on Linux, if that makes a difference.
> Thanks.
> --
> Guillaume Dargaudhttp://www.gdargaud.net/


I can recommend Epson's 4990 Photo scanner for slide scanning,
particularly larger formats. This unit has Digital ICE which I find
essential for old originals that are usually scratched and dusty.

It is supported by Vuescan although for preference I use ours with
SilverFast.

Jeff Underwood
www.1Scan.co.uk
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Old 10-02-2009, 07:05 PM
Robert Peirce
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Default Re: Vuescan and flatbed scanners

In article <ha1unh$ncm$1@ccpntc8.in2p3.fr>,
"Guillaume Dargaud" <use_the_form_on_my_contact_page@www.gdargaud.ne t>
wrote:

> Hello all,
> I've been using VueScan for a decade on several generations of slide
> scanners and several generations of operating systems, but I'm thinking of
> getting a flatbed scanner with a transparency back in order to scan some
> very old large format transparents (glass, 6x9, etc).
>
> Does VueScan also work with all/most flatbeds ? Are there brands to avoid /
> recommend ? Note that I'm on Linux, if that makes a difference.
> Thanks.


I have an Epson 2450 that I used to scan 4x5 negatives. I was very
happy with the results. Newer scanners ought to be better.

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bob AT peirce-family.com [Mac]
rbp AT cooksonpeirce.com [Office]

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Old 10-02-2009, 09:03 PM
Guillaume Dargaud
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Default Re: Vuescan and flatbed scanners

> If you've been using that long, you should know they have a list of
> supported scanners on their site. I've used it since 20012, and right
> now I have an Epson V500 that I use for flatbed stuff. I use a Nikon
> V ED for slides.


Well, I was also thinking of the V500, but then I saw that ICE doesn't
(didn't?) seem to work on Linux:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=650674
Anybody can confirm ?

Any other recommendation for transparent flatbed with ICE under
Linux/VueScan ?
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Guillaume Dargaud
http://www.gdargaud.net/


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Old 10-03-2009, 12:58 AM
Barry Watzman
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Default Re: Vuescan and flatbed scanners

Digital ICE should be independent of the OS.


Guillaume Dargaud wrote:
>> If you've been using that long, you should know they have a list of
>> supported scanners on their site. I've used it since 20012, and right
>> now I have an Epson V500 that I use for flatbed stuff. I use a Nikon
>> V ED for slides.

>
> Well, I was also thinking of the V500, but then I saw that ICE doesn't
> (didn't?) seem to work on Linux:
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=650674
> Anybody can confirm ?
>
> Any other recommendation for transparent flatbed with ICE under
> Linux/VueScan ?

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Old 10-03-2009, 02:45 AM
Silicon Sam
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Default Re: Vuescan and flatbed scanners

On Oct 2, 6:58*pm, Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOS...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
> Digital ICE should be independent of the OS.
>
>
>
> Guillaume Dargaud wrote:
> >> * If you've been using that long, you should know they have a list of
> >> supported scanners on their site. *I've used it since 20012, and right
> >> now I have an Epson V500 that I use for flatbed stuff. *I use a Nikon
> >> V ED for slides.

>
> > Well, I was also thinking of the V500, but then I saw that ICE doesn't
> > (didn't?) seem to work on Linux:
> >http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=650674
> > Anybody can confirm ?

>
> > Any other recommendation for transparent flatbed with ICE under
> > Linux/VueScan ?


Right, the way I understand it, the ICE is in the firmware code of
the scanner itself.... And ICE was developed here in Austin!
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Old 10-25-2009, 01:09 AM
Nigel Feltham
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Default Re: Vuescan and flatbed scanners

Silicon Sam wrote:

> On Oct 2, 6:58*pm, Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOS...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>> Digital ICE should be independent of the OS.
>>
>>
>>
>> Guillaume Dargaud wrote:
>> >> If you've been using that long, you should know they have a list of
>> >> supported scanners on their site. *I've used it since 20012, and right
>> >> now I have an Epson V500 that I use for flatbed stuff. *I use a Nikon
>> >> V ED for slides.

>>
>> > Well, I was also thinking of the V500, but then I saw that ICE doesn't
>> > (didn't?) seem to work on Linux:
>> >http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=650674
>> > Anybody can confirm ?

>>
>> > Any other recommendation for transparent flatbed with ICE under
>> > Linux/VueScan ?

>
> Right, the way I understand it, the ICE is in the firmware code of
> the scanner itself.... And ICE was developed here in Austin!


Not quite - the firmware of the scanner is coded to return 4 colour channels
(the normal RGB plus infrared) to the driver instead of the usual 3. It's
either the driver or the application (depending on OS) that does the actual
image correction based on the 4th colour channel.

The film (apart from Black&white or Kodachrome) is transparent to infrared
light but dust and scratches aren't so the extra colour channel is used as
a map of where dirt and scratches are and the software on the PC uses
interpolation to correct the damaged areas.

Generally only the manufacturer supplied drivers will support Digital ICE -
alternative drivers such as Vuescan use an independently written equivalent
which may produce better or worse results depending on scanner (Better with
my old Nikon LS-2000 as the original driver doesn't support the extra
tweaks applied to newer versions of ICE to handle kodachromes which are
handled fine with Vuescan).


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