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Old 09-26-2008, 08:48 AM
rodney
 
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Default Scan talk.

I am seeking a scanner that has software that will
identify say 30 images on the bed ( selected by the operator)
, and scan each individually at 600dpi.

Looking at Canon LiDE 600f it states.........

"Scan multiple images at once using the Multi-Scan function. Single-pass
Multi-Scan automatically aligns images and saves each image as a separate
file."

I am presuming it does just one pass, then isolates the images
and saves each as a file. (not what I am after)

If this is so, what should I be looking for? "multi marqee" perhaps?


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Old 09-26-2008, 12:59 PM
CSM1
 
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Default Re: Scan talk.

"rodney" <pookiethai@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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>I am seeking a scanner that has software that will
> identify say 30 images on the bed ( selected by the operator)
> , and scan each individually at 600dpi.
>
> Looking at Canon LiDE 600f it states.........
>
> "Scan multiple images at once using the Multi-Scan function. Single-pass
> Multi-Scan automatically aligns images and saves each image as a separate
> file."
>
> I am presuming it does just one pass, then isolates the images
> and saves each as a file. (not what I am after)
>


You presume incorrectly.

Cannon does a preview and identifies each image. Then Scans each one in turn
(Makes multiple scans). Saving the files as it goes.

The preview must be performed to identify each image and the position on the
bed.

> If this is so, what should I be looking for? "multi marqee" perhaps?
>
>

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Old 09-26-2008, 01:27 PM
rodney
 
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Default Re: Scan talk.


Cheers CSM1,
you solved one problem, and in doing so, created another.

Being as scanners have no purchase "safety net"
one needs to know exactly as they may perform.

I scan postage stamps, and my fear is now, whether Cannon's ID
would be sophisticated enough to identify the perforations
outside of the image proper.

I have used Epson 1670 perfection prior to this, and one could
"marquee" the desired area to be scanned around each stamp,
before kicking the scanner into action.
It performed well, it scanned approx 95,000 postage stamps before
the cold bulb began having issues.
Rod.


"CSM1"
> You presume incorrectly.
> Cannon does a preview and identifies each image. Then Scans each one in
> turn (Makes multiple scans). Saving the files as it goes.
> The preview must be performed to identify each image and the position on
> the bed.



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Old 09-26-2008, 09:44 PM
CSM1
 
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Default Re: Scan talk.

I don't have a Canon Lide 600, but I do have a Canon Canoscan 8400F.

As far as I know you can always re-position the marquee.

I would not recommend the Lide series of Canon scanners for scanning postage
stamps.

The Lide series are CIS sensors, CIS sensors don't have any depth of field.
I would choose one the CanoScan series instead.

Example of CIS vs CCD.
http://www.carlmcmillan.com/DOF/DepthofField.htm

My choice would be the CanoScan 8800F today.

You can download manuals for the scanner you are interested in from Canon.
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...upportIndexAct

Most of the manuals are in HTML format. Which is less than idea.

Your Epson 1670 perfection is a CCD sensor.

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"rodney" <pookiethai@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> Cheers CSM1,
> you solved one problem, and in doing so, created another.
>
> Being as scanners have no purchase "safety net"
> one needs to know exactly as they may perform.
>
> I scan postage stamps, and my fear is now, whether Cannon's ID
> would be sophisticated enough to identify the perforations
> outside of the image proper.
>
> I have used Epson 1670 perfection prior to this, and one could
> "marquee" the desired area to be scanned around each stamp,
> before kicking the scanner into action.
> It performed well, it scanned approx 95,000 postage stamps before
> the cold bulb began having issues.
> Rod.
>
>
> "CSM1"
>> You presume incorrectly.
>> Cannon does a preview and identifies each image. Then Scans each one in
>> turn (Makes multiple scans). Saving the files as it goes.
>> The preview must be performed to identify each image and the position on
>> the bed.

>
>



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Old 09-27-2008, 02:37 AM
Barry Watzman
 
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rodney wrote:
> I am seeking a scanner that has software that will
> identify say 30 images on the bed ( selected by the operator)
> , and scan each individually at 600dpi.
>
> Looking at Canon LiDE 600f it states.........
>
> "Scan multiple images at once using the Multi-Scan function. Single-pass
> Multi-Scan automatically aligns images and saves each image as a separate
> file."
>
> I am presuming it does just one pass, then isolates the images
> and saves each as a file. (not what I am after)
>
> If this is so, what should I be looking for? "multi marqee" perhaps?
>
>

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Old 09-27-2008, 03:39 AM
rodney
 
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Default Re: Scan talk.

Marvelous Carl
I was recomended an LiDE, so I appreciate your "heads up"
You saved me some money.
I'll be off and kick some tyres on the Canoscans.
Very much appreciated.
Rod.

"CSM1" <nomoremail@nomail.com> wrote in message
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>I don't have a Canon Lide 600, but I do have a Canon Canoscan 8400F.
>
> As far as I know you can always re-position the marquee.
>
> I would not recommend the Lide series of Canon scanners for scanning
> postage stamps.
>
> The Lide series are CIS sensors, CIS sensors don't have any depth of
> field.
> I would choose one the CanoScan series instead.
>
> Example of CIS vs CCD.
> http://www.carlmcmillan.com/DOF/DepthofField.htm
>
> My choice would be the CanoScan 8800F today.
>
> You can download manuals for the scanner you are interested in from Canon.
> http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...upportIndexAct
>
> Most of the manuals are in HTML format. Which is less than idea.
>
> Your Epson 1670 perfection is a CCD sensor.
>
> --
> CSM1
> http://www.carlmcmillan.com
> --
> "rodney" <pookiethai@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
> news:48dcd520$0$70628$c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net...
>>
>> Cheers CSM1,
>> you solved one problem, and in doing so, created another.
>>
>> Being as scanners have no purchase "safety net"
>> one needs to know exactly as they may perform.
>>
>> I scan postage stamps, and my fear is now, whether Cannon's ID
>> would be sophisticated enough to identify the perforations
>> outside of the image proper.
>>
>> I have used Epson 1670 perfection prior to this, and one could
>> "marquee" the desired area to be scanned around each stamp,
>> before kicking the scanner into action.
>> It performed well, it scanned approx 95,000 postage stamps before
>> the cold bulb began having issues.
>> Rod.
>>
>>
>> "CSM1"
>>> You presume incorrectly.
>>> Cannon does a preview and identifies each image. Then Scans each one in
>>> turn (Makes multiple scans). Saving the files as it goes.
>>> The preview must be performed to identify each image and the position on
>>> the bed.

>>
>>

>
>



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Old 09-27-2008, 07:10 PM
Bennett Price
 
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Default Re: Scan talk.

CSM1 wrote:
> I don't have a Canon Lide 600, but I do have a Canon Canoscan 8400F.
>
> As far as I know you can always re-position the marquee.
>
> I would not recommend the Lide series of Canon scanners for scanning postage
> stamps.
>
> The Lide series are CIS sensors, CIS sensors don't have any depth of field.
> I would choose one the CanoScan series instead.
>
> Example of CIS vs CCD.
> http://www.carlmcmillan.com/DOF/DepthofField.htm
>
> My choice would be the CanoScan 8800F today.
>
> You can download manuals for the scanner you are interested in from Canon.
> http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...upportIndexAct
>
> Most of the manuals are in HTML format. Which is less than idea.
>
> Your Epson 1670 perfection is a CCD sensor.
>

Why is depth of field a need for postage stamps? What could be flatter?
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Old 09-28-2008, 03:38 AM
CSM1
 
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Default Re: Scan talk.

www.carlmcmillan.com
--
"Bennett Price" <bennett.price@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:bcedndGTOtKX6kPVnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> CSM1 wrote:
>> I don't have a Canon Lide 600, but I do have a Canon Canoscan 8400F.
>>
>> As far as I know you can always re-position the marquee.
>>
>> I would not recommend the Lide series of Canon scanners for scanning
>> postage stamps.
>>
>> The Lide series are CIS sensors, CIS sensors don't have any depth of
>> field.
>> I would choose one the CanoScan series instead.
>>
>> Example of CIS vs CCD.
>> http://www.carlmcmillan.com/DOF/DepthofField.htm
>>
>> My choice would be the CanoScan 8800F today.
>>
>> You can download manuals for the scanner you are interested in from
>> Canon.
>> http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...upportIndexAct
>>
>> Most of the manuals are in HTML format. Which is less than idea.
>>
>> Your Epson 1670 perfection is a CCD sensor.
>>

> Why is depth of field a need for postage stamps? What could be flatter?


You may not need great depth of field for postage stamps.

But none-the-less CCD sensors have better images that are correctly focused
and they have a lens in the system.

CIS sensors don't have any optical components at all.
C stands for Contact. I is Image, S is Sensor.

Contact as in touching.
Since in a scanner, the sensor is not actually touching the object (it is
separated by a layer of glass), the focus is not as sharp.

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Old 09-28-2008, 04:13 AM
rodney
 
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Default Re: Scan talk.


"Bennett Price" >>
> Why is depth of field a need for postage stamps? What could be flatter?


I would echo Carl's comments,
we have this thing in stamp collecting called "fly specking"
I like my stamps so I can see the individual hairs on the
perforations.
Hence Carl's advice was pertinent and saved me purchasing
a model I would have been unhappy with.


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Old 09-29-2008, 02:55 PM
GSalisbury
 
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Default Re: Scan talk.


"CSM1" <nomoremail@nomail.com> wrote in message
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| www.carlmcmillan.com
| --
| "Bennett Price" <bennett.price@comcast.net> wrote in message
| news:bcedndGTOtKX6kPVnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
| > CSM1 wrote:
| >> I don't have a Canon Lide 600, but I do have a Canon Canoscan 8400F.
| >>
| >> As far as I know you can always re-position the marquee.
| >>
| >> I would not recommend the Lide series of Canon scanners for scanning
| >> postage stamps.
| >>
| >> The Lide series are CIS sensors, CIS sensors don't have any depth of
| >> field.
| >> I would choose one the CanoScan series instead.
| >>
| >> Example of CIS vs CCD.
| >> http://www.carlmcmillan.com/DOF/DepthofField.htm
| >>
| >> My choice would be the CanoScan 8800F today.
| >>
| >> You can download manuals for the scanner you are interested in from
| >> Canon.
| >> http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...upportIndexAct
| >>
| >> Most of the manuals are in HTML format. Which is less than idea.
| >>
| >> Your Epson 1670 perfection is a CCD sensor.
| >>
| > Why is depth of field a need for postage stamps? What could be flatter?
|
| You may not need great depth of field for postage stamps.
|
| But none-the-less CCD sensors have better images that are correctly
focused
| and they have a lens in the system.
|
| CIS sensors don't have any optical components at all.
| C stands for Contact. I is Image, S is Sensor.
|
| Contact as in touching.
| Since in a scanner, the sensor is not actually touching the object (it is
| separated by a layer of glass), the focus is not as sharp.
|
| --
| CSM1
| http://
|
This depth of field aspect is interesting.
Not something I would have given any consideration as I mostly scan flat
document type things.
I appreciate [now] how that might be associated with a better scanner or
potentially produce better scans.
Is the "depth" typically something adjustable as with the aperture in an SLR
camera?
Thx.
Geo.


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