Subject says it. The underside of the glass has developed a cloudy film
and I'd like to clean it. Epson is, of course, no help, "Do not
disassemble the scanner," is the advice in the manual.
Vince Heuring wrote:
>
> Subject says it. The underside of the glass has developed a cloudy film
> and I'd like to clean it. Epson is, of course, no help, "Do not
> disassemble the scanner," is the advice in the manual.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> TIA, Vince
>
> --
> Vince Heuring To email, remove the Vince.
First you need a hammer and a flat bladed screwdriver. Place
screwdriver head between edge of glass and casing and strike with some
force. Now you need a car or taxi to go buy a new one :O)
"Vince Heuring" <VinceHeuring@dimensional.com> wrote in message
news:240520081004194280%VinceHeuring@dimensional.c om...
>
> Subject says it. The underside of the glass has developed a cloudy film
> and I'd like to clean it. Epson is, of course, no help, "Do not
> disassemble the scanner," is the advice in the manual.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> TIA, Vince
>
> --
> Vince Heuring To email, remove the Vince.
Google is your friend: I used the search: "how to clean glass epson scanner"
without quotes.
In article <ogZZj.1798$jI5.1224@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com>, CSM1
<nomoremail@nomail.com> wrote:
Thanks, but I had exhausted that avenue before my post. The 2450 is
sufficiently different that the directions were no help. Further down
in the yahoo groups thread the guy admitted that he broke the circuit
board that connects the front panel switches.
I'm afraid that jocular though it was, Paul Heslop's advice a couple
posts back to take a hammer to it may be the best way.
> "Vince Heuring" <VinceHeuring@dimensional.com> wrote in message
> news:240520081004194280%VinceHeuring@dimensional.c om...
> >
> > Subject says it. The underside of the glass has developed a cloudy film
> > and I'd like to clean it. Epson is, of course, no help, "Do not
> > disassemble the scanner," is the advice in the manual.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > TIA, Vince
> >
> > --
> > Vince Heuring To email, remove the Vince.
>
> Google is your friend: I used the search: "how to clean glass epson scanner"
> without quotes.
>
> This is a link to cleaning a epson 2450, maybe your scanner is similar.
> http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00BKMV
>
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/epson3200/
Vince Heuring wrote:
>
> In article <ogZZj.1798$jI5.1224@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com>, CSM1
> <nomoremail@nomail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks, but I had exhausted that avenue before my post. The 2450 is
> sufficiently different that the directions were no help. Further down
> in the yahoo groups thread the guy admitted that he broke the circuit
> board that connects the front panel switches.
>
> I'm afraid that jocular though it was, Paul Heslop's advice a couple
> posts back to take a hammer to it may be the best way.
who said I was joking?
:O)
seriously though, it is painful how they build these things sometimes.
Yeah, I know they like to make money out of us with repairs etc but it
really is a bind.
The one common thing is the screws are hidden in various places.
Look in the well for the hinges and look at pieces of plastic parts that can
be pulled off.
Some screws are hidden behind rubber plugs, maybe even the rubber feet.
--
CSM1 http://www.carlmcmillan.com
--
"Vince Heuring" <heuring@dim.com> wrote in message
news:240520081607402365%heuring@dim.com...
> In article <ogZZj.1798$jI5.1224@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com>, CSM1
> <nomoremail@nomail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks, but I had exhausted that avenue before my post. The 2450 is
> sufficiently different that the directions were no help. Further down
> in the yahoo groups thread the guy admitted that he broke the circuit
> board that connects the front panel switches.
>
> I'm afraid that jocular though it was, Paul Heslop's advice a couple
> posts back to take a hammer to it may be the best way.
>
>> "Vince Heuring" <VinceHeuring@dimensional.com> wrote in message
>> news:240520081004194280%VinceHeuring@dimensional.c om...
>> >
>> > Subject says it. The underside of the glass has developed a cloudy film
>> > and I'd like to clean it. Epson is, of course, no help, "Do not
>> > disassemble the scanner," is the advice in the manual.
>> >
>> > Any ideas?
>> >
>> > TIA, Vince
>> >
>> > --
>> > Vince Heuring To email, remove the Vince.
>>
>> Google is your friend: I used the search: "how to clean glass epson
>> scanner"
>> without quotes.
>>
>> This is a link to cleaning a epson 2450, maybe your scanner is similar.
>> http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00BKMV
>>
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/epson3200/
"Talker" <Talker@thegood.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 25 May 2008 14:32:07 -0500, "CSM1" <nomoremail@nomail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I have one more suggestion.
>>
>>Look at my web pages on cleaning a Canon 8400F and look at the pages on
>>taking apart other canon scanners.
>>
>>http://www.carlmcmillan.com/CanonScanner/Canon.htm
>>
>>http://www.carlmcmillan.com/Canon9950/Canon9950.htm
>>
>>http://www.carlmcmillan.com/Canon5000F/Canon5000f.htm
>>
>>The one common thing is the screws are hidden in various places.
>>
>>Look in the well for the hinges and look at pieces of plastic parts that
>>can
>>be pulled off.
>>Some screws are hidden behind rubber plugs, maybe even the rubber feet.
>>
>>
>>--
>>CSM1
>>http://www.carlmcmillan.com
>
>
> Yes, CSM1 is correct. I always look at it like this...they had
> to put it together somehow, and to do that they needed to join two
> different sides, so whatever they did to get it together should be
> able to be undone to get it apart.
> That's one of the things that bothers me about reviews of
> equipment like scanners. Sure, they'll tell you how fast it is and
> how good the scanner reproduces the original, but what they don't tell
> you it how easy it is to service. They also don't tell you how well
> it's made. I'd like to know if it uses bearings in the motor, and if
> so, are they plastic or steel? How about the gears that move the
> sensor, are they plastic or steel? I'd pay extra for a scanner that
> has steel bearings and steel gears but you can never find out that
> type of info. My only recourse is to buy the higher end scanners and
> hope for the best.
>
> Talker
Hello, Talker, long time since I saw you in the groups.
Most scanners use nylon gears and neoprene belts.
Motors are sleeve bearings.
I suppose if you bought one of the rugged commercial jobs for thousands of
dollars you may find better parts.
Remember that scanners (even the cheap ones) are far better now than 3 to 10
years ago.
Yes, CSM1 is correct. I always look at it like this...they had
to put it together somehow, and to do that they needed to join two
different sides, so whatever they did to get it together should be
able to be undone to get it apart.
That's one of the things that bothers me about reviews of
equipment like scanners. Sure, they'll tell you how fast it is and
how good the scanner reproduces the original, but what they don't tell
you it how easy it is to service. They also don't tell you how well
it's made. I'd like to know if it uses bearings in the motor, and if
so, are they plastic or steel? How about the gears that move the
sensor, are they plastic or steel? I'd pay extra for a scanner that
has steel bearings and steel gears but you can never find out that
type of info. My only recourse is to buy the higher end scanners and
hope for the best.
On Sun, 25 May 2008 18:03:43 -0500, "CSM1" <nomoremail@nomail.com>
wrote:
>"Talker" <Talker@thegood.com> wrote in message
>news:4tuj34lp774tden3m0eon9jphv1vsnm3qt@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sun, 25 May 2008 14:32:07 -0500, "CSM1" <nomoremail@nomail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I have one more suggestion.
>>>
>>>Look at my web pages on cleaning a Canon 8400F and look at the pages on
>>>taking apart other canon scanners.
>>>
>>>http://www.carlmcmillan.com/CanonScanner/Canon.htm
>>>
>>>http://www.carlmcmillan.com/Canon9950/Canon9950.htm
>>>
>>>http://www.carlmcmillan.com/Canon5000F/Canon5000f.htm
>>>
>>>The one common thing is the screws are hidden in various places.
>>>
>>>Look in the well for the hinges and look at pieces of plastic parts that
>>>can
>>>be pulled off.
>>>Some screws are hidden behind rubber plugs, maybe even the rubber feet.
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>CSM1
>>>http://www.carlmcmillan.com
>>
>>
>> Yes, CSM1 is correct. I always look at it like this...they had
>> to put it together somehow, and to do that they needed to join two
>> different sides, so whatever they did to get it together should be
>> able to be undone to get it apart.
>> That's one of the things that bothers me about reviews of
>> equipment like scanners. Sure, they'll tell you how fast it is and
>> how good the scanner reproduces the original, but what they don't tell
>> you it how easy it is to service. They also don't tell you how well
>> it's made. I'd like to know if it uses bearings in the motor, and if
>> so, are they plastic or steel? How about the gears that move the
>> sensor, are they plastic or steel? I'd pay extra for a scanner that
>> has steel bearings and steel gears but you can never find out that
>> type of info. My only recourse is to buy the higher end scanners and
>> hope for the best.
>>
>> Talker
>
>Hello, Talker, long time since I saw you in the groups.
>
>Most scanners use nylon gears and neoprene belts.
>Motors are sleeve bearings.
>
>I suppose if you bought one of the rugged commercial jobs for thousands of
>dollars you may find better parts.
>
>Remember that scanners (even the cheap ones) are far better now than 3 to 10
>years ago.
>
>--
>CSM1
>http://www.carlmcmillan.com
Hey there CSM1! I stop into this group everyday to see what's
posted. There's not much I can usually add to the comments posted so
I don't usually post anything.<g>
My first flatbed was a MicroTek ScanMaker III. I got it on sale
for $1,200 (marked down from $2,000). That scanner was built like a
tank, but it was SCSI connect and it was slow. I still have it and
it's in perfect condition, but it won't work with WinXP, so I bought
another MicroTek....the ScanMaker 6800. I used that for a while and
had problems, so I switched to my Canon 9950F. (It turns out the
problem was in my computer, so the MicroTek is okay.)
The thing is, like I mentioned above, that MicroTek ScanMaker III
was really built. My Canon is a lot faster, has better optics, and a
better sensor, but everything is made of plastic. If they offered a
version of it that had steel gears and bearings, I'd have bought that,
but these are things they don't tell you in the specs when you buy it.
I guess you're right....you'd have to buy a commercial scanner in
order to get a better built machine.
"Talker" <Talker@thegood.com> wrote in message
news:fmkm34pr6m3phnsja6ejvl9jh60h3i3ifj@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 25 May 2008 18:03:43 -0500, "CSM1" <nomoremail@nomail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"Talker" <Talker@thegood.com> wrote in message
>>news:4tuj34lp774tden3m0eon9jphv1vsnm3qt@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Sun, 25 May 2008 14:32:07 -0500, "CSM1" <nomoremail@nomail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have one more suggestion.
>>>>
>>>>Look at my web pages on cleaning a Canon 8400F and look at the pages on
>>>>taking apart other canon scanners.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.carlmcmillan.com/CanonScanner/Canon.htm
>>>>
>>>>http://www.carlmcmillan.com/Canon9950/Canon9950.htm
>>>>
>>>>http://www.carlmcmillan.com/Canon5000F/Canon5000f.htm
>>>>
>>>>The one common thing is the screws are hidden in various places.
>>>>
>>>>Look in the well for the hinges and look at pieces of plastic parts that
>>>>can
>>>>be pulled off.
>>>>Some screws are hidden behind rubber plugs, maybe even the rubber feet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>CSM1
>>>>http://www.carlmcmillan.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, CSM1 is correct. I always look at it like this...they had
>>> to put it together somehow, and to do that they needed to join two
>>> different sides, so whatever they did to get it together should be
>>> able to be undone to get it apart.
>>> That's one of the things that bothers me about reviews of
>>> equipment like scanners. Sure, they'll tell you how fast it is and
>>> how good the scanner reproduces the original, but what they don't tell
>>> you it how easy it is to service. They also don't tell you how well
>>> it's made. I'd like to know if it uses bearings in the motor, and if
>>> so, are they plastic or steel? How about the gears that move the
>>> sensor, are they plastic or steel? I'd pay extra for a scanner that
>>> has steel bearings and steel gears but you can never find out that
>>> type of info. My only recourse is to buy the higher end scanners and
>>> hope for the best.
>>>
>>> Talker
>>
>>Hello, Talker, long time since I saw you in the groups.
>>
>>Most scanners use nylon gears and neoprene belts.
>>Motors are sleeve bearings.
>>
>>I suppose if you bought one of the rugged commercial jobs for thousands of
>>dollars you may find better parts.
>>
>>Remember that scanners (even the cheap ones) are far better now than 3 to
>>10
>>years ago.
>>
>>--
>>CSM1
>>http://www.carlmcmillan.com
>
>
> Hey there CSM1! I stop into this group everyday to see what's
> posted. There's not much I can usually add to the comments posted so
> I don't usually post anything.<g>
> My first flatbed was a MicroTek ScanMaker III. I got it on sale
> for $1,200 (marked down from $2,000). That scanner was built like a
> tank, but it was SCSI connect and it was slow. I still have it and
> it's in perfect condition, but it won't work with WinXP, so I bought
> another MicroTek....the ScanMaker 6800. I used that for a while and
> had problems, so I switched to my Canon 9950F. (It turns out the
> problem was in my computer, so the MicroTek is okay.)
> The thing is, like I mentioned above, that MicroTek ScanMaker III
> was really built. My Canon is a lot faster, has better optics, and a
> better sensor, but everything is made of plastic. If they offered a
> version of it that had steel gears and bearings, I'd have bought that,
> but these are things they don't tell you in the specs when you buy it.
> I guess you're right....you'd have to buy a commercial scanner in
> order to get a better built machine.
>
> Talker
One thing you can be sure of, the Canon does a better job, so what, if it is
mostly plastic?
You use it until it dies, then give it a nice funeral.
I also still have an old SCSI scanner, I keep it because it can scan up to a
5" X 7" transparency. The max size transparency the Canon 8400F will do is
120 film.
It is a little hard to install a SCSI driver in Windows XP, but it can be
done.
Mostly because the old scanners don't have updated software.
How to disassemble Epson 2580 
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