Refill-friendly multi-function printer recommendations?

I'm looking to purchase either an ink-jet or laser multi-function machine (printer, scanner, fax, copier). I'm looking for recommendations on machines where quality toner or ink refills are readily available. I prefer machines where the toner or ink levels can be reset. Thank you

Bernie Bernbaum wrote:

I'm looking to purchase either an ink-jet or laser multi-function machine (printer, scanner, fax, copier).  I'm looking for recommendations on machines where quality toner or ink refills are readily available.  I prefer machines where the toner or ink levels can be reset.  Thank you


Get a laser.  There is no quality ink for an inkjet other than what is produced by the OEM save for Pantone.  And that is produced only for Epson printers and may even cost more.

Aftermarketink@gmail.com wrote:
> Try to get a older Canon like a IP4000...easy to refill and
> compatibles are also available.
>
That is poor advice. I have an IP4000. It is a good printer but the
IP4500 is a better printer. The technology is newer and the ink
formulation is newer resulting in a longer lasting print. You also have
the advantage of leds on the carts that let you know when to change the
ink but they do cost a couple of dollars more.
> There is a post somewhere on this forum that has a link to a Canon's
> management person
> stating that generic black ink is as good as thier own OEM ink.
It really is not.
> I
> don't use generic ink...just ink specifically designed for this
> printer by a third party..
Any third party or NON CANON INK is generic ink.
> .and I would agree with Canon but the third
> party ink I use is even better than Canon's own ink.
>
Canon does not say that.

<Aftermarketink@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Try to get a older Canon like a IP4000...easy to refill and
> compatibles are also available.
>
> There is a post somewhere on this forum that has a link to a Canon's
> management person
> stating that generic black ink is as good as thier own OEM ink. I
> don't use generic ink...just ink specifically designed for this
> printer by a third party...and I would agree with Canon but the third
> party ink I use is even better than Canon's own ink.

May I ask what that third party is? Thx

Aftermarketink@gmail.com wrote:
> I would stay away from IP4500 as I use to own one and there is no
> noticeable difference in the print quality.
The Canon IP4500 is the best standard format printer today and is the
best value. The newer formulated Canon ink has the best fade resistance
of all of their previous models.
> Also the cartridges are
> chipped
Not a problem, they work find.
> and the only way so far to refill and reset the chip is
> through a refill store.
Not a biggie if you want the best photo quality with the least risk of
fading. And if you do not print much the OEM ink presents the lowest
risk of printhead clogging.
> I sold the printer. The IP4000 prints great
> and even better with aftermarket ink...
Not true. I have an IP4000 using Canon ink and the results are very
good. I think that the IP4500 is better. The visual difference in
print quality may not always be apparent but the new ink is more fade
resistent.
> Canon stated that any generic
> ink will do..
No they did not. Look at their website.
> .I use only aftermrket ink designed for this
> printer...the black is out of this world.
>
It certainly out of this world and does not work well on earth.
> When I bought the printer I? was having a problem with the OEM pigment
> black for text printing.
My IP4000 never had a problem.
> I changed papers to HP colorlok but was still
> having problems with highlighters. The ink would still smudge. When I
> read a artical in the paper a Canon rep said any generic ink would
> print black as good as Canon's OEM...I figuard that I would try a
> black designed for Canon's pigment black. It worked no more smudging
>
It dries so fast that it will clog the printhead if you do not print a
great deal.

Aftermarketink@gmail.com wrote:
> The best standard format printer is the HP K5400.
The best standard format printer for printing photos is the Canon
IP4500. HP Officejets print text better.
> Much better ink,
> faster and mort reliability than the Canon IP4500 and cheaper to
> operate.
Not true. I use both HP and Canon and Canon costs less to operate. As
far as durability they are both fine.
> The aftermarket ink for this printer has been resently
> introduced and from what I seen is excellent.
>
No generic ink is any good.
> But if you can get a Canon IP4000
I would rather have an IP4500 and I own an IP4000. It is a great
printer but if you get another you might as well get the latest technology.
> even used it's still a good
> value...and a huge saving
There is no ink savings but you may spend less. You see the ink costs
less but the value is way less. Greater propensity to fade, lower
quality photos and a better chance to clog your printhead.
> if you use aftermarket ink...Canon has said
> that any generic ink will do..
They never said that. Go to their website and find it. Maybe this
poster is in the ink business. Sounds like it to me.
> .I choose to believe Canon over anyone
> on this forum.
>

Aftermarketink@gmail.com wrote:
> I would recommend the HP K5400 if your not able to source a IP4000.
>
> The IP4000 is a very good printer for text and photos and very simular
> to the IP4500.
One difference is the superior Canon ink that has greater fade
resistance. Canon officially says that no ink can compare. It seems
that anyone contradicting this is a liar.
> Using a cheap generic ink should produce the same
> results...accourding to a Canon Rep.
>
> The K5400 is great at printing text and photos that will out last any
> of the above Canons.
HP makes a decent printer. I have one. However, all of the magazines
(PC World and PC Magazine) make Canon the editors choice. I am sure
that there are jerky ink peddlers trying to make enough for MacDonalds
dollar menu would have a different opinion.
> If you use a quality aftermarket in made for this
> printer your resualts will still surpass the above Canons.
Impossible

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Aftermarketink@gmail.com wrote:
> People are very jeolous that HP dominates the peoples choice...but
> that's ok...
>
> snip
I think he goes he he he

Aftermarketink@gmail.com wrote:
> The printheads are replaceable and cost about $60.00 for black and
> yellow. This is from HP website.
>
> As far as ink you can use OCP ink in this printer.
>
As far ink the best place to buy is Costco but if you do not have one
near you than try Staples. Sometimes they have coupons for 10% off.

another crankie to the killfile

Aftermarketink@gmail.com wrote:

The Costco by me only sells generic ink...which only works in Canons like the IP4000 or IP4500. For an HP I would suggest a aftermarket ink that is made for your printer. Not all Staples sells ink...just cartridges...check you local Staples for a kit. You should be able to buy Canon generic cartridges at Staples...which are as good as Canons ink.