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Old 09-12-2007, 02:26 PM
philc
 
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Default Printer consumables

Am looking to buy my first printer, and want to research consumable
costs, as they seem to vary widely. what are the cheapest consumables
suppliers in the UK?
Also are there any comparison tables showing cost per print for a wide
range of printers (ink jet and die-sub)?
I dont intend on spending more than £100, not sure if i want ink-jet
or die-sub. i understand i'll be more limited on size with die-sub,
but as i may not be using it frequently i may - from what i've read -
waste ink on an ink-jet by using them infrequently. I am also
surprised that the costs from what ive seen so far are approx 3-4x the
cost of photobox for 6x4's.

TIA

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Old 09-12-2007, 03:03 PM
Don Stauffer in Minnesota
 
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Default Re: Printer consumables

On Sep 12, 8:26 am, philc <philcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Am looking to buy my first printer, and want to research consumable
> costs, as they seem to vary widely. what are the cheapest consumables
> suppliers in the UK?
> Also are there any comparison tables showing cost per print for a wide
> range of printers (ink jet and die-sub)?
> I dont intend on spending more than £100, not sure if i want ink-jet
> or die-sub. i understand i'll be more limited on size with die-sub,
> but as i may not be using it frequently i may - from what i've read -
> waste ink on an ink-jet by using them infrequently. I am also
> surprised that the costs from what ive seen so far are approx 3-4x the
> cost of photobox for 6x4's.
>
> TIA


Many PC magazines, in their product reviews and comparisions, list ink
costs on printers. Also, Consumer Reports in their ratings of
printers, usually includes this info.

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Old 09-12-2007, 05:38 PM
ray
 
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Default Re: Printer consumables

On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 06:26:20 -0700, philc wrote:

> Am looking to buy my first printer, and want to research consumable
> costs, as they seem to vary widely. what are the cheapest consumables
> suppliers in the UK?


The new Kodak all-in-one units report a consummables cost 1/2 the
competition.

> Also are there any comparison tables showing cost per print for a wide
> range of printers (ink jet and die-sub)?
> I dont intend on spending more than £100, not sure if i want ink-jet
> or die-sub. i understand i'll be more limited on size with die-sub,
> but as i may not be using it frequently i may - from what i've read -
> waste ink on an ink-jet by using them infrequently. I am also
> surprised that the costs from what ive seen so far are approx 3-4x the
> cost of photobox for 6x4's.
>
> TIA


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Old 09-12-2007, 05:46 PM
Rich
 
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Default Re: Printer consumables

On Sep 12, 9:26 am, philc <philcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Am looking to buy my first printer, and want to research consumable
> costs, as they seem to vary widely. what are the cheapest consumables
> suppliers in the UK?
> Also are there any comparison tables showing cost per print for a wide
> range of printers (ink jet and die-sub)?
> I dont intend on spending more than £100, not sure if i want ink-jet
> or die-sub. i understand i'll be more limited on size with die-sub,
> but as i may not be using it frequently i may - from what i've read -
> waste ink on an ink-jet by using them infrequently. I am also
> surprised that the costs from what ive seen so far are approx 3-4x the
> cost of photobox for 6x4's.
>
> TIA


Average cost of print from a mid-priced inkjet (for the ink) is around
$ 2.50- $ 3.00 per image for an 8 x 10. I've seen cartidges run out
after doing 15 sheets.
The paper cost is about $1.00 sheet. So, when there are printers out
there who charge $2.00 each for printing an 8 x 10. So home printing
runs almost double that of getting it done by an outside source.

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Old 09-12-2007, 06:28 PM
ray
 
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Default Re: Printer consumables

On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:46:16 -0700, Rich wrote:

> On Sep 12, 9:26 am, philc <philcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Am looking to buy my first printer, and want to research consumable
>> costs, as they seem to vary widely. what are the cheapest consumables
>> suppliers in the UK?
>> Also are there any comparison tables showing cost per print for a wide
>> range of printers (ink jet and die-sub)?
>> I dont intend on spending more than £100, not sure if i want ink-jet
>> or die-sub. i understand i'll be more limited on size with die-sub,
>> but as i may not be using it frequently i may - from what i've read -
>> waste ink on an ink-jet by using them infrequently. I am also
>> surprised that the costs from what ive seen so far are approx 3-4x the
>> cost of photobox for 6x4's.
>>
>> TIA

>
> Average cost of print from a mid-priced inkjet (for the ink) is around
> $ 2.50- $ 3.00 per image for an 8 x 10. I've seen cartidges run out
> after doing 15 sheets.
> The paper cost is about $1.00 sheet. So, when there are printers out
> there who charge $2.00 each for printing an 8 x 10. So home printing
> runs almost double that of getting it done by an outside source.


There is also no reason to believe that you can do a better job with a
$300 inkjet printer that the printing services can do with a machine which
cost several thousand dollars.

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Old 09-13-2007, 02:26 AM
Ron Hunter
 
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Default Re: Printer consumables

philc wrote:
> Am looking to buy my first printer, and want to research consumable
> costs, as they seem to vary widely. what are the cheapest consumables
> suppliers in the UK?
> Also are there any comparison tables showing cost per print for a wide
> range of printers (ink jet and die-sub)?
> I dont intend on spending more than £100, not sure if i want ink-jet
> or die-sub. i understand i'll be more limited on size with die-sub,
> but as i may not be using it frequently i may - from what i've read -
> waste ink on an ink-jet by using them infrequently. I am also
> surprised that the costs from what ive seen so far are approx 3-4x the
> cost of photobox for 6x4's.
>
> TIA
>


AT the moment, the lowest cost for consumables is held by the new Kodak
printers. The inks are pigment inks, which will probably last as long
as any prints you buy at a photoprinter.
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Old 09-13-2007, 02:27 AM
Ron Hunter
 
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Default Re: Printer consumables

ray wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:46:16 -0700, Rich wrote:
>
>> On Sep 12, 9:26 am, philc <philcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Am looking to buy my first printer, and want to research consumable
>>> costs, as they seem to vary widely. what are the cheapest consumables
>>> suppliers in the UK?
>>> Also are there any comparison tables showing cost per print for a wide
>>> range of printers (ink jet and die-sub)?
>>> I dont intend on spending more than £100, not sure if i want ink-jet
>>> or die-sub. i understand i'll be more limited on size with die-sub,
>>> but as i may not be using it frequently i may - from what i've read -
>>> waste ink on an ink-jet by using them infrequently. I am also
>>> surprised that the costs from what ive seen so far are approx 3-4x the
>>> cost of photobox for 6x4's.
>>>
>>> TIA

>> Average cost of print from a mid-priced inkjet (for the ink) is around
>> $ 2.50- $ 3.00 per image for an 8 x 10. I've seen cartidges run out
>> after doing 15 sheets.
>> The paper cost is about $1.00 sheet. So, when there are printers out
>> there who charge $2.00 each for printing an 8 x 10. So home printing
>> runs almost double that of getting it done by an outside source.

>
> There is also no reason to believe that you can do a better job with a
> $300 inkjet printer that the printing services can do with a machine which
> cost several thousand dollars.
>


True, but I can do it faster, and with less travel time.
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Old 09-13-2007, 02:37 AM
Paul J Gans
 
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Default Re: Printer consumables

Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net> wrote:
>ray wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:46:16 -0700, Rich wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 12, 9:26 am, philc <philcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Am looking to buy my first printer, and want to research consumable
>>>> costs, as they seem to vary widely. what are the cheapest consumables
>>>> suppliers in the UK?
>>>> Also are there any comparison tables showing cost per print for a wide
>>>> range of printers (ink jet and die-sub)?
>>>> I dont intend on spending more than £100, not sure if i want ink-jet
>>>> or die-sub. i understand i'll be more limited on size with die-sub,
>>>> but as i may not be using it frequently i may - from what i've read -
>>>> waste ink on an ink-jet by using them infrequently. I am also
>>>> surprised that the costs from what ive seen so far are approx 3-4x the
>>>> cost of photobox for 6x4's.
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>> Average cost of print from a mid-priced inkjet (for the ink) is around
>>> $ 2.50- $ 3.00 per image for an 8 x 10. I've seen cartidges run out
>>> after doing 15 sheets.
>>> The paper cost is about $1.00 sheet. So, when there are printers out
>>> there who charge $2.00 each for printing an 8 x 10. So home printing
>>> runs almost double that of getting it done by an outside source.

>>
>> There is also no reason to believe that you can do a better job with a
>> $300 inkjet printer that the printing services can do with a machine which
>> cost several thousand dollars.
>>


>True, but I can do it faster, and with less travel time.


It seems to me that printer manufacturers have gotten onto
the wrong side of the price/demand curve. I know many folks
who have totally given up on printing their own photos. Instead
they take them to Walmart or wherever.

Reason? Printing at home is too expensive. It may be too
late to recapture that market, but I'd think that halving the
cost of the ink would *more* than double the number of cartridges
sold due both to more printing per person and more people
printing.

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--- Paul J. Gans
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Old 09-13-2007, 03:48 AM
Olin K. McDaniel
 
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Default Re: Printer consumables

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:37:54 +0000 (UTC), Paul J Gans <gans@panix.com>
wrote:

>Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net> wrote:
>>ray wrote:
>>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:46:16 -0700, Rich wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sep 12, 9:26 am, philc <philcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Am looking to buy my first printer, and want to research consumable
>>>>> costs, as they seem to vary widely. what are the cheapest consumables
>>>>> suppliers in the UK?
>>>>> Also are there any comparison tables showing cost per print for a wide
>>>>> range of printers (ink jet and die-sub)?
>>>>> I dont intend on spending more than £100, not sure if i want ink-jet
>>>>> or die-sub. i understand i'll be more limited on size with die-sub,
>>>>> but as i may not be using it frequently i may - from what i've read -
>>>>> waste ink on an ink-jet by using them infrequently. I am also
>>>>> surprised that the costs from what ive seen so far are approx 3-4x the
>>>>> cost of photobox for 6x4's.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>> Average cost of print from a mid-priced inkjet (for the ink) is around
>>>> $ 2.50- $ 3.00 per image for an 8 x 10. I've seen cartidges run out
>>>> after doing 15 sheets.
>>>> The paper cost is about $1.00 sheet. So, when there are printers out
>>>> there who charge $2.00 each for printing an 8 x 10. So home printing
>>>> runs almost double that of getting it done by an outside source.
>>>
>>> There is also no reason to believe that you can do a better job with a
>>> $300 inkjet printer that the printing services can do with a machine which
>>> cost several thousand dollars.
>>>

>
>>True, but I can do it faster, and with less travel time.

>
>It seems to me that printer manufacturers have gotten onto
>the wrong side of the price/demand curve. I know many folks
>who have totally given up on printing their own photos. Instead
>they take them to Walmart or wherever.
>
>Reason? Printing at home is too expensive. It may be too
>late to recapture that market, but I'd think that halving the
>cost of the ink would *more* than double the number of cartridges
>sold due both to more printing per person and more people
>printing.
>
>--
> --- Paul J. Gans



I'd like to offer another solution to this movement away from home
printing. If the printer manufacturers would sell the printers at a
price to insure a fair profit on them ALONE and stop trying to make
all their profit on the cartridges at their high prices and efforts to
thwart refilling, more people would do their printing at home. That
was the way things were a few years ago, but someone decided to go for
a totally different marketing strategy. If it is costing them sales
dollars now - you suppose they will figure out why? And go back to
what used to work? I'm not holding my breath.

Olin McDaniel

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Old 09-13-2007, 08:44 AM
Ron Hunter
 
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Default Re: Printer consumables

Paul J Gans wrote:
> Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net> wrote:
>> ray wrote:
>>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:46:16 -0700, Rich wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sep 12, 9:26 am, philc <philcu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Am looking to buy my first printer, and want to research consumable
>>>>> costs, as they seem to vary widely. what are the cheapest consumables
>>>>> suppliers in the UK?
>>>>> Also are there any comparison tables showing cost per print for a wide
>>>>> range of printers (ink jet and die-sub)?
>>>>> I dont intend on spending more than £100, not sure if i want ink-jet
>>>>> or die-sub. i understand i'll be more limited on size with die-sub,
>>>>> but as i may not be using it frequently i may - from what i've read -
>>>>> waste ink on an ink-jet by using them infrequently. I am also
>>>>> surprised that the costs from what ive seen so far are approx 3-4x the
>>>>> cost of photobox for 6x4's.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>> Average cost of print from a mid-priced inkjet (for the ink) is around
>>>> $ 2.50- $ 3.00 per image for an 8 x 10. I've seen cartidges run out
>>>> after doing 15 sheets.
>>>> The paper cost is about $1.00 sheet. So, when there are printers out
>>>> there who charge $2.00 each for printing an 8 x 10. So home printing
>>>> runs almost double that of getting it done by an outside source.
>>> There is also no reason to believe that you can do a better job with a
>>> $300 inkjet printer that the printing services can do with a machine which
>>> cost several thousand dollars.
>>>

>
>> True, but I can do it faster, and with less travel time.

>
> It seems to me that printer manufacturers have gotten onto
> the wrong side of the price/demand curve. I know many folks
> who have totally given up on printing their own photos. Instead
> they take them to Walmart or wherever.
>
> Reason? Printing at home is too expensive. It may be too
> late to recapture that market, but I'd think that halving the
> cost of the ink would *more* than double the number of cartridges
> sold due both to more printing per person and more people
> printing.
>


I am sure that is exactly what Kodak is hoping will happen. Remains to
be seen if they are right. I have looked at their printers, and while
they are a bit more expensive, they seem well built, if a bit larger
than I like. Not really in the market for a new printer, but if I were,
they would go on the short list.
But cost savings is NOT one of the reasons for printing one's own
pictures. There are several:
1. Immediate results.
2. Flexible, per picture adjustments
3. Privacy.
4. Control of quality, paper choice, etc.

I am sure there are many more, but cost savings aren't among them.
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