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Old 09-29-2008, 11:11 AM
Arthur Entlich
 
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Default Re: OEM and Generic in the same Printer?

It really depends on how close the formulation is to the OEM version.
Some 3rd party inks can interact negatively with the OEM ink, causing
the print to go "funny'. In rare causes it could cause some clogging,
since the heads are often ganged together and ink migrates between them
a bit. To test, mix some OEM ink with some of the 3rd party and see if
they interact badly, creating anything that looks like it is clotting,
for instance.

The most common problem is color accuracy being lost. If that isn't
critical, you'll probably be fine, but usually the ink color profiles
differ from OEM, and mixing them makes it nearly impossible to get a
very accurate color image, since the inks are independent and a moving
target if you changes one at a time.

It may be worth it in your case, if accuracy of color isn't critical.

Art


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Jeff wrote:
> Is it ok in a Inkjet printer to have lets say OEM Black, OEM Cyan, OEM
> Magenta and GENERIC Yellow together?
>
> In other words, if you switch to generic, do you have to switch ALL the
> OEM to generic at the same time or one by one as each individual OEM
> cartridge runs out?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff

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  #12  
Old 09-29-2008, 11:57 AM
Arthur Entlich
 
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Default Re: OEM and Generic in the same Printer?

Now you are probably pushing your luck. Again, at teh end it all
depends upon the inks in use and those the dollar store is supplying.

Some printers use OEM pigment colorant inks, most dollar store inks are
dye based rather than pigment. How well they mix is an unknown until tried.

Most dollar store inks are "generic" which differs from 3rd party inks.
Generic inks tend to claim they can be used with a fairly wide variety
of brands and inkjet printer models. This is less likely to be true,
relative to inks the companies themselves design for their printer, or
similar equivalent inks formulated for a bit more money. Personally, I
would keep my distance for so-called dollar store inks unless they
indicated fairly restricted use by model type.

Art


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Jeff wrote:
>
> Important follow-up question:
>
> If I have currently a CFS system (For my Epson 880) with the external
> reservoirs.
>
> Let's say those external plastic reservoirs are running low on ink and I
> haven't yet ordered bulk replacement ink, is it ok, to use dollar store
> black/cyan/magenta/yellow to these getting empty CFS external
> reservoirs, in other words (will mixing the CFS inks to dollar store
> inks do any damage?)
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "DanG" <nospam@q.com> wrote in message
> news:dOmdnaM_iYw4-0PVnZ2dnUVZ_qXinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Jeff" <Jeff@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:48de471c$0$4977$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>> Is it ok in a Inkjet printer to have lets say OEM Black, OEM Cyan,
>>> OEM Magenta and GENERIC Yellow together?
>>>
>>> In other words, if you switch to generic, do you have to switch ALL
>>> the OEM to generic at the same time or one by one as each individual
>>> OEM cartridge runs out?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jeff

>>
>> Yes, it's OK. with the caveat that some combinations of ink tank and
>> printer will error if tanks chips are mixed. But if you get no ink
>> tank errors, you're good to go.
>>

>

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  #13  
Old 09-29-2008, 12:02 PM
Arthur Entlich
 
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Default Re: OEM and Generic in the same Printer?

The original (OEM) Epson inks for the 880 were indeed dye based. Since
dye colorant inks are the cheapest to produce, have the best shelf life
and are the most ubiquitous of all inkjet printer inks, I'm guessing the
dollar store inks are also dye colorant based. The problem is what type
of dyes were used, and what is the base for the inks.

Cheap inks tend to be very fade prone, if that is an issue, as well.

Art



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Jeff wrote:
> MY Epson CFS system for the 880 says it will work with dye based,
> pigment, or dyesublimation inks. Says it will not work with solvent
> based inks.
>
> Just curious as to whether dollare store ink is dyebased, pigment ,
> dysublimation or solvent based, anyone know?
>
> The dollare store ink are those round plastic conatainers that come with
> a syringe, I suppose theres 1 ounce of ink in them.
>
>
> I', also trying to figure out if the original epson 880 inks are
> pigment/dye based , dyesublimation or solvent based..
>
> The CFS system I ordered came with dye based ink,
>
> Jeff
>
>
> "TJ" <TJ@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:gbns67$lo1$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> Jeff wrote:
>>> Is it ok in a Inkjet printer to have lets say OEM Black, OEM Cyan,
>>> OEM Magenta and GENERIC Yellow together?
>>>
>>> In other words, if you switch to generic, do you have to switch ALL
>>> the OEM to generic at the same time or one by one as each individual
>>> OEM cartridge runs out?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jeff

>>
>> I've never had any problem in that regard with the HP carts that I've
>> refilled. Because the heads are contained on the carts, it's best to
>> refill BEFORE the cart runs out of ink. That means there's always at
>> least some OEM ink in a new cartridge the first time I refill it. Just
>> be sure to avoid "universal" generic inks. "Universal" inks are
>> usually dye-based, and might not mix well with the pigment-based inks
>> used in some printers.
>>
>> TJ

>

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  #14  
Old 09-29-2008, 10:14 PM
DevilsPGD
 
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Default Re: OEM and Generic in the same Printer?

In message <jx2Ek.24$ex3.10@newsfe02.iad> Arthur Entlich
<e-printerhelp@mvps.org> was claimed to have wrote:

>Personally, I
>would keep my distance for so-called dollar store inks unless they
>indicated fairly restricted use by model type.


The generics will respond to this by creating different SKUs and labels
for identical products, rendering this particular technique moot.
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