Re: Need OCR software-installer from Lexmark x6170 CD
In article <473d1087$0$79870$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, user@domain.invalid says...
> Don't worry.
>
> I say that you're totally legitimate and that Lexmark is nasty (not the
> first time I've heard this complaint and my experience, too.).
Not only an English expert but a lawyer too. Impresive.
>
> As far as the other guy is concerned, he's a troll, and should be ignored.
>
And you give out possibly illegal information. What's your're term
for that, English expert?
< Spelling and grammatical mistakes left in for those that need a
reason to live. >
Re: Need OCR software-installer from Lexmark x6170 CD
This raises a few points.
The main one, however, is that Lexmark isn't willing or isn't able to
service their client. This is a problem which is getting progressively
more difficult with manufacturers who can't or won't support their
products once they make the initial sale.
Sometimes it is a matter of the company not owning the code in question.
Many times bundled products that come with a peripheral are licensed
by the manufacturer for one distribution only. Even though a person
received it with the original purchase and can be used indefinitely, the
license agreement may only extend to a certain number of units, a
certain date, or other restrictions.
In some cases, however, the manufacturer no longer has a hard copy
version, never placed it on their web site (perhaps to prevent
unauthorized downloads), or doesn't want to be bothered to have to
verify ownership of the person requesting the item, or just would rather
you buy another newer product.
There are no simple answers, and sometimes people need to bend the rules
to resolve these problems. Although it may be in opposition of the
wording in the EULA, sometimes common sense should take precedent. I'm
not sure accusing someone of being a thief is fair or appropriate, however.
Art
Bill wrote:
> In article <473B7396.3070908@gmail.com>, not-real@gmail.com says...
>
>>Cal Bubba wrote:
>>
>>>Bill wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <473b3754$0$8623$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, not-
>>>>real@gmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>>>Would someone be kind enough to post the OCR installation software?
>>>>>It is not available for download it from Lexmark and I am hoping to
>>>>>avoid paying for it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks in advance!!!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is not a warez group. Take your thievery elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>
>>>Bill, he didn't ask about warez or cracks: lighten up.
>>>
>>>Lenny, take your question to one of the freeware newsgroups. Even though
>>>your contraption is a printer/all-in-one, scanning issues like this are
>>>off-topic here. I understand that there may be one or two free OCR
>>>programs out there. How good they are is another question. I've found
>>>that in the case of bundled OCR, there can be "gotchas," such as in the
>>>case of the Xerox program that came with my Visioneer scanner, you've
>>>got to buy the "legit" version if you want it to read normal-sized
>>>fonts; the bundled "lite" version only reads large sizes not typical of
>>>normal documents: gotcha! It's a good scanner marred by contemptuous
>>>"support" (mostly the lack of it after warranty).
>>>
>>>So, if you want good OCR, you'll probably have to pay for it. Still,
>>>it's worth trying freeware, if any. Please report back if you find
>>>anything since I'm interested myself.
>>>
>>>There is only one Bubba-of-the-West
>>>
>>
>>Gents,
>>
>>Thanks for the response. I already have a couple freeware OCR apps I
>>downloaded from www.snapfiles.com. They are not, however, integrated
>>with the All-In-One Lexmark software, as is the case with the OCR that
>>was provided with the CD that came with the device when I bought it new
>>(yeah Bill, chill out and watch who you call a thief, I bought it).
>
>
> You should have said that in the first place. Then you've already got
> the software, right?
>
>
>>I
>>have misplaced the original Disc in the course of a change of residence.
>>Lexmark does not offer this software for download, nor do they offer a
>>way to obtain the FREE OCR software that comes with the device.
>
>
> It wasn't free. It's cost was incorporated into the purchase price of
> your Lexmark AIO.
>
> You need to contact Lexmark to replace your cd. Yep, may cost money.
>
>
>>There is an "OCR" directory on the CD, a zipped copy of that would be
>>great if anyone has it.
>>
>
>
> Now your asking for somebody else's puchased software again. If the
> EULA on the software says " free to pass on to anybody you want to "
> then no problem. If it say " usable by the original purchaser only ",
> then we get back to that pesky theft word again.
>
> Bill
Re: Need OCR software-installer from Lexmark x6170 CD
Arthur Entlich wrote:
>
> There are no simple answers, and sometimes people need to bend the rules
> to resolve these problems. Although it may be in opposition of the
> wording in the EULA, sometimes common sense should take precedent. I'm
> not sure accusing someone of being a thief is fair or appropriate, however.
It certainly isn't. "Bill" sounds suspiciously Meashistic in his
unbending, self-righteous worship of the rights of the corporation. And
he seems to have a burning need to accuse other people of something,
whatever it is. Some people get off on accusing other people. Accusing
others makes them feel superior. We've got an entire segment of the
Religion Industry that dwell in these nether regions.
"Bill" conveniently overlooks the greedy behavior of the printer makers,
at the very edge of legality -- the current masters of the art of
restraint of trade, which is against the law (at least, in the United
States).
One thing that we don't know from the OP: did he call Lexmark and ask
them to employ their own common sense and fairness? Maybe they'd come
through for him. It sometimes happens.
In my own experience, I had one good and one bad experience with Lexmark
regarding the lamented, wonderful, IBM split keyboard. The good
(excellent, really) experience was personal help with a custom
modification above the call of duty. The bad experience was with a
customer support flunky. They'd dumped support onto a third party, a
repair shop in fact, who refused to sell replacement parts. Lexmark
didn't want to know me, and that was that.
Well, I'm not inclined to buy another Lexmark product after that
experience. Too many companies, unfortunately, take a short look into
the future when deciding how much to spend on support. Perhaps "Bill"
has unyielding devotion to Lexmark -- maybe he owns Lexmark stock or
something.
Re: Need OCR software-installer from Lexmark x6170 CD
In article <13k6g8ifsij1ra9@corp.supernews.com>, rgsteinBUTREMOVETHIS@sonicANDTHISTOO.net says...
> Arthur Entlich wrote:
> >
> > There are no simple answers, and sometimes people need to bend the rules
> > to resolve these problems. Although it may be in opposition of the
> > wording in the EULA, sometimes common sense should take precedent. I'm
> > not sure accusing someone of being a thief is fair or appropriate, however.
>
> It certainly isn't. "Bill" sounds suspiciously Meashistic in his
> unbending, self-righteous worship of the rights of the corporation.
Sounds like you're trying awfully hard to justify your own lack of
respect for the rights of others , who ever they may be, because it's
convienient for you to do so.
> And
> he seems to have a burning need to accuse other people of something,
> whatever it is. Some people get off on accusing other people. Accusing
> others makes them feel superior. We've got an entire segment of the
> Religion Industry that dwell in these nether regions.
How much did you pay for the crystal ball that gives you such insight
into the thought processes of others? Or are you just trying a little
'smoke and mirrors ' to distract others from seeing your own lack of
respect for the law and the rights of others?
>
> "Bill" conveniently overlooks the greedy behavior of the printer makers,
> at the very edge of legality -- the current masters of the art of
> restraint of trade, which is against the law (at least, in the United
> States).
Greed is not itself is not illegal. I notice you said nothing that
pointed to anything the printer makers were doing that was illegal.
Don't like the law? Get it changed. Oh wait, that would take some
amount of effort on your part. Whining about a bad law is so much
easier.
>
> One thing that we don't know from the OP: did he call Lexmark and ask
> them to employ their own common sense and fairness? Maybe they'd come
> through for him. It sometimes happens.
Yes. It would have been nice if he'd tried that first, and if he had,
told us of the reply from Lexmark.
>
> In my own experience, I had one good and one bad experience with Lexmark
> regarding the lamented, wonderful, IBM split keyboard. The good
> (excellent, really) experience was personal help with a custom
> modification above the call of duty. The bad experience was with a
> customer support flunky. They'd dumped support onto a third party, a
> repair shop in fact, who refused to sell replacement parts. Lexmark
> didn't want to know me, and that was that.
>
> Well, I'm not inclined to buy another Lexmark product after that
> experience. Too many companies, unfortunately, take a short look into
> the future when deciding how much to spend on support. Perhaps "Bill"
> has unyielding devotion to Lexmark -- maybe he owns Lexmark stock or
> something.
No, I own no Lexmark stock, though I do own an old E312 laser printer
that still works very well. It's just that I hold people to the
standard of respecting the legal rights of others. I suspect you would
be whineing loud and long if it was you being ripped off instead of
some greedy corporation.
>
> Richard
>
Bill
Any grammatical, punctuation, and/or speeling mistakes were left in
so that those that have a need to point out such things will have a
reason to go on livign.
What are you to do when its 6 am in the morning after a crash and you have a need for your ocr software that you purchased but cannot find the CD?
You download the printer setup from drivers downloads that dont have the OCR app you paid for. You cannot wait for the replacement CD to come and you need it now.
You ask for help. This is not a warez question. Its a need based question that happens to the best of us.
Strange you have a high horse, so watch out for your fall.
OBTW, I have purchased the software and had such a situation happen to me. It's nice to know such pleasant people like you exist.