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  #1  
Old 06-19-2008, 01:35 PM
Jim Yanik
 
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Default Lexmark X1240/W98SE

anybody have W98SE drivers for a Lexmark X1240??

G-D Microsoft WITHDREW them June of last year,and the box said it had
W98SE support,but inside was a errata sheet saying W98/ME support was
not available after June 30,2007.

The drivers existed,but MS -MADE- everyone pull them,even the archive
sites.I can understand MS not wanting to create drivers,but to pull
ones already made is underhanded and stingy.

If anyone can point me to an archive or website still having these
drivers,TIA.

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Old 06-20-2008, 12:31 AM
Cari
 
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Default Re: Lexmark X1240/W98SE

Did you try www.printer-drivers.com?
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"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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> anybody have W98SE drivers for a Lexmark X1240??
>
> G-D Microsoft WITHDREW them June of last year,and the box said it had
> W98SE support,but inside was a errata sheet saying W98/ME support was
> not available after June 30,2007.
>
> The drivers existed,but MS -MADE- everyone pull them,even the archive
> sites.I can understand MS not wanting to create drivers,but to pull
> ones already made is underhanded and stingy.
>
> If anyone can point me to an archive or website still having these
> drivers,TIA.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net


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Old 06-20-2008, 03:14 AM
Jim Yanik
 
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Default Re: Lexmark X1240/W98SE

"Cari" <newsgroups@coribright.com> wrote in
news:6c08icF3eopjkU1@mid.individual.net:

> Did you try www.printer-drivers.com?


yes,no luck.

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Old 06-20-2008, 10:46 PM
Cari
 
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Default Re: Lexmark X1240/W98SE

The drivers were withdrawn because Windows 98se is out of support and end of
life. Ask around to see if someone else has the same printer, and perhaps
they'll have the drivers.

Otherwise think about an upgrade to XP, as that's the only solution I can
offer. Sorry.
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Cari (MS-MVP) Printing & Imaging
www.coribright.com/windows

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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> "Cari" <newsgroups@coribright.com> wrote in
> news:6c08icF3eopjkU1@mid.individual.net:
>
>> Did you try www.printer-drivers.com?

>
> yes,no luck.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
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> at
> kua.net


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Old 06-21-2008, 12:28 AM
Jim Yanik
 
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Default Re: Lexmark X1240/W98SE

"Cari" <newsgroups@coribright.com> wrote in
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> The drivers were withdrawn because Windows 98se is out of support and
> end of life.


there are still drivers for older MS op systems on archive sites.
WHY withdraw *already existing* drivers?
Why should MS determine when my OS can no longer be used?
I can understand no NEW support,or MS themselves not having older OS stuff
on THEIR website,but making archive sites remove existing SW is predatory
and anti-customer.

It's a downright DIRTY practice.

> Ask around to see if someone else has the same printer,
> and perhaps they'll have the drivers.


That is what I'm doing here.
the drivers have to predate June 30,2007.
>
> Otherwise think about an upgrade to XP, as that's the only solution I
> can offer. Sorry.


XP is dead now,too.
IIRC,that OS requires an online registration to work,and I suspect MS will
not register them past MS's XP expiration date.

Vista will not work on my PC.

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Old 06-21-2008, 05:00 PM
Cari
 
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Default Re: Lexmark X1240/W98SE

I believe 98se had to be withdrawn because not only was it end of life, it
also contained Microsoft Java, which was the cause of an law action suit
with Sun, and subsequently withdrawn from other versions of Windows. You'd
have to take it up with Sun as to why they filed their suit in the first
place. Most of the driver packages relied on JVM for installation of the
printing software, so it could no longer be distributed.

Did you think about Windows 2000 as your O/S? I see plenty of drivers out
there for that O/S.

Sometimes we just have to live with what life throws us. I had four
wonderful Bridgestone Potenza tires on my car. One got a puncture that
could not be repaired. Bridgestone still make Potenza tires, but not the
exact model that was on my car. No tire company in town would fit an 'odd'
one. So three perfectly good tires had to be trashed and I went with four
Goodyear ones. End of life sucks, but sometimes that's the way it goes.
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Cari (MS-MVP) Printing & Imaging
www.coribright.com/windows

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns9AC3C61851BBDjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.87...
> "Cari" <newsgroups@coribright.com> wrote in
> news:6c2mqbF3e9uedU1@mid.individual.net:
>
>> The drivers were withdrawn because Windows 98se is out of support and
>> end of life.

>
> there are still drivers for older MS op systems on archive sites.
> WHY withdraw *already existing* drivers?
> Why should MS determine when my OS can no longer be used?
> I can understand no NEW support,or MS themselves not having older OS stuff
> on THEIR website,but making archive sites remove existing SW is predatory
> and anti-customer.
>
> It's a downright DIRTY practice.
>
>> Ask around to see if someone else has the same printer,
>> and perhaps they'll have the drivers.

>
> That is what I'm doing here.
> the drivers have to predate June 30,2007.
>>
>> Otherwise think about an upgrade to XP, as that's the only solution I
>> can offer. Sorry.

>
> XP is dead now,too.
> IIRC,that OS requires an online registration to work,and I suspect MS will
> not register them past MS's XP expiration date.
>
> Vista will not work on my PC.
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net


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Old 06-21-2008, 09:51 PM
Jim Yanik
 
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Default Re: Lexmark X1240/W98SE

"Cari" <newsgroups@coribright.com> wrote in
news:6c4mt4F3dr3gmU1@mid.individual.net:

> I believe 98se had to be withdrawn because not only was it end of
> life, it also contained Microsoft Java, which was the cause of an law
> action suit with Sun, and subsequently withdrawn from other versions
> of Windows. You'd have to take it up with Sun as to why they filed
> their suit in the first place. Most of the driver packages relied on
> JVM for installation of the printing software, so it could no longer
> be distributed.
>
> Did you think about Windows 2000 as your O/S? I see plenty of drivers
> out there for that O/S.


Hmm,something to consider...
Thanks.
>
> Sometimes we just have to live with what life throws us. I had four
> wonderful Bridgestone Potenza tires on my car. One got a puncture
> that could not be repaired. Bridgestone still make Potenza tires, but
> not the exact model that was on my car. No tire company in town would
> fit an 'odd' one. So three perfectly good tires had to be trashed and
> I went with four Goodyear ones. End of life sucks, but sometimes
> that's the way it goes.


sheesh,you could have just bought TWO new tires for front or rear.
Or you could have tried a junkyard.
Plus,you could have sold the 3 odd tires,instead of trashing them.


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Old 06-29-2008, 12:27 PM
Arthur Entlich
 
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Default Re: Lexmark X1240/W98SE

I am certainly not here to defend MS position in this matter. In fact,
I have been fighting over this problem for nearly a year now,
internally, so far, with little success. However, I can provide some
explanations for what's happening, although I do not agree with it.

Microsoft has an agreement (and this has been ongoing for at least 10
years) that when they withdraw Windows OS code, it will no longer be
supported, and therefore no one is allowed to distribute it beyond that
timing element. In the case of drivers for scanners, cameras and
printers, some companies used a part of the MS operating systems for
Win98 to build their drivers through. It was one of a number of methods
to build drivers, and there were some advantages. Other companies chose
to write their own drivers completely external to the OS. Those later
drivers are fully owned by their respective manufacturers and only they
can determine when the drivers will be no longer released.


I am still attempting to get MS to allow the manufacturers to offer
these drivers without warranty.

Now, as to XP... XP is not being withdrawn from the marketplace, at
least not for probably several years. It is being withdrawn as an
option for OEM computer sales, but will still be available as a boxed
item for some time to come, meaning it can also be registered.

Art


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Jim Yanik wrote:
> "Cari" <newsgroups@coribright.com> wrote in
> news:6c2mqbF3e9uedU1@mid.individual.net:
>
>> The drivers were withdrawn because Windows 98se is out of support and
>> end of life.

>
> there are still drivers for older MS op systems on archive sites.
> WHY withdraw *already existing* drivers?
> Why should MS determine when my OS can no longer be used?
> I can understand no NEW support,or MS themselves not having older OS stuff
> on THEIR website,but making archive sites remove existing SW is predatory
> and anti-customer.
>
> It's a downright DIRTY practice.
>
>> Ask around to see if someone else has the same printer,
>> and perhaps they'll have the drivers.

>
> That is what I'm doing here.
> the drivers have to predate June 30,2007.
>> Otherwise think about an upgrade to XP, as that's the only solution I
>> can offer. Sorry.

>
> XP is dead now,too.
> IIRC,that OS requires an online registration to work,and I suspect MS will
> not register them past MS's XP expiration date.
>
> Vista will not work on my PC.
>

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