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Old 06-17-2008, 08:58 PM
Howard Neil
 
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Default Kodak 5300


I have just bought one of these and thought I would let others know what
it is like as I have seen precious little mention of them.

I did have an Epson Stylus Photo R265 that was giving a problem. Arthur
Entlich kindly sent me his excellent cleaning manual (thanks Arthur)
but, before I could clean anything, the printer decided to have a
misfunction which insisted that the yellow cartridge was empty even when
it was a new one (it did this to two new cartridges). Since this was the
third Epson that had lasted less than 18 months, I decided never to get
another Epson but to look for something made a little better.

My first thought went to the Kodak range, mainly due to their ink
pricing policy but also due to the fact that I trusted their build
quality as I used to work for Kodak and understood the thinking in the
company. I selected the 5300 as being the best for me.

Delivery was quick and I was pleased to see that it came from Germany
(the German factory used to produce the best items and was used for all
the top of the range kit). The first thing I noticed was the weight; it
was heavy. Much heavier than the old Epson printer and the Epson scanner
(still working) combined.

I then ran some test prints, both "normal" printing and photographs. I
also tested the scanner for quality. I always considered the output from
Epson machines to be of very high quality, so I was pleasantly surprised
that the Kodak surpassed the printing quality that I had become used to.

Only time will tell if the quality of the printing lasts and how
reliable the printer proves to be. At the moment it is very early days
but the only thing I can find to criticise is that the ink comes in only
two tanks. It may work out a lot cheaper for the ink but I still don't
like the idea of changing the colour cartridge because just one colour
has run out.


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Old 06-18-2008, 07:04 AM
Arthur Entlich
 
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Default Re: Kodak 5300

Sorry to hear your Epson experience ended up in not being able to rescue
the printer.

Although I haven't owned a Kodak printer, I have looked at the product
carefully, and I too was quite pleased at the build quality. The types
of materials used seemed to be well chosen and robust. The print
quality was good, although the samples I saw seemed a bit overly
saturated. Some of the sample printers I have tested had head clogged,
but sample printers get abused.

You are right that these models have not seen a great market penetration
yet, which is unfortunate because they are a good solution to the
ridiculous OEM ink prices usually encountered. The one thing that does
worry me, is that Kodak seems to have been forced to lower their printer
prices to compete with the other manufacturers, meaning they have
probably cut their profits. Since they are working on a lower margin on
the ink and paper, I just hope they can keep it economically sustainable
for them. The printers should be more costly than they are if they hope
to maintain the ink and paper prices at the costs they have.

Keep us informed of your experience with the printer. If you can
continue to recommend it, I am sure that kind of information will be
helpful in encouraging others and perhaps more will sell.

As to the ganged ink cartridges, don't assume that method wastes a lot
of ink. Epson's single color cartridges don't really save ink, because
each time you put in a new cartridge, all the ink heads are purged, and
a lot of ink is wasted that way. If you have a number of cartridges
close to needing replacement it may actually save ink to change them all
at once, to avoid numerous purges of relatively new cartridges. With
half a dozen or more inks, you can get into a vicious cycle of purging,
running out of ink, purging again, etc. one after another.

The secret to make ganged ink cartridges work best for the user is to
place the colors of ink together which get used relatively evenly. For
instance, the C M usually get used up at a very similar rate. Y usually
is used more rapidly. LC and LM get used even more quickly, and black
gets used the least in most photo applications, of course if a lot of
black and white and black text is printed that changes things.

So, with proper ganging of the colors and with using different
capacities for specific colors, you may have less waste than when using
individual color cartridges.

Art


If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:

http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/

Howard Neil wrote:
>
> I have just bought one of these and thought I would let others know what
> it is like as I have seen precious little mention of them.
>
> I did have an Epson Stylus Photo R265 that was giving a problem. Arthur
> Entlich kindly sent me his excellent cleaning manual (thanks Arthur)
> but, before I could clean anything, the printer decided to have a
> misfunction which insisted that the yellow cartridge was empty even when
> it was a new one (it did this to two new cartridges). Since this was the
> third Epson that had lasted less than 18 months, I decided never to get
> another Epson but to look for something made a little better.
>
> My first thought went to the Kodak range, mainly due to their ink
> pricing policy but also due to the fact that I trusted their build
> quality as I used to work for Kodak and understood the thinking in the
> company. I selected the 5300 as being the best for me.
>
> Delivery was quick and I was pleased to see that it came from Germany
> (the German factory used to produce the best items and was used for all
> the top of the range kit). The first thing I noticed was the weight; it
> was heavy. Much heavier than the old Epson printer and the Epson scanner
> (still working) combined.
>
> I then ran some test prints, both "normal" printing and photographs. I
> also tested the scanner for quality. I always considered the output from
> Epson machines to be of very high quality, so I was pleasantly surprised
> that the Kodak surpassed the printing quality that I had become used to.
>
> Only time will tell if the quality of the printing lasts and how
> reliable the printer proves to be. At the moment it is very early days
> but the only thing I can find to criticise is that the ink comes in only
> two tanks. It may work out a lot cheaper for the ink but I still don't
> like the idea of changing the colour cartridge because just one colour
> has run out.
>
>

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Old 06-18-2008, 10:25 AM
Bampah
 
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Default Re: Kodak 5300

On 18 Jun, 08:04, Arthur Entlich <e-printerh...@mvps.org> wrote:
> Sorry to hear your Epson experience ended up in not being able to rescue
> the printer.
>
> Although I haven't owned a Kodak printer, I have looked at the product
> carefully, and I too was quite pleased at the build quality. The types
> of materials used seemed to be well chosen and robust. The print
> quality was good, although the samples I saw seemed a bit overly
> saturated. Some of the sample printers I have tested had head clogged,
> but sample printers get abused.
>
> You are right that these models have not seen a great market penetration
> yet, which is unfortunate because they are a good solution to the
> ridiculous OEM ink prices usually encountered. The one thing that does
> worry me, is that Kodak seems to have been forced to lower their printer
> prices to compete with the other manufacturers, meaning they have
> probably cut their profits. Since they are working on a lower margin on
> the ink and paper, I just hope they can keep it economically sustainable
> for them. The printers should be more costly than they are if they hope
> to maintain the ink and paper prices at the costs they have.
>
> Keep us informed of your experience with the printer. If you can
> continue to recommend it, I am sure that kind of information will be
> helpful in encouraging others and perhaps more will sell.
>
> As to the ganged ink cartridges, don't assume that method wastes a lot
> of ink. Epson's single color cartridges don't really save ink, because
> each time you put in a new cartridge, all the ink heads are purged, and
> a lot of ink is wasted that way. If you have a number of cartridges
> close to needing replacement it may actually save ink to change them all
> at once, to avoid numerous purges of relatively new cartridges. With
> half a dozen or more inks, you can get into a vicious cycle of purging,
> running out of ink, purging again, etc. one after another.
>
> The secret to make ganged ink cartridges work best for the user is to
> place the colors of ink together which get used relatively evenly. For
> instance, the C M usually get used up at a very similar rate. Y usually
> is used more rapidly. LC and LM get used even more quickly, and black
> gets used the least in most photo applications, of course if a lot of
> black and white and black text is printed that changes things.
>
> So, with proper ganging of the colors and with using different
> capacities for specific colors, you may have less waste than when using
> individual color cartridges.
>
> Art
>
> If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
> I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:
>
> http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/
>
> Howard Neil wrote:
>
> > I have just bought one of these and thought I would let others know what
> > it is like as I have seen precious little mention of them.

>
> > I did have an Epson Stylus PhotoR265that was giving a problem. Arthur
> > Entlich kindly sent me his excellent cleaning manual (thanks Arthur)
> > but, before I could clean anything, the printer decided to have a
> > misfunction which insisted that the yellow cartridge was empty even when
> > it was a new one (it did this to two new cartridges). Since this was the
> > third Epson that had lasted less than 18 months, I decided never to get
> > another Epson but to look for something made a little better.

>
> > My first thought went to the Kodak range, mainly due to their ink
> > pricing policy but also due to the fact that I trusted their build
> > quality as I used to work for Kodak and understood the thinking in the
> > company. I selected the 5300 as being the best for me.

>
> > Delivery was quick and I was pleased to see that it came from Germany
> > (the German factory used to produce the best items and was used for all
> > the top of the range kit). The first thing I noticed was the weight; it
> > was heavy. Much heavier than the old Epson printer and the Epson scanner
> > (still working) combined.

>
> > I then ran some test prints, both "normal" printing and photographs. I
> > also tested the scanner for quality. I always considered the output from
> > Epson machines to be of very high quality, so I was pleasantly surprised
> > that the Kodak surpassed the printing quality that I had become used to.

>
> > Only time will tell if the quality of the printing lasts and how
> > reliable the printer proves to be. At the moment it is very early days
> > but the only thing I can find to criticise is that the ink comes in only
> > two tanks. It may work out a lot cheaper for the ink but I still don't
> > like the idea of changing the colour cartridge because just one colour
> > has run out.


Hi Art
Is there any chance that you could send me a copy of the R265 Cleaning
manual that you sent to Howard or steer me in the right direction to
find it myself.
tia
Rob
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Old 06-18-2008, 10:35 AM
Arthur Entlich
 
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Default Re: Kodak 5300

Hi Bampah,

You can get a copy of my Epson Cleaning Manual, at no charge, from the
e-mail address shown below. Please mention the printer you are using,
and what, if any, specific problem is occurring.

e-printerhelp(at)mvps(dot)org

(at) = @
(dot) = .

Art


If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:

http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/

Bampah wrote:
> On 18 Jun, 08:04, Arthur Entlich <e-printerh...@mvps.org> wrote:
>> Sorry to hear your Epson experience ended up in not being able to rescue
>> the printer.
>>
>> Although I haven't owned a Kodak printer, I have looked at the product
>> carefully, and I too was quite pleased at the build quality. The types
>> of materials used seemed to be well chosen and robust. The print
>> quality was good, although the samples I saw seemed a bit overly
>> saturated. Some of the sample printers I have tested had head clogged,
>> but sample printers get abused.
>>
>> You are right that these models have not seen a great market penetration
>> yet, which is unfortunate because they are a good solution to the
>> ridiculous OEM ink prices usually encountered. The one thing that does
>> worry me, is that Kodak seems to have been forced to lower their printer
>> prices to compete with the other manufacturers, meaning they have
>> probably cut their profits. Since they are working on a lower margin on
>> the ink and paper, I just hope they can keep it economically sustainable
>> for them. The printers should be more costly than they are if they hope
>> to maintain the ink and paper prices at the costs they have.
>>
>> Keep us informed of your experience with the printer. If you can
>> continue to recommend it, I am sure that kind of information will be
>> helpful in encouraging others and perhaps more will sell.
>>
>> As to the ganged ink cartridges, don't assume that method wastes a lot
>> of ink. Epson's single color cartridges don't really save ink, because
>> each time you put in a new cartridge, all the ink heads are purged, and
>> a lot of ink is wasted that way. If you have a number of cartridges
>> close to needing replacement it may actually save ink to change them all
>> at once, to avoid numerous purges of relatively new cartridges. With
>> half a dozen or more inks, you can get into a vicious cycle of purging,
>> running out of ink, purging again, etc. one after another.
>>
>> The secret to make ganged ink cartridges work best for the user is to
>> place the colors of ink together which get used relatively evenly. For
>> instance, the C M usually get used up at a very similar rate. Y usually
>> is used more rapidly. LC and LM get used even more quickly, and black
>> gets used the least in most photo applications, of course if a lot of
>> black and white and black text is printed that changes things.
>>
>> So, with proper ganging of the colors and with using different
>> capacities for specific colors, you may have less waste than when using
>> individual color cartridges.
>>
>> Art
>>
>> If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
>> I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:
>>
>> http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/
>>
>> Howard Neil wrote:
>>
>>> I have just bought one of these and thought I would let others know what
>>> it is like as I have seen precious little mention of them.
>>> I did have an Epson Stylus PhotoR265that was giving a problem. Arthur
>>> Entlich kindly sent me his excellent cleaning manual (thanks Arthur)
>>> but, before I could clean anything, the printer decided to have a
>>> misfunction which insisted that the yellow cartridge was empty even when
>>> it was a new one (it did this to two new cartridges). Since this was the
>>> third Epson that had lasted less than 18 months, I decided never to get
>>> another Epson but to look for something made a little better.
>>> My first thought went to the Kodak range, mainly due to their ink
>>> pricing policy but also due to the fact that I trusted their build
>>> quality as I used to work for Kodak and understood the thinking in the
>>> company. I selected the 5300 as being the best for me.
>>> Delivery was quick and I was pleased to see that it came from Germany
>>> (the German factory used to produce the best items and was used for all
>>> the top of the range kit). The first thing I noticed was the weight; it
>>> was heavy. Much heavier than the old Epson printer and the Epson scanner
>>> (still working) combined.
>>> I then ran some test prints, both "normal" printing and photographs. I
>>> also tested the scanner for quality. I always considered the output from
>>> Epson machines to be of very high quality, so I was pleasantly surprised
>>> that the Kodak surpassed the printing quality that I had become used to.
>>> Only time will tell if the quality of the printing lasts and how
>>> reliable the printer proves to be. At the moment it is very early days
>>> but the only thing I can find to criticise is that the ink comes in only
>>> two tanks. It may work out a lot cheaper for the ink but I still don't
>>> like the idea of changing the colour cartridge because just one colour
>>> has run out.

>
> Hi Art
> Is there any chance that you could send me a copy of the R265 Cleaning
> manual that you sent to Howard or steer me in the right direction to
> find it myself.
> tia
> Rob

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Old 06-18-2008, 04:52 PM
Howard Neil
 
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Default Re: Kodak 5300


Arthur Entlich wrote:
> Sorry to hear your Epson experience ended up in not being able to rescue
> the printer.
>
> Although I haven't owned a Kodak printer, I have looked at the product
> carefully, and I too was quite pleased at the build quality. The types
> of materials used seemed to be well chosen and robust. The print
> quality was good, although the samples I saw seemed a bit overly
> saturated. Some of the sample printers I have tested had head clogged,
> but sample printers get abused.
>
> You are right that these models have not seen a great market penetration
> yet, which is unfortunate because they are a good solution to the
> ridiculous OEM ink prices usually encountered. The one thing that does
> worry me, is that Kodak seems to have been forced to lower their printer
> prices to compete with the other manufacturers, meaning they have
> probably cut their profits. Since they are working on a lower margin on
> the ink and paper, I just hope they can keep it economically sustainable
> for them. The printers should be more costly than they are if they hope
> to maintain the ink and paper prices at the costs they have.
>
> Keep us informed of your experience with the printer. If you can
> continue to recommend it, I am sure that kind of information will be
> helpful in encouraging others and perhaps more will sell.
>
> As to the ganged ink cartridges, don't assume that method wastes a lot
> of ink. Epson's single color cartridges don't really save ink, because
> each time you put in a new cartridge, all the ink heads are purged, and
> a lot of ink is wasted that way. If you have a number of cartridges
> close to needing replacement it may actually save ink to change them all
> at once, to avoid numerous purges of relatively new cartridges. With
> half a dozen or more inks, you can get into a vicious cycle of purging,
> running out of ink, purging again, etc. one after another.
>
> The secret to make ganged ink cartridges work best for the user is to
> place the colors of ink together which get used relatively evenly. For
> instance, the C M usually get used up at a very similar rate. Y usually
> is used more rapidly. LC and LM get used even more quickly, and black
> gets used the least in most photo applications, of course if a lot of
> black and white and black text is printed that changes things.
>
> So, with proper ganging of the colors and with using different
> capacities for specific colors, you may have less waste than when using
> individual color cartridges.


Hi Art, thank you for your reassurance regarding the ink cartridges. I
will certainly try to remember to update this thread when I have used
the printer a little more. Hopefully, it won't need a head cleaning
manual but, if it does, perhaps you may be able to adapt your Epson one? :-J


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Old 06-19-2008, 12:11 PM
measekite
 
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Default Re: Kodak 5300



Arthur Entlich wrote:
> Sorry to hear your Epson experience ended up in not being able to
> rescue the printer.
>
> Although I haven't owned a Kodak printer,

There are many in group that admonish others giving advice if they did
not own the printer in question.
> I have looked at the product carefully, and I too was quite pleased at
> the build quality. The types of materials used seemed to be well
> chosen and robust. The print quality was good, although the samples I
> saw seemed a bit overly saturated. Some of the sample printers I have
> tested had head clogged, but sample printers get abused.
>
> You are right that these models have not seen a great market
> penetration yet, which is unfortunate because they are a good solution
> to the ridiculous OEM ink prices usually encountered.

Not really, when you look at the paper and ink package cost and the
mileage you get you will find that the savings do not add up to the
claimed amount. Look at the reviews in PC Mag and PC World.
> The one thing that does worry me, is that Kodak seems to have been
> forced to lower their printer prices to compete with the other
> manufacturers, meaning they have probably cut their profits. Since
> they are working on a lower margin on the ink and paper, I just hope
> they can keep it economically sustainable for them. The printers
> should be more costly than they are if they hope to maintain the ink
> and paper prices at the costs they have.
>
> Keep us informed of your experience with the printer. If you can
> continue to recommend it, I am sure that kind of information will be
> helpful in encouraging others and perhaps more will sell.
>
> As to the ganged ink cartridges, don't assume that method wastes a lot
> of ink.

It does.
> Epson's single color cartridges don't really save ink,

They do.
> because each time you put in a new cartridge, all the ink heads are
> purged, and a lot of ink is wasted that way. If you have a number of
> cartridges close to needing replacement it may actually save ink to
> change them all at once, to avoid numerous purges of relatively new
> cartridges. With half a dozen or more inks, you can get into a
> vicious cycle of purging, running out of ink, purging again, etc. one
> after another.

Canon is better.
>
> The secret to make ganged ink cartridges work best for the user is to
> place the colors of ink together which get used relatively evenly.
> For instance, the C M usually get used up at a very similar rate. Y
> usually is used more rapidly. LC and LM get used even more quickly,
> and black gets used the least in most photo applications, of course if
> a lot of black and white and black text is printed that changes things.
>
> So, with proper ganging of the colors and with using different
> capacities for specific colors, you may have less waste than when
> using individual color cartridges.
>
> Art
>
>
> If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
> I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:
>
> http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/
>
> Howard Neil wrote:
>>
>> I have just bought one of these and thought I would let others know
>> what it is like as I have seen precious little mention of them.
>>
>> I did have an Epson Stylus Photo R265 that was giving a problem.
>> Arthur Entlich kindly sent me his excellent cleaning manual (thanks
>> Arthur) but, before I could clean anything, the printer decided to
>> have a misfunction which insisted that the yellow cartridge was empty
>> even when it was a new one (it did this to two new cartridges). Since
>> this was the third Epson that had lasted less than 18 months, I
>> decided never to get another Epson but to look for something made a
>> little better.
>>
>> My first thought went to the Kodak range, mainly due to their ink
>> pricing policy but also due to the fact that I trusted their build
>> quality as I used to work for Kodak and understood the thinking in
>> the company. I selected the 5300 as being the best for me.
>>
>> Delivery was quick and I was pleased to see that it came from Germany
>> (the German factory used to produce the best items and was used for
>> all the top of the range kit). The first thing I noticed was the
>> weight; it was heavy. Much heavier than the old Epson printer and the
>> Epson scanner (still working) combined.
>>
>> I then ran some test prints, both "normal" printing and photographs.
>> I also tested the scanner for quality. I always considered the output
>> from Epson machines to be of very high quality, so I was pleasantly
>> surprised that the Kodak surpassed the printing quality that I had
>> become used to.
>>
>> Only time will tell if the quality of the printing lasts and how
>> reliable the printer proves to be. At the moment it is very early
>> days but the only thing I can find to criticise is that the ink comes
>> in only two tanks. It may work out a lot cheaper for the ink but I
>> still don't like the idea of changing the colour cartridge because
>> just one colour has run out.
>>
>>

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Old 06-19-2008, 12:13 PM
measekite
 
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Default Re: Kodak 5300



Bampah wrote:

On 18 Jun, 08:04, Arthur Entlich &lt;e-printerh...@mvps.org&gt; wrote:



Sorry to hear your Epson experience ended up in not being able to rescue the printer. Although I haven't owned a Kodak printer, I have looked at the product carefully, and I too was quite pleased at the build quality. The types of materials used seemed to be well chosen and robust. The print quality was good, although the samples I saw seemed a bit overly saturated. Some of the sample printers I have tested had head clogged, but sample printers get abused. You are right that these models have not seen a great market penetration yet, which is unfortunate because they are a good solution to the ridiculous OEM ink prices usually encountered. The one thing that does worry me, is that Kodak seems to have been forced to lower their printer prices to compete with the other manufacturers, meaning they have probably cut their profits. Since they are working on a lower margin on the ink and paper, I just hope they can keep it economically sustainable for them. The printers should be more costly than they are if they hope to maintain the ink and paper prices at the costs they have. Keep us informed of your experience with the printer. If you can continue to recommend it, I am sure that kind of information will be helpful in encouraging others and perhaps more will sell. As to the ganged ink cartridges, don't assume that method wastes a lot of ink. Epson's single color cartridges don't really save ink, because each time you put in a new cartridge, all the ink heads are purged, and a lot of ink is wasted that way. If you have a number of cartridges close to needing replacement it may actually save ink to change them all at once, to avoid numerous purges of relatively new cartridges. With half a dozen or more inks, you can get into a vicious cycle of purging, running out of ink, purging again, etc. one after another. The secret to make ganged ink cartridges work best for the user is to place the colors of ink together which get used relatively evenly. For instance, the C M usually get used up at a very similar rate. Y usually is used more rapidly. LC and LM get used even more quickly, and black gets used the least in most photo applications, of course if a lot of black and white and black text is printed that changes things. So, with proper ganging of the colors and with using different capacities for specific colors, you may have less waste than when using individual color cartridges. Art If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste, I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog: http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/ Howard Neil wrote:



I have just bought one of these and thought I would let others know what it is like as I have seen precious little mention of them.



I did have an Epson Stylus PhotoR265that was giving a problem. Arthur Entlich kindly sent me his excellent cleaning manual (thanks Arthur) but, before I could clean anything, the printer decided to have a misfunction which insisted that the yellow cartridge was empty even when it was a new one (it did this to two new cartridges). Since this was the third Epson that had lasted less than 18 months, I decided never to get another Epson but to look for something made a little better.



My first thought went to the Kodak range, mainly due to their ink pricing policy but also due to the fact that I trusted their build quality as I used to work for Kodak and understood the thinking in the company. I selected the 5300 as being the best for me.



Delivery was quick and I was pleased to see that it came from Germany (the German factory used to produce the best items and was used for all the top of the range kit). The first thing I noticed was the weight; it was heavy. Much heavier than the old Epson printer and the Epson scanner (still working) combined.



I then ran some test prints, both "normal" printing and photographs. I also tested the scanner for quality. I always considered the output from Epson machines to be of very high quality, so I was pleasantly surprised that the Kodak surpassed the printing quality that I had become used to.



Only time will tell if the quality of the printing lasts and how reliable the printer proves to be. At the moment it is very early days but the only thing I can find to criticise is that the ink comes in only two tanks. It may work out a lot cheaper for the ink but I still don't like the idea of changing the colour cartridge because just one colour has run out.



Hi Art Is there any chance that you could send me a copy of the R265 Cleaning manual that you sent to Howard or steer me in the right direction to find it myself. tia Rob

You probably need it to combat the aftermarket ink.&nbsp; Any way the holy one should post it for download on his website but he will loose control and become less pious.
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Old 06-19-2008, 12:53 PM
Rene Lamontagne
 
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"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Arthur Entlich wrote:
>> Sorry to hear your Epson experience ended up in not being able to rescue
>> the printer.
>>


I see the Ink Pimp Mease****face is still here!!!

Rene

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Old 06-19-2008, 07:36 PM
Bampah
 
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On Jun 19, 1:13 pm, measekite <inkysti...@oem.com> wrote:
> Bampah wrote:On 18 Jun, 08:04, Arthur Entlich<e-printerh...@mvps.org>wrote:Sorry to hear your Epson experience ended up in not being able to rescue the printer. Although I haven't owned a Kodak printer, I have looked at the product carefully, and I too was quite pleased at the build quality. The types of materials used seemed to be well chosen and robust. The print quality was good, although the samples I saw seemed a bit overly saturated. Some of the sample printers I have tested had head clogged, but sample printers get abused. You are right that these models have not seen a great market penetration yet, which is unfortunate because they are a good solution to the ridiculous OEM ink prices usually encountered. The one thing that does worry me, is that Kodak seems to have been forced to lower their printer prices to compete with the other manufacturers, meaning they have probably cut their profits. Since they are working on a lower margin on the ink and paper, I just hope they can keep it economically sustainable for them. The printers should be more costly than they are if they hope to maintain the ink and paper prices at the costs they have. Keep us informed of your experience with the printer. If you can continue to recommend it, I am sure that kind of information will be helpful in encouraging others and perhaps more will sell. As to the ganged ink cartridges, don't assume that method wastes a lot of ink. Epson's single color cartridges don't really save ink, because each time you put in a new cartridge, all the ink heads are purged, and a lot of ink is wasted that way. If you have a number of cartridges close to needing replacement it may actually save ink to change them all at once, to avoid numerous purges of relatively new cartridges. With half a dozen or more inks, you can get into a vicious cycle of purging, running out of ink, purging again, etc. one after another. The secret to make ganged ink cartridges work best for the user is to place the colors of ink together which get used relatively evenly. For instance, the C M usually get used up at a very similar rate. Y usually is used more rapidly. LC and LM get used even more quickly, and black gets used the least in most photo applications, of course if a lot of black and white and black text is printed that changes things. So, with proper ganging of the colors and with using different capacities for specific colors, you may have less waste than when using individual color cartridges. Art If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste, I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/Howard Neil wrote:I have just bought one of these and thought I would let others know what it is like as I have seen precious little mention of them.I did have an Epson Stylus PhotoR265that was giving a problem. Arthur Entlich kindly sent me his excellent cleaning manual (thanks Arthur) but, before I could clean anything, the printer decided to have a misfunction which insisted that the yellow cartridge was empty even when it was a new one (it did this to two new cartridges). Since this was the third Epson that had lasted less than 18 months, I decided never to get another Epson but to look for something made a little better.My first thought went to the Kodak range, mainly due to their ink pricing policy but also due to the fact that I trusted their build quality as I used to work for Kodak and understood the thinking in the company. I selected the 5300 as being the best for me.Delivery was quick and I was pleased to see that it came from Germany (the German factory used to produce the best items and was used for all the top of the range kit). The first thing I noticed was the weight; it was heavy. Much heavier than the old Epson printer and the Epson scanner (still working) combined.I then ran some test prints, both "normal" printing and photographs. I also tested the scanner for quality. I always considered the output from Epson machines to be of very high quality, so I was pleasantly surprised that the Kodak surpassed the printing quality that I had become used to.Only time will tell if the quality of the printing lasts and how reliable the printer proves to be. At the moment it is very early days but the only thing I can find to criticise is that the ink comes in only two tanks. It may work out a lot cheaper for the ink but I still don't like the idea of changing the colour cartridge because just one colour has run out.Hi Art Is there any chance that you could send me a copy of the R265 Cleaning manual that you sent to Howard or steer me in the right direction to find it myself. tia RobYou probably need it to combat the aftermarket ink. Any way the holy one should post it for download on his website but he will loose control and become less pious.


Somehow I don't recall asking you for your comments or advice.
If I really did want your opinion, I'd ask my wife to spread her legs
and talk to you direct.
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Old 06-19-2008, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: Kodak 5300

You probably need it to combat the aftermarket ink. Any way the holy
one should post it for download on his website but he will loose
control and become less pious.

Somehow I don't recall asking you for your advice or assistance.
If I do need your opinion, I'll ask my wife to spread her legs and
talk to you direct.
BTW I'd expect you to know that there's only one 'o' in lose. After
all, it's spelled the in same way as loser which you must surely
recognise.

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