ink jet cartridge refill systems .. do they work??

The price of ink cartridges and how quickly they go through ink is
outrageous.

So I went ahead and purchased refillable ink cartridges from ebay for
my epson cx8400. I paid about $20 including shipping for 4 pre-filled
cartridges with no sponge inside.

Problem is .. they don't work.. leaking ink everywhere, missing spots,
colors all over the place.

After just a few days of playing around - maybe printed 50 sheets..
black and red cartridges are empty. Yellow looks completely full and
blue is about half full.

I tried to contact the seller but no response. Oddly, all his reviews
for the same product are great.

Thinking that maybe it was just the quality of his product, i search
for others, but when I look at other products they appear to be the
product.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ayphotohosting

Has anybody had any luck with refill cartridge systems? I'm tempted to
move away from a color jet and to a black only that I know can be
refilled.

Needless to say I will attempt to return this product.

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 08:02:18 -0700 (PDT), jc <wildman@noclient.net>
wrote:

>The price of ink cartridges and how quickly they go through ink is
>outrageous.
>
>So I went ahead and purchased refillable ink cartridges from ebay for
>my epson cx8400. I paid about $20 including shipping for 4 pre-filled
>cartridges with no sponge inside.
>
>Problem is .. they don't work.. leaking ink everywhere, missing spots,
>colors all over the place.
>
>After just a few days of playing around - maybe printed 50 sheets..
>black and red cartridges are empty. Yellow looks completely full and
>blue is about half full.
>
>I tried to contact the seller but no response. Oddly, all his reviews
>for the same product are great.
>
>Thinking that maybe it was just the quality of his product, i search
>for others, but when I look at other products they appear to be the
>product.
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ayphotohosting
>
>Has anybody had any luck with refill cartridge systems? I'm tempted to
>move away from a color jet and to a black only that I know can be
>refilled.
>
>Needless to say I will attempt to return this product.
>

I use bulk ink and have been refilling for 10 years successfully.
After about 5 refills, you notice less than perfect printing so have
to buy new.

I use syringes to refill HP cartridges - BEFORE THEY RUN OUT!!!! If
you wait until they run out, it fries the cartridge.

Refill cartridges sometimes work and sometimes don't.

jc wrote:
> The price of ink cartridges and how quickly they go through ink is
> outrageous.
>
> So I went ahead and purchased refillable ink cartridges from ebay for
> my epson cx8400. I paid about $20 including shipping for 4 pre-filled
> cartridges with no sponge inside.
>
Use it up rapidly. Do not let your printer sit or it will have a higher
risk of clogging than when using Epson ink.

The final photo results is nowhere near as good unless your taste if far
from fussy and the risk of fading is increased. Personally I would
never consider that and ebay is most likely the worst place to dabble in
the crappy cheapo inks.
> Problem is .. they don't work.. leaking ink everywhere, missing spots,
> colors all over the place.
>
Just like I suspected. I have been saying they are no good but what you
got from crappy ebay is the worst the communists have to offer.
> After just a few days of playing around - maybe printed 50 sheets..
> black and red cartridges are empty. Yellow looks completely full and
> blue is about half full.
>
Sounds like you got a great deal. Epson should be looking better now.
> I tried to contact the seller but no response.
What do you expect from the fly by niters.
> Oddly, all his reviews
> for the same product are great.
>
Guess who wrote them. The seller and a few of his friends and many of
the idiots you will find in this ng for they are really plants. And
when you say either anything bad about the generics or something good
about OEM ink they go bizerk.
> Thinking that maybe it was just the quality of his product, i search
> for others, but when I look at other products they appear to be the
> product.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ayphotohosting
>
> Has anybody had any luck with refill cartridge systems?
Beware of any positive responses in this ng, In a couple of years I
have seen them and then read about users posting responses like you did
but to be honest your experience is worse. However many had their
printers totally clogged.

Here is the problem.

1. Many different vendors sell the same exact crap from the same crappy
chinese sources under their own name and will not tell you what they are
selling so nobody can really track the record of these products.

2. Most vendors do not dislcose what they are selling and the few that
comply do not do that properly.

3. The vendors can change their sources at any time to make more money
and will not tell you when they do so if you get something for them that
you think is ok on one order may be something that can ruin your printer
on the next order.

4. You run the risk of increased fading down the line.

5. If you eye is not that discerning you may not be able to tell lower
quality in all cases.

6t. The color may not be accurate but you may not care about that.

7. Customer service may not be great. I think you found that out.


> I'm tempted to
> move away from a color jet and to a black only that I know can be
> refilled.
>
> Needless to say I will attempt to return this product.
>
>
>

Duff2 wrote:

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 08:02:18 -0700 (PDT), jc &lt;wildman@noclient.net&gt; wrote:



The price of ink cartridges and how quickly they go through ink is outrageous. So I went ahead and purchased refillable ink cartridges from ebay for my epson cx8400. I paid about $20 including shipping for 4 pre-filled cartridges with no sponge inside. Problem is .. they don't work.. leaking ink everywhere, missing spots, colors all over the place. After just a few days of playing around - maybe printed 50 sheets.. black and red cartridges are empty. Yellow looks completely full and blue is about half full. I tried to contact the seller but no response. Oddly, all his reviews for the same product are great. Thinking that maybe it was just the quality of his product, i search for others, but when I look at other products they appear to be the product. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;rd=1&amp;item=270245316 499&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&amp;ih=017#ebaypho tohosting Has anybody had any luck with refill cartridge systems? I'm tempted to move away from a color jet and to a black only that I know can be refilled. Needless to say I will attempt to return this product.



I use bulk ink and have been refilling for 10 years successfully. After about 5 refills, you notice less than perfect printing so have to buy new.

If one look at it the right way you notice that immediately.&nbsp; Then comes the fading.

One has to beware of the In Da Business Responses in this ng.


I use syringes to refill HP cartridges - BEFORE THEY RUN OUT!!!! If you wait until they run out, it fries the cartridge. Refill cartridges sometimes work and sometimes don't.

There you go.

On Jun 21, 12:14 pm, Duff2 <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> I use bulk ink and have been refilling for 10 years successfully.
> After about 5 refills, you notice less than perfect printing so have

problem is a lot of manufacturers (like epson) have a chip to only
allow so many pages to print. It's part of the giant scam that allows
them to sell you a printer for $70 and cartridges for $30.

These cartridges had no spounges which i guess is part of the problem
with smearing. Problems where beyond poor quality, it's simply
spitting out crap.

I'm sending them back. my loss, shipping costs.

I would still like to find a new black ink printer that I can refill
and use to make copies?

On Jun 21, 12:14 pm, Duff2 <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

> I use bulk ink and have been refilling for 10 years successfully.
> After about 5 refills, you notice less than perfect printing so have
> to buy new.
>
> I use syringes to refill HP cartridges - BEFORE THEY RUN OUT!!!! If
> you wait until they run out, it fries the cartridge.
>
> Refill cartridges sometimes work and sometimes don't.

What new models do you recommend? If it's got a chip it can be
problematic. Where can I get good bulk ink?'

Does anybody still make a black only jet? Any without a chip?

Laser printers are expensive and toner even more so.

Thanks.

jc wrote:

On Jun 21, 12:14 pm, Duff2 &lt;m...@privacy.net&gt; wrote:



I use bulk ink and have been refilling for 10 years successfully. After about 5 refills, you notice less than perfect printing so have



problem is a lot of manufacturers (like epson) have a chip to only allow so many pages to print. It's part of the giant scam that allows them to sell you a printer for $70 and cartridges for $30. These cartridges had no spounges which i guess is part of the problem with smearing. Problems where beyond poor quality, it's simply spitting out crap.

just like i said


I'm sending them back. my loss, shipping costs. I would still like to find a new black ink printer that I can refill and use to make copies?

you haven't learned your lesson yet?

jc wrote:
> On Jun 21, 12:14 pm, Duff2 <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>
>> I use bulk ink and have been refilling for 10 years successfully.
>> After about 5 refills, you notice less than perfect printing so have
>> to buy new.
>>
>> I use syringes to refill HP cartridges - BEFORE THEY RUN OUT!!!! If
>> you wait until they run out, it fries the cartridge.
>>
>> Refill cartridges sometimes work and sometimes don't.
>>
>
> What new models do you recommend? If it's got a chip it can be
> problematic. Where can I get good bulk ink?'
>
Pantone but only for Epson printers last I checked.
> Does anybody still make a black only jet?
They usually have solver trim or are a combination of black and grey.
> Any without a chip?
>
None have chips. The cartridges have the chips.
> Laser printers are expensive and toner even more so.
>
Laser printers are not expensive and cheaper to run. A monochrome laser
is very inexpensive.
> Thanks.
>

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:48:43 -0700 (PDT), jc <wildman@noclient.net>
wrote:

>On Jun 21, 12:14 pm, Duff2 <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> I use bulk ink and have been refilling for 10 years successfully.
>> ....
>> Refill cartridges sometimes work and sometimes don't.
>
>What new models do you recommend? If it's got a chip it can be
>problematic. Where can I get good bulk ink?'
>
>Does anybody still make a black only jet? Any without a chip?
>Laser printers are expensive and toner even more so.
>Thanks.

I attribute my success on refills to starting with a good bulk ink
supplier who can match their special inks to each cartridge. It is
critical because one size does not fit all.

The best supplier I've found is Annie Wells at:

http://www.ink-etc.com/hp-bulk_inks.html

All the brands are good. I love HP and dislike Epson, but I'm now
trying an older Canon and like it so far, maybe better than the
others.

If I were buying, I 'd just browse the Refill Kits first and then buy
the printer based on speed/cost and what cartridge it uses. Like I
said, they are all good. Read the refill instructions very carefully.

Good Luck.

On Jun 21, 7:31 pm, Frank <f...@jhy.clr> wrote:
> measekite wrote:
>
> > jc wrote:
>
> >>On Jun 21, 12:14 pm, Duff2 <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >>> I use bulk ink and have been refilling for 10 years successfully.
> >>>After about 5 refills, you notice less than perfect printing so have
>
> >>problem is a lot of manufacturers (like epson) have a chip to only
> >>allow so many pages to print. It's part of the giant scam that allows
> >>them to sell you a printer for $70 and cartridges for $30.
>
> >>These cartridges had no spounges which i guess is part of the problem
> >>with smearing. Problems where beyond poor quality, it's simply
> >>spitting out crap.
>
> > just like i said
>
> You're a liar!
>
>
>
> >>I'm sending them back. my loss, shipping costs.
>
> >>I would still like to find a new black ink printer that I can refill
> >>and use to make copies?
>
> > you haven't learned your lesson yet?
>
> Still posting in HTML.
> You're a selfish piece of ****, austrian fascist bigoted atheist asshole
> loser.

who are you talking to?
Have you nothing better to do?