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Old 05-24-2008, 05:46 AM
Brendan R. Wehrung
 
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Default If an all-in-one isn't enough, what?

I'm looking for suggestions on what to buy to equip a small office. Right
now it's getting by with an old HP printer that works sometimes, and an
old fax machine that doubles as a copier (up to 10 sets of pages at a
time). Aside from weekly office printing from the computer (spreadsheets
for schedules, ect.) there are applications for events (runs of up to
200), stall leases (runs of 50 or so--it's a farmers market), and copies
at any time. Add to that the future need for 2-sided brochures. The main
use of the scanner would be for copies, but needed for occasionaly
graphics uses.

I've advised against an ink-jet based all-in-one because of cost for large
runs and full-color brochures. A color-laser-based all-in-one seems like
a better choice, but I'm not sure they are really made for week-after-week
output like we expect to see. And there's the need for copies at any
time, even when the computer isn't on. There are larger copiers that can
handle the other tasks, but probably beyond our budget. We really need
equipment tht can sit on a counter, and it has to be very reliable.

Anybody got a suggestion? One that occured to me is an all-in-one backed
up by a color lazer. Our library has a Dell that never seems to break
down and makes thousands of (mostly black and white) prints a week. It
has a seperate drum from the toner carts so consumables are reasonable to
replace.

Brendan
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Old 05-24-2008, 01:45 PM
Elmo P. Shagnasty
 
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Default Re: If an all-in-one isn't enough, what?

In article <g186jm$ml8$1@theodyn.ncf.ca>,
ck183@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Brendan R. Wehrung) wrote:

> A color-laser-based all-in-one seems like
> a better choice, but I'm not sure they are really made for week-after-week
> output like we expect to see. And there's the need for copies at any
> time, even when the computer isn't on. There are larger copiers that can
> handle the other tasks, but probably beyond our budget. We really need
> equipment tht can sit on a counter, and it has to be very reliable.


I don't know why you think a color laser AIO is somehow not made for the
output you have.

I have a Xerox Phaser 6180 color laser that I bought the moment it came
out, last March. Complete with duplex capability. It currently has 17K
impressions on it. No problems. Easy to use, very small footprint.
Fast to process, fast to print.

It is now available in an AIO configuration:

http://tinyurl.com/2h4rcl

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Old 05-25-2008, 01:34 AM
Stryker
 
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Default Re: If an all-in-one isn't enough, what?



"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-5C0AA9.08452324052008@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <g186jm$ml8$1@theodyn.ncf.ca>,
> ck183@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Brendan R. Wehrung) wrote:
>
>> A color-laser-based all-in-one seems like
>> a better choice, but I'm not sure they are really made for
>> week-after-week
>> output like we expect to see. And there's the need for copies at any
>> time, even when the computer isn't on. There are larger copiers that can
>> handle the other tasks, but probably beyond our budget. We really need
>> equipment tht can sit on a counter, and it has to be very reliable.

>
> I don't know why you think a color laser AIO is somehow not made for the
> output you have.
>
> I have a Xerox Phaser 6180 color laser that I bought the moment it came
> out, last March. Complete with duplex capability. It currently has 17K
> impressions on it. No problems. Easy to use, very small footprint.
> Fast to process, fast to print.


I agree... laser printers are normally made for high output... For many
prints monthly I would suggest a laser printer... if you do a few prints a
day... then the most you would need is a inkjet. you talk as though you
would require a laser printer to do the job..... for many prints it saves to
buy laser... the toner for a laser is cheaper than the ink for an inkjet in
the long run. HP would work fine for this.

Stryker®

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Old 05-25-2008, 03:16 AM
Tony
 
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Default Re: If an all-in-one isn't enough, what?

ck183@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Brendan R. Wehrung) wrote:
>I'm looking for suggestions on what to buy to equip a small office. Right
>now it's getting by with an old HP printer that works sometimes, and an
>old fax machine that doubles as a copier (up to 10 sets of pages at a
>time). Aside from weekly office printing from the computer (spreadsheets
>for schedules, ect.) there are applications for events (runs of up to
>200), stall leases (runs of 50 or so--it's a farmers market), and copies
>at any time. Add to that the future need for 2-sided brochures. The main
>use of the scanner would be for copies, but needed for occasionaly
>graphics uses.
>
>I've advised against an ink-jet based all-in-one because of cost for large
>runs and full-color brochures. A color-laser-based all-in-one seems like
>a better choice, but I'm not sure they are really made for week-after-week
>output like we expect to see. And there's the need for copies at any
>time, even when the computer isn't on. There are larger copiers that can
>handle the other tasks, but probably beyond our budget. We really need
>equipment tht can sit on a counter, and it has to be very reliable.
>
>Anybody got a suggestion? One that occured to me is an all-in-one backed
>up by a color lazer. Our library has a Dell that never seems to break
>down and makes thousands of (mostly black and white) prints a week. It
>has a seperate drum from the toner carts so consumables are reasonable to
>replace.
>
>Brendan


Brendan
As others have suggested a laser printer seems to be the right choice for you,
they are generally capable of printing more pages in their lifetime than
inkjets. However be sure you know the full cost of running a laser printer. You
need to allow for the cost of replacing toner cartridges or solid ink supplies
as well as a drum unit (some models) and possibly a transfer belt and/or fuser.
Overall most laser printers are cheaper to run than inkjets although some of
the HP Office Jet models have very competitive costs per page and some are as
fast as entry to mid range laser printers. All-in-one lasers are not however
cheap to buy. The sums need to be done carefully.

Tony
MS MVP Printing/Imaging

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Old 05-28-2008, 07:06 AM
Bob Headrick
 
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Default Re: If an all-in-one isn't enough, what?


"Brendan R. Wehrung" <ck183@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
news:g186jm$ml8$1@theodyn.ncf.ca...
> I'm looking for suggestions on what to buy to equip a small office. Right

[snip]
> I've advised against an ink-jet based all-in-one because of cost for large
> runs and full-color brochures. A color-laser-based all-in-one seems like
> a better choice, but I'm not sure they are really made for week-after-week
> output like we expect to see. And there's the need for copies at any
> time, even when the computer isn't on. There are larger copiers that can
> handle the other tasks, but probably beyond our budget. We really need
> equipment tht can sit on a counter, and it has to be very reliable.


You might take a look at the HP Officejet L7680, see
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/sh...ABA&catLevel=2

This unit claims lower operating costs then color laser printers when using
the 88XL large cartridges and is rated at a duty cycle of 7500 pages per
month. See
http://h10060.www1.hp.com/pageyield/...700/index.html
for page yield information for this printer or
http://h10060.www1.hp.com/pageyield/...700/index.html
for page yield information for other HP printers.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging


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