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Old 06-09-2008, 01:33 PM
DGD
 
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Default HP Photosmart C7250 All-in-one Printer Issues

I have had a series of problems with this printer. The latest
included the printer continuously transmitting wirelessly to computers
set up to use it as a wireless printer. The printer, for some reason,
continuously transmits to associated computers. The computers'
wireless adapters are recieving transmissions every 1-2 seconds, even
though there are no printing activities going on. If i turn the
printer or the printer's radio off, all of the communication I see on
the computers' wireless adapters goes away. Had a frustrating
online chat with a tech support rep from HP who insisted this is
normal wireless behaviour. If there are no print requests being made,
why is the printer constantly communicating with the computers (I am
getting a transmission indication every 1 - 2 seconds). And it is the
printer. I disabled all HP running processes on one computer and the
transmissions continued. They only stopped when i turned the
printer's radio off. Any ideas out there on what to do apart from
returning the printer? HP's recommendation was to turn the printer's
radio off and only turn it on when I wanted to print. I have four
computers spread out throughout the house, but I won't be installing
the printer on the remaining two printers. Has anyone seen this
behaviour on their wireless printers. Is it a HP characteristic or do
all wireless printers to this? Thanks.


Doug
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Old 06-10-2008, 02:23 PM
andmalc
 
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Default Re: HP Photosmart C7250 All-in-one Printer Issues

On Jun 9, 8:33*am, DGD <ddubow...@rogers.com> wrote:
> I have had a series of problems with this printer. *The latest
> included the printer continuously transmitting wirelessly to computers
> set up to use it as a wireless printer. *The printer, for some reason,
> continuously transmits to associated computers. *The computers'
> wireless adapters are recieving transmissions every 1-2 seconds, even
> though there are no printing activities going on. *If i turn the
> printer or the printer's radio off, all of the communication I see on
> the computers' wireless adapters goes away. * *Had a frustrating
> online chat with a tech support rep from HP who insisted this is
> normal wireless behaviour. *If there are no print requests being made,
> why is the printer constantly communicating with the computers (I am
> getting a transmission indication every 1 - 2 seconds). *And it is the
> printer. *I disabled all HP running processes on one computer and the
> transmissions continued. *They only stopped when i turned the
> printer's radio off. *Any ideas out there on what to do apart from
> returning the printer? *HP's recommendation was to turn the printer's
> radio off and only turn it on when I wanted to print. *I have four
> computers spread out throughout the house, but I won't be installing
> the printer on the remaining two printers. *Has anyone seen this
> behaviour on their wireless printers. *Is it a HP characteristic or do
> all wireless printers to this? *Thanks.
>
> Doug


You could try turning off the feature that has the printer tell other
network devices where/what it is.

In a web browser, type the printer's IP address in the address bar.
You'll see a page of information on the printer and some tabs at the
top. I recall there's a network tab and a wireless section in there.
Disable mDNS (the protocol for Mac/Linux) and there's another one for
Windows (can't remember what its called).

You could also measure how much traffic this communication is creating
- is it really a load on the network or causing unneeded activity on
your computers?
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:01 PM
DGD
 
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Default Re: HP Photosmart C7250 All-in-one Printer Issues

On Jun 10, 9:23*am, andmalc <andm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 9, 8:33*am, DGD <ddubow...@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I have had a series of problems with this printer. *The latest
> > included the printer continuously transmitting wirelessly to computers
> > set up to use it as a wireless printer. *The printer, for some reason,
> > continuously transmits to associated computers. *The computers'
> > wireless adapters are recieving transmissions every 1-2 seconds, even
> > though there are no printing activities going on. *If i turn the
> > printer or the printer's radio off, all of the communication I see on
> > the computers' wireless adapters goes away. * *Had a frustrating
> > online chat with a tech support rep from HP who insisted this is
> > normal wireless behaviour. *If there are no print requests being made,
> > why is the printer constantly communicating with the computers (I am
> > getting a transmission indication every 1 - 2 seconds). *And it is the
> > printer. *I disabled all HP running processes on one computer and the
> > transmissions continued. *They only stopped when i turned the
> > printer's radio off. *Any ideas out there on what to do apart from
> > returning the printer? *HP's recommendation was to turn the printer's
> > radio off and only turn it on when I wanted to print. *I have four
> > computers spread out throughout the house, but I won't be installing
> > the printer on the remaining two printers. *Has anyone seen this
> > behaviour on their wireless printers. *Is it a HP characteristic or do
> > all wireless printers to this? *Thanks.

>
> > Doug

>
> You could try turning off the feature that has the printer tell other
> network devices where/what it is.
>
> In a web browser, type the printer's IP address in the address bar.
> You'll see a page of information on the printer and some tabs at the
> top. *I recall there's a network tab and a wireless section in there.
> Disable mDNS (the protocol for Mac/Linux) and there's another one for
> Windows (can't remember what its called).
>
> You could also measure how much traffic this communication is creating
> - is it really a load on the network or causing unneeded activity on
> your computers?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Thanks for the feedback. Where does one find the feature that has the
printer tell other network devices where/what it is and what is it
called? I have a Mac laptop and three Windows computers hooked up on
this network. The MAC and two Windows computers have the HP all-in-
one printer drivers and managment software installed. This constant
transmission from the printer is causing unneeded activity on the
Windows computers and their operation has become flaky since the
installation of the HP software. For instance, these computers will
not launch Internet Explorer until the HP digital monitoring sw has
completely loaded. Re-boot times are now getting ridiculously long
waiting for these programs to load.

Is anyone aware of a specific HP discussion board for printers? These
products have been out for a while and I find it hard to believe I am
the only one experiencing these issues. thanks

Doug
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Old 06-10-2008, 08:45 PM
Tony
 
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Default Re: HP Photosmart C7250 All-in-one Printer Issues

DGD <ddubowski@rogers.com> wrote:
On Jun 10, 9:23*am, andmalc <andm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 9, 8:33*am, DGD <ddubow...@rogers.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > I have had a series of problems with this printer. *The latest
>> > included the printer continuously transmitting wirelessly to computers
>> > set up to use it as a wireless printer. *The printer, for some reason,
>> > continuously transmits to associated computers. *The computers'
>> > wireless adapters are recieving transmissions every 1-2 seconds, even
>> > though there are no printing activities going on. *If i turn the
>> > printer or the printer's radio off, all of the communication I see on
>> > the computers' wireless adapters goes away. * *Had a frustrating
>> > online chat with a tech support rep from HP who insisted this is
>> > normal wireless behaviour. *If there are no print requests being made,
>> > why is the printer constantly communicating with the computers (I am
>> > getting a transmission indication every 1 - 2 seconds). *And it is the
>> > printer. *I disabled all HP running processes on one computer and the
>> > transmissions continued. *They only stopped when i turned the
>> > printer's radio off. *Any ideas out there on what to do apart from
>> > returning the printer? *HP's recommendation was to turn the printer's
>> > radio off and only turn it on when I wanted to print. *I have four
>> > computers spread out throughout the house, but I won't be installing
>> > the printer on the remaining two printers. *Has anyone seen this
>> > behaviour on their wireless printers. *Is it a HP characteristic or do
>> > all wireless printers to this? *Thanks.

>>
>> > Doug

>>
>> You could try turning off the feature that has the printer tell other
>> network devices where/what it is.
>>
>> In a web browser, type the printer's IP address in the address bar.
>> You'll see a page of information on the printer and some tabs at the
>> top. *I recall there's a network tab and a wireless section in there.
>> Disable mDNS (the protocol for Mac/Linux) and there's another one for
>> Windows (can't remember what its called).
>>
>> You could also measure how much traffic this communication is creating
>> - is it really a load on the network or causing unneeded activity on
>> your computers?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
>Thanks for the feedback. Where does one find the feature that has the
>printer tell other network devices where/what it is and what is it
>called? I have a Mac laptop and three Windows computers hooked up on
>this network. The MAC and two Windows computers have the HP all-in-
>one printer drivers and managment software installed. This constant
>transmission from the printer is causing unneeded activity on the
>Windows computers and their operation has become flaky since the
>installation of the HP software. For instance, these computers will
>not launch Internet Explorer until the HP digital monitoring sw has
>completely loaded. Re-boot times are now getting ridiculously long
>waiting for these programs to load.
>
>Is anyone aware of a specific HP discussion board for printers? These
>products have been out for a while and I find it hard to believe I am
>the only one experiencing these issues. thanks


Doug
Try
http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/...84180+28353475
You need to register (free) and post your question in the appropriate category.
There are some excellent people there, bear in mind that it is voluntary and
most of the contributors do not work for HP but are printer support
professionals.
Tony
MS MVP Printing/Imaging

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Old 06-10-2008, 09:55 PM
DGD
 
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Default Re: HP Photosmart C7250 All-in-one Printer Issues

On Jun 10, 3:45 pm, Tony <tonythebengalti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> DGD <ddubow...@rogers.com> wrote:
>
> On Jun 10, 9:23 am, andmalc <andm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >> On Jun 9, 8:33 am, DGD <ddubow...@rogers.com> wrote:

>
> >> > I have had a series of problems with this printer. The latest
> >> > included the printer continuously transmitting wirelessly to computers
> >> > set up to use it as a wireless printer. The printer, for some reason,
> >> > continuously transmits to associated computers. The computers'
> >> > wireless adapters are recieving transmissions every 1-2 seconds, even
> >> > though there are no printing activities going on. If i turn the
> >> > printer or the printer's radio off, all of the communication I see on
> >> > the computers' wireless adapters goes away. Had a frustrating
> >> > online chat with a tech support rep from HP who insisted this is
> >> > normal wireless behaviour. If there are no print requests being made,
> >> > why is the printer constantly communicating with the computers (I am
> >> > getting a transmission indication every 1 - 2 seconds). And it is the
> >> > printer. I disabled all HP running processes on one computer and the
> >> > transmissions continued. They only stopped when i turned the
> >> > printer's radio off. Any ideas out there on what to do apart from
> >> > returning the printer? HP's recommendation was to turn the printer's
> >> > radio off and only turn it on when I wanted to print. I have four
> >> > computers spread out throughout the house, but I won't be installing
> >> > the printer on the remaining two printers. Has anyone seen this
> >> > behaviour on their wireless printers. Is it a HP characteristic or do
> >> > all wireless printers to this? Thanks.

>
> >> > Doug

>
> >> You could try turning off the feature that has the printer tell other
> >> network devices where/what it is.

>
> >> In a web browser, type the printer's IP address in the address bar.
> >> You'll see a page of information on the printer and some tabs at the
> >> top. I recall there's a network tab and a wireless section in there.
> >> Disable mDNS (the protocol for Mac/Linux) and there's another one for
> >> Windows (can't remember what its called).

>
> >> You could also measure how much traffic this communication is creating
> >> - is it really a load on the network or causing unneeded activity on
> >> your computers?- Hide quoted text -

>
> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> >Thanks for the feedback. Where does one find the feature that has the
> >printer tell other network devices where/what it is and what is it
> >called? I have a Mac laptop and three Windows computers hooked up on
> >this network. The MAC and two Windows computers have the HP all-in-
> >one printer drivers and managment software installed. This constant
> >transmission from the printer is causing unneeded activity on the
> >Windows computers and their operation has become flaky since the
> >installation of the HP software. For instance, these computers will
> >not launch Internet Explorer until the HP digital monitoring sw has
> >completely loaded. Re-boot times are now getting ridiculously long
> >waiting for these programs to load.

>
> >Is anyone aware of a specific HP discussion board for printers? These
> >products have been out for a while and I find it hard to believe I am
> >the only one experiencing these issues. thanks

>
> Doug
> Tryhttp://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/familyhome.do?f...
> You need to register (free) and post your question in the appropriate category.
> There are some excellent people there, bear in mind that it is voluntary and
> most of the contributors do not work for HP but are printer support
> professionals.
> Tony
> MS MVP Printing/Imaging


Thanks for the link. I'll certainly give it a try. I'm really curios
to find out why this wireless printer is acting the way it does. I
have never seen any other wireless device act this way.
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Old 06-11-2008, 03:59 PM
Arthur Entlich
 
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Default Re: HP Photosmart C7250 All-in-one Printer Issues

I think your printer is lonely and looking for friends. It's not easy
being a lone printer among a bunch of computers. You get very little
respect as a printer these days. As soon at the toner or ink cartridges
run out, you often just end up in a closet or basement, or worse still,
the garbage.

With such a short lifespan, printers feel the need to talk a lot, try to
open up lines of communications, and hope to meet someone with similar
interests nearby. They want to feel needed, so they are constantly
asking the computers, "hey, I'm still here, got anything for me to
print, huh?, huh?"

It's sad, and to make things even worse, you're threatening to send it
back to the store in a box, just because it wants some love. Just put
yourself in its paper tray and see how you'd feel.


Art

If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:

http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/

DGD wrote:
> I have had a series of problems with this printer. The latest
> included the printer continuously transmitting wirelessly to computers
> set up to use it as a wireless printer. The printer, for some reason,
> continuously transmits to associated computers. The computers'
> wireless adapters are recieving transmissions every 1-2 seconds, even
> though there are no printing activities going on. If i turn the
> printer or the printer's radio off, all of the communication I see on
> the computers' wireless adapters goes away. Had a frustrating
> online chat with a tech support rep from HP who insisted this is
> normal wireless behaviour. If there are no print requests being made,
> why is the printer constantly communicating with the computers (I am
> getting a transmission indication every 1 - 2 seconds). And it is the
> printer. I disabled all HP running processes on one computer and the
> transmissions continued. They only stopped when i turned the
> printer's radio off. Any ideas out there on what to do apart from
> returning the printer? HP's recommendation was to turn the printer's
> radio off and only turn it on when I wanted to print. I have four
> computers spread out throughout the house, but I won't be installing
> the printer on the remaining two printers. Has anyone seen this
> behaviour on their wireless printers. Is it a HP characteristic or do
> all wireless printers to this? Thanks.
>
>
> Doug

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Old 06-11-2008, 04:11 PM
measekite
 
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Default Re: HP Photosmart C7250 All-in-one Printer Issues



Arthur Entlich wrote:
> I think your printer is lonely and looking for friends. It's not easy
> being a lone printer

It wasa not easy being The Lone Ranger either.
> among a bunch of computers. You get very little respect as a printer
> these days. As soon at the toner or ink cartridges run out, you often
> just end up in a closet or basement, or worse still, the garbage.
>
> With such a short lifespan, printers feel the need to talk a lot,

Gee you must be the only one that hears printers.
> try to open up lines of communications, and hope to meet someone with
> similar interests nearby. They want to feel needed,

My printer does not feel needed it just prints.
> o they are constantly asking the computers, "hey, I'm still here, got
> anything for me to print, huh?, huh?"
>
> It's sad, and to make things even worse, you're threatening to send it
> back to the store in a box, just because it wants some love.

Don't worry you do not have to love your printer.
> Just put yourself in its paper tray and see how you'd feel.
>
>
> Art
>
> If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
> I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:
>
> http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/
>
> DGD wrote:
>> I have had a series of problems with this printer. The latest
>> included the printer continuously transmitting wirelessly to computers
>> set up to use it as a wireless printer. The printer, for some reason,
>> continuously transmits to associated computers. The computers'
>> wireless adapters are recieving transmissions every 1-2 seconds, even
>> though there are no printing activities going on. If i turn the
>> printer or the printer's radio off, all of the communication I see on
>> the computers' wireless adapters goes away. Had a frustrating
>> online chat with a tech support rep from HP who insisted this is
>> normal wireless behaviour. If there are no print requests being made,
>> why is the printer constantly communicating with the computers (I am
>> getting a transmission indication every 1 - 2 seconds). And it is the
>> printer. I disabled all HP running processes on one computer and the
>> transmissions continued. They only stopped when i turned the
>> printer's radio off. Any ideas out there on what to do apart from
>> returning the printer? HP's recommendation was to turn the printer's
>> radio off and only turn it on when I wanted to print. I have four
>> computers spread out throughout the house, but I won't be installing
>> the printer on the remaining two printers. Has anyone seen this
>> behaviour on their wireless printers. Is it a HP characteristic or do
>> all wireless printers to this? Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Doug

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Old 06-12-2008, 03:10 AM
DGD
 
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Default Re: HP Photosmart C7250 All-in-one Printer Issues

On Jun 11, 10:59 am, Arthur Entlich <e-printerh...@mvps.org> wrote:
> I think your printer is lonely and looking for friends. It's not easy
> being a lone printer among a bunch of computers. You get very little
> respect as a printer these days. As soon at the toner or ink cartridges
> run out, you often just end up in a closet or basement, or worse still,
> the garbage.
>
> With such a short lifespan, printers feel the need to talk a lot, try to
> open up lines of communications, and hope to meet someone with similar
> interests nearby. They want to feel needed, so they are constantly
> asking the computers, "hey, I'm still here, got anything for me to
> print, huh?, huh?"
>
> It's sad, and to make things even worse, you're threatening to send it
> back to the store in a box, just because it wants some love. Just put
> yourself in its paper tray and see how you'd feel.
>
> Art
>
> If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
> I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:
>
> http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/
>
> DGD wrote:
> > I have had a series of problems with this printer. The latest
> > included the printer continuously transmitting wirelessly to computers
> > set up to use it as a wireless printer. The printer, for some reason,
> > continuously transmits to associated computers. The computers'
> > wireless adapters are recieving transmissions every 1-2 seconds, even
> > though there are no printing activities going on. If i turn the
> > printer or the printer's radio off, all of the communication I see on
> > the computers' wireless adapters goes away. Had a frustrating
> > online chat with a tech support rep from HP who insisted this is
> > normal wireless behaviour. If there are no print requests being made,
> > why is the printer constantly communicating with the computers (I am
> > getting a transmission indication every 1 - 2 seconds). And it is the
> > printer. I disabled all HP running processes on one computer and the
> > transmissions continued. They only stopped when i turned the
> > printer's radio off. Any ideas out there on what to do apart from
> > returning the printer? HP's recommendation was to turn the printer's
> > radio off and only turn it on when I wanted to print. I have four
> > computers spread out throughout the house, but I won't be installing
> > the printer on the remaining two printers. Has anyone seen this
> > behaviour on their wireless printers. Is it a HP characteristic or do
> > all wireless printers to this? Thanks.

>
> > Doug


For Arthur,

Thanks so much for your insight and hijacking of this thread. If this
is what you are going to contribute, please don't.
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Old 06-12-2008, 03:22 AM
measekite
 
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Default Re: HP Photosmart C7250 All-in-one Printer Issues



DGD wrote:

On Jun 11, 10:59 am, Arthur Entlich &lt;e-printerh...@mvps.org&gt; wrote:



I think your printer is lonely and looking for friends. It's not easy being a lone printer among a bunch of computers. You get very little respect as a printer these days. As soon at the toner or ink cartridges run out, you often just end up in a closet or basement, or worse still, the garbage. With such a short lifespan, printers feel the need to talk a lot, try to open up lines of communications, and hope to meet someone with similar interests nearby. They want to feel needed, so they are constantly asking the computers, "hey, I'm still here, got anything for me to print, huh?, huh?" It's sad, and to make things even worse, you're threatening to send it back to the store in a box, just because it wants some love. Just put yourself in its paper tray and see how you'd feel. Art If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste, I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog: http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/ DGD wrote:



I have had a series of problems with this printer. The latest included the printer continuously transmitting wirelessly to computers set up to use it as a wireless printer. The printer, for some reason, continuously transmits to associated computers. The computers' wireless adapters are recieving transmissions every 1-2 seconds, even though there are no printing activities going on. If i turn the printer or the printer's radio off, all of the communication I see on the computers' wireless adapters goes away. Had a frustrating online chat with a tech support rep from HP who insisted this is normal wireless behaviour. If there are no print requests being made, why is the printer constantly communicating with the computers (I am getting a transmission indication every 1 - 2 seconds). And it is the printer. I disabled all HP running processes on one computer and the transmissions continued. They only stopped when i turned the printer's radio off. Any ideas out there on what to do apart from returning the printer? HP's recommendation was to turn the printer's radio off and only turn it on when I wanted to print. I have four computers spread out throughout the house, but I won't be installing the printer on the remaining two printers. Has anyone seen this behaviour on their wireless printers. Is it a HP characteristic or do all wireless printers to this? Thanks.



Doug



For Arthur, Thanks so much for your insight and hijacking of this thread. If this is what you are going to contribute, please don't.

Without a doubt I agree with the above statement.&nbsp; Get off the soap box with the holier than thou attitude.
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Old 06-13-2008, 01:57 PM
Arthur Entlich
 
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Dearest Doug,

I know words like "hijack" sound so officious in these days where
everyone is looking for a terrorist behind every potted plant, but I
hardly "hijacked" anything. Your query still remains for anyone wishing
to supply an answer more to your liking, or of more value, and I
certainly hope you encounter someone here who is willing to take the
time and effort to do so. In fact, if anything, my reply might have
allowed more people re read it since I quoted the whole thing in my reply.

I'm sorry that someone "hijacked" your sense of humor, and I hope it
finds it's way home eventually.

I certainly am quite willing to make a point of not contributing to any
more of your requests or queries in this newsgroup, as I wouldn't want
to add any further angst to your already obviously very harried life.

Art

If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:

http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/

DGD wrote:
> On Jun 11, 10:59 am, Arthur Entlich <e-printerh...@mvps.org> wrote:
>> I think your printer is lonely and looking for friends. It's not easy
>> being a lone printer among a bunch of computers. You get very little
>> respect as a printer these days. As soon at the toner or ink cartridges
>> run out, you often just end up in a closet or basement, or worse still,
>> the garbage.
>>
>> With such a short lifespan, printers feel the need to talk a lot, try to
>> open up lines of communications, and hope to meet someone with similar
>> interests nearby. They want to feel needed, so they are constantly
>> asking the computers, "hey, I'm still here, got anything for me to
>> print, huh?, huh?"
>>
>> It's sad, and to make things even worse, you're threatening to send it
>> back to the store in a box, just because it wants some love. Just put
>> yourself in its paper tray and see how you'd feel.
>>
>> Art
>>
>> If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste,
>> I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog:
>>
>> http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/
>>
>> DGD wrote:
>>> I have had a series of problems with this printer. The latest
>>> included the printer continuously transmitting wirelessly to computers
>>> set up to use it as a wireless printer. The printer, for some reason,
>>> continuously transmits to associated computers. The computers'
>>> wireless adapters are recieving transmissions every 1-2 seconds, even
>>> though there are no printing activities going on. If i turn the
>>> printer or the printer's radio off, all of the communication I see on
>>> the computers' wireless adapters goes away. Had a frustrating
>>> online chat with a tech support rep from HP who insisted this is
>>> normal wireless behaviour. If there are no print requests being made,
>>> why is the printer constantly communicating with the computers (I am
>>> getting a transmission indication every 1 - 2 seconds). And it is the
>>> printer. I disabled all HP running processes on one computer and the
>>> transmissions continued. They only stopped when i turned the
>>> printer's radio off. Any ideas out there on what to do apart from
>>> returning the printer? HP's recommendation was to turn the printer's
>>> radio off and only turn it on when I wanted to print. I have four
>>> computers spread out throughout the house, but I won't be installing
>>> the printer on the remaining two printers. Has anyone seen this
>>> behaviour on their wireless printers. Is it a HP characteristic or do
>>> all wireless printers to this? Thanks.
>>> Doug

>
> For Arthur,
>
> Thanks so much for your insight and hijacking of this thread. If this
> is what you are going to contribute, please don't.

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