My HP960cse inkjet has been good for me but has failed, I need to
replace it. Summary of needs:
- Just a printer - not multifunction; no need for LCD, memory
slots, duplexing, wide format, or networking
- Mostly light use printing text, occasional bouts of photo
printing on photo paper. Just for family photos - the 960 was
a general-purpose printer with just 4 ink colors yet its photos
looked good to me.
- No clogging - I may not use it for weeks
- No refills: I use only the manufacturer's ink carts and photo
paper
- Linux drivers with full capabilities
- Would like to spend less than $200, and have good cost per page
ConsumerSearch.com indicated the Canon iP4500 but it seems to
have incomplete Linux support per openprinting.org; the HP K5400
has good Linux support but some reviews at Amazon certainly give
pause.
Suggestions?
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"measekite" <inkystinky@oem.com> wrote in message
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> Canon IP3500 or Canon IP4500
>
> Xainin wrote:
>> My HP960cse inkjet has been good for me but has failed, I need to
>> replace it. Summary of needs:
>>
>> - Just a printer - not multifunction; no need for LCD, memory
>> slots, duplexing, wide format, or networking
>>
>> - Mostly light use printing text, occasional bouts of photo
>> printing on photo paper. Just for family photos - the 960 was
>> a general-purpose printer with just 4 ink colors yet its photos
>> looked good to me.
>>
>> - No clogging - I may not use it for weeks
>>
>> - No refills: I use only the manufacturer's ink carts and photo
>> paper
>>
>
> That is a good choice. I do not use my Canon to heavily. I sometimes let
> it sit for a couple of weeks. I have never had a clog in 4 years. The
> IP4500 is similar to my IP4000. In your case the IP4500 would be faster
> than the IP3500 and would recommend that over it.
>
> As for paper I use both Canon Photo Paper Pro and mostly Costco Kirkland.
> The Costco paper I bought was a couple of years ago (I purchased a great
> deal) and that was made in Switzerland. It is just as good as the Canon.
> Surprisingly I bought some paper from Surething.com (glossy 5x7) and found
> that to be very good. The finnish was smooth. I also use Epson
> Heavyweight Matte and I like that as well.
>
> The IP4500 has more than you ask but the price is not to high and the ink
> should be under $12 a cart.
>> - Linux drivers with full capabilities
>>
>
> None come with Linux out of the box drivers but you should be able to
> download Cups drivers for the IP4500 and get all of the features. You can
> also buy TurboPrint who has full featured drivers for the IP4500 and works
> with CUPS.
>> - Would like to spend less than $200, and have good cost per page
>>
> This should be around $100 when on sale or rebated.
>> ConsumerSearch.com indicated the Canon iP4500 but it seems to
>> have incomplete Linux support per openprinting.org;
> I do not think you will have a problem. You can also buy TurboPrint and
> that has drivers for all printers. But I think you will be OK using the
> CUPS drivers. It will then act like a Postscript printer and will also
> work with Gimp and Gutenprint.
>> the HP K5400
>> has good Linux support but some reviews at Amazon certainly give
>> pause.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>
> Canon IP4500 should be your first consideration.
I REALLY hate to sound as if I'm agreeing with measekite, but I'm very happy
with my Canon ip4300. Not sure if there is Linux support available. I
found a 'spare' ip4300 recently on Craigslist for $50 US, new, in the
original box. And if you want to print CD/DVD with the US version it's very
easy to find a CD tray on Ebay for about $15, then use documentation
included with the tray to tell the printer that it's actually being used in
Europe, voila! Prints CDs. Of course, there is no factory warranty for this
second printer, but for $50 (less than the cost of a set of original carts)
who cares?
Just to tweak measekite, this: I got the "Redsetter" from Germany and it
does work to reset the chips for refilling original carts or using non-OEM
carts. "Oh! Your prints won't last 100 years!" Who cares, even if that's
true. I'm not selling them, and I have all the original files, so I can
print another whenever I like.
On Jul 16, 2:35*am, Xainin <63f2-o...@dea.spamcon.org> wrote:
>
> ConsumerSearch.com indicated the Canon iP4500 but it seems to
> have incomplete Linux support per openprinting.org; the HP K5400
> has good Linux support but some reviews at Amazon certainly give
> pause.
I own both, but use them on XP.
The Canon iP4500 will clog when sitting for several weeks at a time,
but it is easy to repair through the drivers head cleaning feature.
This printer has a special Deep Clean which you may have to use if it
clogs really bad, I have only used this once and it uses alot of ink.
Something must be wrong with Canon ink for the printer to need 2 types
of cleaning. It prints very good pictures overall. Canon claims thier
ink is fade resistant...only time will tell.
For document printing the HP 5400 wins hands down. The print quality
is better and more professional. This printer is much faster than the
Canon. The cost to print is cheaper than the Canon using OEM inks. For
photos it great...I actually use it more than the Canon. The printer
never clogs even if I leave it off for a month...something I wouldn't
try with the Canon.
If I was to compare the 2, the HP 5400 is a better printer.
There is a chip resetter for the Canon so soon I will be using
aftermarket ink in this printer...and delegate it to a backup printer.
"Xainin" <63f2-oyik@dea.spamcon.org> wrote in message
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> My HP960cse inkjet has been good for me but has failed, I need to
> replace it.
I think the Deskjet 6940 would meet your needs well. It has similar
cartridge capacity (in pages per cartridge) as the full capacity #45 and #78
cartridges, and is much faster printing than the 960. The print quality
will be similar.
For a printer only used occasionally I would avoid a printer with separate
heads and ink supplies as the cleaning cycles (whether automatic or manual)
would likely use more ink than you would be printing on paper. This would
apply to either the Canon or K5400 products.
Regards,
Bob Headrick, Microsoft MVP Printing/Imaging
On Jul 17, 2:29*pm, "Bob Headrick" <b...@proaxis.com> wrote:
> I think the Deskjet 6940 would meet your needs well. *It has similar
> cartridge capacity (in pages per cartridge) as the full capacity #45 and #78
> cartridges, *and is much faster printing than the 960. *The print quality
> will be similar.
>
> Seehttp://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?landing=...
>
> For a printer only used occasionally I would avoid a printer with separate
> heads and ink supplies as the cleaning cycles (whether automatic or manual)
> would likely use more ink than you would be printing on paper. *This would
> apply to either the Canon or K5400 products.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Headrick, Microsoft MVP Printing/Imaging
Good suggestion...
Dose it work with Linux drivers? Hp website does not state it will.
Xainin <63f2-oyik@dea.spamcon.org> wrote:
>My HP960cse inkjet has been good for me but has failed, I need to
>replace it. Summary of needs:
>
>- Just a printer - not multifunction; no need for LCD, memory
> slots, duplexing, wide format, or networking
>
>- Mostly light use printing text, occasional bouts of photo
> printing on photo paper. Just for family photos - the 960 was
> a general-purpose printer with just 4 ink colors yet its photos
> looked good to me.
>
>- No clogging - I may not use it for weeks
>
>- No refills: I use only the manufacturer's ink carts and photo
> paper
>
>- Linux drivers with full capabilities
>
>- Would like to spend less than $200, and have good cost per page
>
>ConsumerSearch.com indicated the Canon iP4500 but it seems to
>have incomplete Linux support per openprinting.org; the HP K5400
>has good Linux support but some reviews at Amazon certainly give
>pause.
>
>Suggestions?
>
>--
>Young at Heart. Slightly Older in Other Places.
Please ignore Mister Measekite, he does not know the printers that Bob Headrick
has suggested, I do and they are both good choices.
Tony
MS MVP Printing/Imaging
"Hendo" <hendo@repairman.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 17, 2:29 pm, "Bob Headrick" <bobh@proaxis.com> wrote:
>
>> I think the Deskjet 6940 would meet your needs well. It has similar
>> cartridge capacity (in pages per cartridge) as the full capacity #45 and
>> #78
>> cartridges, and is much faster printing than the 960. The print quality
>> will be similar.
>
> Good suggestion...
>
> Does it work with Linux drivers? Hp website does not state it will.
On Jul 18, 12:53*am, "Bob Headrick" <b...@proaxis.com> wrote:
> "Hendo" <he...@repairman.com> wrote in message
>
> news:a2e2c94b-7a68-4452-bb5d-060285d6c23e@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Jul 17, 2:29 pm, "Bob Headrick" <b...@proaxis.com> wrote:
>
> >> I think the Deskjet 6940 would meet your needs well. It has similar
> >> cartridge capacity (in pages per cartridge) as the full capacity #45 and
> >> #78
> >> cartridges, and is much faster printing than the 960. The print quality
> >> will be similar.
>
> > Good suggestion...
>
> > Does it work with Linux drivers? Hp website does not state it will.
>
> The HP Drivers page for the DJ 6940 athttp://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareCategory?cc=us&dlc=en&prod...
> has a Linux link which leads tohttp://hplip.sourceforge.net/install/index..html
>
> http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_pr...skJet_6940says it
> works well with the HP supplied hpijs drivers.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Headrick, Microsoft MVP Printing/Imaging
>My HP960cse inkjet has been good for me but has failed, I need to
>replace it. Summary of needs:
>
>- Just a printer - not multifunction; no need for LCD, memory
> slots, duplexing, wide format, or networking
>
>- Mostly light use printing text, occasional bouts of photo
> printing on photo paper. Just for family photos - the 960 was
> a general-purpose printer with just 4 ink colors yet its photos
> looked good to me.
>
>- No clogging - I may not use it for weeks
>
>- No refills: I use only the manufacturer's ink carts and photo
> paper
>
>- Linux drivers with full capabilities
>
>- Would like to spend less than $200, and have good cost per page
>
>ConsumerSearch.com indicated the Canon iP4500 but it seems to
>have incomplete Linux support per openprinting.org; the HP K5400
>has good Linux support but some reviews at Amazon certainly give
>pause.
>
>Suggestions?
Thanks to everyone who responded. Surprisingly, the printer
"fixed itself". Just before my original post I had replaced both
cartridges and done multiple cleaning cycles to no avail. After
leaving it off for a couple weeks I happened to try it, and it
worked fine, and has been working fine since.
Nonetheless, it's getting long in the tooth, so I want to know
what to buy next. Based on what Bob said perhaps I should stick
to printers with the printheads in the cartridge.
At the store I looked at HP6940, HP4260 - both say different
carts for photo vs. non-photo printing. Is this just for more
perfect pics? I don't want to be swapping carts.
That is, the HP 960 had 1 black and 1 tri-color cartridge for all
uses and its photos were fine by me. Can I stick with one set of
normal non-photo carts and get as good results from these newer
printers?
--
Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
"Xainin" <63f2-oyik@dea.spamcon.org> wrote in message
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> At the store I looked at HP6940, HP4260 - both say different
> carts for photo vs. non-photo printing. Is this just for more
> perfect pics? I don't want to be swapping carts.
>
> That is, the HP 960 had 1 black and 1 tri-color cartridge for all
> uses and its photos were fine by me. Can I stick with one set of
> normal non-photo carts and get as good results from these newer
> printers?
Yes, with the color and black cartridges installed the print quality on
either will be similar to your current Deskjet 960. You have the option of
using the color and photo cartridges for better photo quality, which may be
particularly visible in photos with sky or facial where the color cartridge
alone may have a more grainy appearance.
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