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Old 07-30-2007, 03:04 PM
Ed Medlin
 
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Default Ping_Phil W. Striker Extreme OC

Finally got around to OC'ing this thing. I notice one thing right away,
and that is the cooler MB/NB temps. The board comes with a small fan for
cooling the NB HS that clips right on. It is silent so no noise problems.
The manual says you only need it for water cooling, but I would use it
anyway just to help keep the NB as cool as possible. My first attempt to
boot failed and I checked the small LCD on the back panel and it said "CPU
INIT". I immediately removed and cleaned the contacts on the bottom of the
E6600, reinstalled it and voila.......good post and boot into XP. I didn't
even do a repair install since it has the same basic chipset as the P5N32E.
I even managed to save my two raid arrays and data that I had already backed
up just in case. So, other than me 'most likely' getting a fingerprint on my
CPU.....:-) (I would never, ever do such a thing), everything went pretty
much flawlessly as far as the changeover. That little LCD could be a
lifesaver for troubleshooting post issues.
As far as overclocking, I went directly from 2.4ghz to 3.0ghz since I
knew my CPU would do that easily. It was completely stable there and I was
surprized That my memory speed, set auto, was at 1000......and very stable.
On the other board, my memory would not run at all over about 833. I
eventually got the CPU up to 3.2ghz and memory up to 1066 and that is where
I am now. I ran Memtest and Orthos with no issues and CPU temps stayed under
50c and MB at 39-41c. The MB comes with 3 thermistors that you can place
anywhere so I put one in the center of the case, one between memory HS and
module and the third I taped to a HDD in the center of the rack. Case temp
was 26c, memory under stress was 45c and HDD at 40c.
The new bios from a week or so ago supports all 1333 processors and
added better memory support and overclocking improvements for 1333
processors, so it claims. I flashed it and saw no difference for my system
at all. That is where I am now and I may try higher after I run at this
speed for awhile just to see if I have any issues.

Ed


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Old 07-31-2007, 11:24 PM
Phil Weldon
 
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Default Re: Ping_Phil W. Striker Extreme OC

'Ed Medlin' wrote:
| Finally got around to OC'ing this thing. I notice one thing right away,
| and that is the cooler MB/NB temps. The board comes with a small fan for
| cooling the NB HS that clips right on. It is silent so no noise problems.
| The manual says you only need it for water cooling, but I would use it
| anyway just to help keep the NB as cool as possible. My first attempt to
| boot failed and I checked the small LCD on the back panel and it said "CPU
| INIT". I immediately removed and cleaned the contacts on the bottom of the
| E6600, reinstalled it and voila.......good post and boot into XP. I didn't
| even do a repair install since it has the same basic chipset as the
P5N32E.
| I even managed to save my two raid arrays and data that I had already
backed
| up just in case. So, other than me 'most likely' getting a fingerprint on
my
| CPU.....:-) (I would never, ever do such a thing), everything went pretty
| much flawlessly as far as the changeover. That little LCD could be a
| lifesaver for troubleshooting post issues.
| As far as overclocking, I went directly from 2.4ghz to 3.0ghz since I
| knew my CPU would do that easily. It was completely stable there and I was
| surprized That my memory speed, set auto, was at 1000......and very
stable.
| On the other board, my memory would not run at all over about 833. I
| eventually got the CPU up to 3.2ghz and memory up to 1066 and that is
where
| I am now. I ran Memtest and Orthos with no issues and CPU temps stayed
under
| 50c and MB at 39-41c. The MB comes with 3 thermistors that you can place
| anywhere so I put one in the center of the case, one between memory HS
and
| module and the third I taped to a HDD in the center of the rack. Case temp
| was 26c, memory under stress was 45c and HDD at 40c.
| The new bios from a week or so ago supports all 1333 processors and
| added better memory support and overclocking improvements for 1333
| processors, so it claims. I flashed it and saw no difference for my system
| at all. That is where I am now and I may try higher after I run at this
| speed for awhile just to see if I have any issues.
_____

I'm jealous. I suppose your new motherboard reports on a lot of other
things more that two fan speeds and more than CPU and motherboard
temperature B^) I still can't find a reliable system monitor application
that will work with my EVA 680i even though the some of the system monitor
applications claim to recognize the Winbond chip used. I have had the best
results so far with 'Sensor View Pro 3.1 as it reports a temperature that
may from be the Northbridge chip. Of course I have to use a pretty hefty
temperature offset, but the results do track a different pattern of system
usage (as shown by Orthos) than the CPU or motherboard temperature.

I've flashed my BIOS three times with successive updates - never noticed a
change. At the moment I'm overclocking my E4300 / EVGA 680i / ThermalTake
i1 at 2.84 GHz (1420 MHz FSB, 8X multiplier) and stock CPU core voltage.
nVidia Control Panel (1.4.100.56) reports 3197.656 MHz with a 1598.828 MHz
FSB! However in 'Adjust Motherboard Settings' the CPU speed and FSB speed
is reported correctly.

I guess I'm going to be sticking with this for a while. Later this week,
when the Georgia sales tax holiday (8% where I live) kicks in, I will order
a Dell notebook with an nVidia 8600M GT. I need a notebook and it will give
me a look at Vista and DX10.

Phil Weldon



"Ed Medlin" <ed@edmedlin.com> wrote in message
news:Xdmri.53720$5j1.43528@newssvr21.news.prodigy. net...
| Finally got around to OC'ing this thing. I notice one thing right away,
| and that is the cooler MB/NB temps. The board comes with a small fan for
| cooling the NB HS that clips right on. It is silent so no noise problems.
| The manual says you only need it for water cooling, but I would use it
| anyway just to help keep the NB as cool as possible. My first attempt to
| boot failed and I checked the small LCD on the back panel and it said "CPU
| INIT". I immediately removed and cleaned the contacts on the bottom of the
| E6600, reinstalled it and voila.......good post and boot into XP. I didn't
| even do a repair install since it has the same basic chipset as the
P5N32E.
| I even managed to save my two raid arrays and data that I had already
backed
| up just in case. So, other than me 'most likely' getting a fingerprint on
my
| CPU.....:-) (I would never, ever do such a thing), everything went pretty
| much flawlessly as far as the changeover. That little LCD could be a
| lifesaver for troubleshooting post issues.
| As far as overclocking, I went directly from 2.4ghz to 3.0ghz since I
| knew my CPU would do that easily. It was completely stable there and I was
| surprized That my memory speed, set auto, was at 1000......and very
stable.
| On the other board, my memory would not run at all over about 833. I
| eventually got the CPU up to 3.2ghz and memory up to 1066 and that is
where
| I am now. I ran Memtest and Orthos with no issues and CPU temps stayed
under
| 50c and MB at 39-41c. The MB comes with 3 thermistors that you can place
| anywhere so I put one in the center of the case, one between memory HS
and
| module and the third I taped to a HDD in the center of the rack. Case temp
| was 26c, memory under stress was 45c and HDD at 40c.
| The new bios from a week or so ago supports all 1333 processors and
| added better memory support and overclocking improvements for 1333
| processors, so it claims. I flashed it and saw no difference for my system
| at all. That is where I am now and I may try higher after I run at this
| speed for awhile just to see if I have any issues.
|
| Ed
|
|


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Old 08-01-2007, 01:03 PM
Ed Medlin
 
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Default Re: Ping_Phil W. Striker Extreme OC


"Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed@example.com> wrote in message
news:SEOri.14355$zA4.9871@newsread3.news.pas.earth link.net...
> 'Ed Medlin' wrote:
> | Finally got around to OC'ing this thing. I notice one thing right away,
> | and that is the cooler MB/NB temps. The board comes with a small fan for
> | cooling the NB HS that clips right on. It is silent so no noise
> problems.
> | The manual says you only need it for water cooling, but I would use it
> | anyway just to help keep the NB as cool as possible. My first attempt to
> | boot failed and I checked the small LCD on the back panel and it said
> "CPU
> | INIT". I immediately removed and cleaned the contacts on the bottom of
> the
> | E6600, reinstalled it and voila.......good post and boot into XP. I
> didn't
> | even do a repair install since it has the same basic chipset as the
> P5N32E.
> | I even managed to save my two raid arrays and data that I had already
> backed
> | up just in case. So, other than me 'most likely' getting a fingerprint
> on
> my
> | CPU.....:-) (I would never, ever do such a thing), everything went
> pretty
> | much flawlessly as far as the changeover. That little LCD could be a
> | lifesaver for troubleshooting post issues.
> | As far as overclocking, I went directly from 2.4ghz to 3.0ghz since I
> | knew my CPU would do that easily. It was completely stable there and I
> was
> | surprized That my memory speed, set auto, was at 1000......and very
> stable.
> | On the other board, my memory would not run at all over about 833. I
> | eventually got the CPU up to 3.2ghz and memory up to 1066 and that is
> where
> | I am now. I ran Memtest and Orthos with no issues and CPU temps stayed
> under
> | 50c and MB at 39-41c. The MB comes with 3 thermistors that you can place
> | anywhere so I put one in the center of the case, one between memory HS
> and
> | module and the third I taped to a HDD in the center of the rack. Case
> temp
> | was 26c, memory under stress was 45c and HDD at 40c.
> | The new bios from a week or so ago supports all 1333 processors and
> | added better memory support and overclocking improvements for 1333
> | processors, so it claims. I flashed it and saw no difference for my
> system
> | at all. That is where I am now and I may try higher after I run at this
> | speed for awhile just to see if I have any issues.
> _____
>
> I'm jealous. I suppose your new motherboard reports on a lot of other
> things more that two fan speeds and more than CPU and motherboard
> temperature B^) I still can't find a reliable system monitor application
> that will work with my EVA 680i even though the some of the system monitor
> applications claim to recognize the Winbond chip used. I have had the
> best
> results so far with 'Sensor View Pro 3.1 as it reports a temperature that
> may from be the Northbridge chip. Of course I have to use a pretty hefty
> temperature offset, but the results do track a different pattern of system
> usage (as shown by Orthos) than the CPU or motherboard temperature.
>
> I've flashed my BIOS three times with successive updates - never noticed a
> change. At the moment I'm overclocking my E4300 / EVGA 680i / ThermalTake
> i1 at 2.84 GHz (1420 MHz FSB, 8X multiplier) and stock CPU core voltage.
> nVidia Control Panel (1.4.100.56) reports 3197.656 MHz with a 1598.828 MHz
> FSB! However in 'Adjust Motherboard Settings' the CPU speed and FSB speed
> is reported correctly.
>
> I guess I'm going to be sticking with this for a while. Later this week,
> when the Georgia sales tax holiday (8% where I live) kicks in, I will
> order
> a Dell notebook with an nVidia 8600M GT. I need a notebook and it will
> give
> me a look at Vista and DX10.
>
> Phil Weldon
>

Even after passing all the tests, I still had to lower my memory down to
966mhz becuase of one simulation I run would CTD at anything higher. Kind of
a weird problem. One issue with this board that is a known one is problems
with the 2 Ethernet controllers. I had problems with low transfer speeds and
even total disconnects on rare occaisions. I fixed that easily enough with a
PCI Gibabit adapter......:-). It wasn't helping me any sitting on the parts
shelf, so now I have only one PCI-E 8x slot left... The onboard sound is
very good so I guess I will survive. I am sure not going to go through
uninstalling and reinstalling another MB with all the crap I have in this
box.......:-). It is a real PIA.
I have been tempted to go back to Vista, but I haven't seen any good
reason to yet. It might serve you fine on your notebook. My last notebook
purchase was about the time Vista was released and XP ME came installed on
it (Toshiba Core Duo). The month that I ran Vista was not too bad of an
experience with the excepting of some of my AV programs not being fully
functional even with Vista updates. I am going to have to replace a couple
of them sometime soon anyway because there are some amazing newer ones out
there now. It is a couple thousand bucks to buy the decent AV programs now
which is probably a thousand less than five years ago.


Ed


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Old 08-01-2007, 07:42 PM
Ed Medlin
 
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Default Re: Ping_Phil W. Striker Extreme OC

Just a little update on the Striker Extreme OC project. I now have the E6600
stable at 3.4ghz. I needed to take the voltage up to 1.50v to get it there.
I have an idle temp of 30c and max after 4hrs of Orthos (so far...it is
still running) with small ffts of 52c. I needed to back my memory down again
to 933mhz to stay stable. I don't have a clue as to why this memory is so
finnicky.... It will pass Memtest and Orthos just fine, but a couple of
programs just don't like it. Performance is great and I finally got over
15000 in 3DMark 06. Memory bandwidth in Sandra SiSoftware Sandra, RAM
Bandwidth Int Buff'd iSSE2 : 7093 MB/s, RAM Bandwidth Float Buff'd iSSE2 :
7041 MB/s. It could be a lot better, but it works for me.....:-).
SiSoftware Sandra CPU Arithmetic is somewhat better.......

Benchmark Results
Dhrystone ALU : 30840 MIPS
Whetstone iSSE3 : 21490 MFLOPS

Performance Test Status
Run ID : MYPUTER2 on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 at 1:39:06 PM
NUMA Support : No
SMP Test : No
Total Test Threads : 2
Multi-Core Test : Yes
Cores per Processor : 2
SMT Test : No
Dynamic MP/MT Load Balance : No
Processor Affinity : P0C0T0 P0C1T0
System Timer : 3.4GHz
Number of Runs : 64000 / 640

Processor
Model : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
Speed : 3.41GHz
Performance Rating : PR11584 (estimated)
Cores per Processor : 2 Unit(s)
Type : Dual-Core
L2 On-board Cache : 4MB ECC Synchronous, ATC, 16-way set, 64 byte line size,
2 threads sharing

I guess I'll keep it awhile....


Ed


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Old 08-03-2007, 03:25 PM
Fishface
 
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Ed Medlin wrote:
> Just a little update on the Striker Extreme OC project. I now have the E6600
> stable at 3.4ghz. I needed to take the voltage up to 1.50v to get it there.


What is your Vdroop under load on this board?

Can you hear it? Off in the distance, the Q6600s are calling us...


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Old 08-03-2007, 05:51 PM
Ed Medlin
 
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"Fishface" <invalid@ddress.ok?> wrote in message
newsVGsi.6$mw4.0@trndny09...
> Ed Medlin wrote:
>> Just a little update on the Striker Extreme OC project. I now have the
>> E6600
>> stable at 3.4ghz. I needed to take the voltage up to 1.50v to get it
>> there.

>
> What is your Vdroop under load on this board?
>
> Can you hear it? Off in the distance, the Q6600s are calling us...
>
>

From all I have heard the Q6600s offer little performance increase over the
E6600s. I now have the processor at 3.6ghz, but am going to take it back
down to 3.4 because of the extreme voltage (1.65vcore) it takes to get it
there. It is stable, but even watercooled I am seeing temps of 65-68c under
load and 34c idle. It was stable in Orthos for overnight but I don't need to
fry it so quickly.........:-). I haven't checked Vdrop (I guess that is what
you meant......:-) so can't help you there. I can run Asus monitor and let
you know if you want. I want the Xseries to come down from
$900-$1200.........:-).

Ed


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Old 08-04-2007, 05:08 AM
Fishface
 
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Ed Medlin wrote:
> From all I have heard the Q6600s offer little performance increase over the
> E6600s.


But I thought you edited video. Which app(s)?

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/...ssageID=538835
HD rendertest benchmark for Vegas showing times for various CPUs,
including a Q6700 overclocked to 3.73 GHz (85 s.). My E6400 @ 3.4 GHz
took 185 s.

> I now have the processor at 3.6ghz, but am going to take it back
> down to 3.4 because of the extreme voltage (1.65vcore) it takes to get it
> there. It is stable, but even watercooled I am seeing temps of 65-68c under
> load and 34c idle. It was stable in Orthos for overnight but I don't need to
> fry it so quickly.........:-). I haven't checked Vdrop (I guess that is what
> you meant......:-) so can't help you there. I can run Asus monitor and let
> you know if you want. I want the Xseries to come down from
> $900-$1200.........:-).


On my board, I just notice the CPU-Z voltage change between idle and full load.
I get .02 - .03 volt change at 3.4 GHz (1.38 v. at idle, but fluctuates between
1.35 v. and 1.36 v. under load).

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=134100
Thread about Vdroop pencil mod for your board!


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Old 08-04-2007, 12:31 PM
Ed Medlin
 
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"Fishface" <invalid@ddress.ok?> wrote in message
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> Ed Medlin wrote:
>> From all I have heard the Q6600s offer little performance increase over
>> the
>> E6600s.

>
> But I thought you edited video. Which app(s)?
>


That makes me think otherwise. I didn't think (sometimes my age gets me)
about the apps taking advantage of four cores.

> http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/...ssageID=538835
> HD rendertest benchmark for Vegas showing times for various CPUs,
> including a Q6700 overclocked to 3.73 GHz (85 s.). My E6400 @ 3.4 GHz
> took 185 s.
>


Very interesting thread, thanks alot for that.

>> I now have the processor at 3.6ghz, but am going to take it back
>> down to 3.4 because of the extreme voltage (1.65vcore) it takes to get it
>> there. It is stable, but even watercooled I am seeing temps of 65-68c
>> under
>> load and 34c idle. It was stable in Orthos for overnight but I don't need
>> to
>> fry it so quickly.........:-). I haven't checked Vdrop (I guess that is
>> what
>> you meant......:-) so can't help you there. I can run Asus monitor and
>> let
>> you know if you want. I want the Xseries to come down from
>> $900-$1200.........:-).

>
> On my board, I just notice the CPU-Z voltage change between idle and full
> load.
> I get .02 - .03 volt change at 3.4 GHz (1.38 v. at idle, but fluctuates
> between
> 1.35 v. and 1.36 v. under load).
>


Running Orthos and monitoring the 1.5v vcore @ 3.4ghz I do see it flunctuate
between 1.48v and 1.51v but I don't think that is a major issue. It isn't
enough for me to take down my watercooling stuff to do the pencil mod. If it
caused me problems I would think strongly about doing it.


Ed


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