I just got an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ (manchester core) and a msi K8T Neo2 v2.0 mobo bundle. I though it was a good deal before i realised it was 64bit!There was no fan with the bundle so the store threw in an akasa lo-noise cooler which had thermal grease pre-applied.Idle my processor runs at 26/27c and the sys. temp is 35c.Are these good readings?
Am i ok to start overclocking or should i install a proper cooling system before doing so?Can i overlclock from windows xp?Which software would i need to do it?I.t would be for games and performance increases where necessary,i also make music so it would be good to have extra processing power when needed for more demanding plugin instruments that i could control from windows instead of having to go into the bios each time,or do you leave settings overclocked?
I don't know much about overclocking so is ther anywhere i can find info about the different settings in my bios and how to set them?There doesn't seem to be a manual for my mobo but it would be good to know what i'm doing before i start doing it and somehow melt my processor!
'Electrotribal' wrote:
| I just got an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ (manchester core) and a msi K8T Neo2
| v2.0 mobo bundle. I though it was a good deal before i realised it was
| 64bit!There was no fan with the bundle so the store threw in an akasa
| lo-noise cooler which had thermal grease pre-applied.Idle my processor
| runs at 26/27c and the sys. temp is 35c.Are these good readings?
|
| Am i ok to start overclocking or should i install a proper cooling
| system before doing so?Can i overlclock from windows xp?Which software
| would i need to do it?I.t would be for games and performance increases
| where necessary,i also make music so it would be good to have extra
| processing power when needed for more demanding plugin instruments that
| i could control from windows instead of having to go into the bios each
| time,or do you leave settings overclocked?
|
| I don't know much about overclocking so is ther anywhere i can find
| info about the different settings in my bios and how to set them?There
| doesn't seem to be a manual for my mobo but it would be good to know
| what i'm doing before i start doing it and somehow melt my processor!
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The manual for your motherboard can be downloaded at
<http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=manual&maincat_ no=1&prod_no=565>
..
Read it, and I am sure you can come up with some specific questions.
As far as cooling, go ahead and try overclocking with the current cooling
system, improve it if necessary to get a better overclock. Overclocking a
CPU is accomplished by a combination of increasing CPU clock speed, memory
clock speed, CPU clock multiplier, CPU and memory voltages, and cooling
capacity.
The AMOUNT of overclocking possible depends on the luck of the draw (how
much performance margin your particular CPU chip has, the quality of the
motherboard, and the quality of the memory as well as the factors in the
previous paragraph.)
The temperatures you posted seem ok, but don't really mean much without
knowing
room ambient temperature
how much load the CPU is under (Orthos is a CPU stress test that can
pretty much assure a 100% processor load.)
Phil Weldon
"Electribal" <Electribal.2sckfb@no.email.invalid> wrote in message
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| I just got an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ (manchester core) and a msi K8T Neo2
| v2.0 mobo bundle. I though it was a good deal before i realised it was
| 64bit!There was no fan with the bundle so the store threw in an akasa
| lo-noise cooler which had thermal grease pre-applied.Idle my processor
| runs at 26/27c and the sys. temp is 35c.Are these good readings?
|
| Am i ok to start overclocking or should i install a proper cooling
| system before doing so?Can i overlclock from windows xp?Which software
| would i need to do it?I.t would be for games and performance increases
| where necessary,i also make music so it would be good to have extra
| processing power when needed for more demanding plugin instruments that
| i could control from windows instead of having to go into the bios each
| time,or do you leave settings overclocked?
|
| I don't know much about overclocking so is ther anywhere i can find
| info about the different settings in my bios and how to set them?There
| doesn't seem to be a manual for my mobo but it would be good to know
| what i'm doing before i start doing it and somehow melt my processor!
|
| Thanks for any help you can give me,
|
| Mark
|
|
"Electribal" <Electribal.2sckfb@no.email.invalid> wrote in message
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> I just got an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ (manchester core) and a msi K8T Neo2
> v2.0 mobo bundle. I though it was a good deal before i realised it was
> 64bit!There was no fan with the bundle so the store threw in an akasa
> lo-noise cooler which had thermal grease pre-applied.Idle my processor
> runs at 26/27c and the sys. temp is 35c.Are these good readings?
>
> Am i ok to start overclocking or should i install a proper cooling
> system before doing so?Can i overlclock from windows xp?Which software
> would i need to do it?I.t would be for games and performance increases
> where necessary,i also make music so it would be good to have extra
> processing power when needed for more demanding plugin instruments that
> i could control from windows instead of having to go into the bios each
> time,or do you leave settings overclocked?
>
> I don't know much about overclocking so is ther anywhere i can find
> info about the different settings in my bios and how to set them?There
> doesn't seem to be a manual for my mobo but it would be good to know
> what i'm doing before i start doing it and somehow melt my processor!
>
> Thanks for any help you can give me,
>
> Mark
>
Phil gave you good info as far as overclocking your system is concerned and
I may be able to help with the other. I do a lot of audio and video
including mixing and processing music. The first thing I do is to basically
follow Phil's method and make sure my system is perfectly stable in all
areas. ANY overclock has to be that way for me to call it successful. Once I
know that all my apps run exactly the way they are supposed to I just leave
it that way. Audio and video work can really put a lot of stress on your
system, especially processor usage. I mix all my music through a
professional sound board and can output directly into my GTXP sound card I/O
box using the standard phone-type jacks. I use software for track management
and final mix once everything is on the computer. I play about 5 instruments
and then may add several vocal tracks so I cannot afford issues with the
system that may make me lose hours of work. Err on the conservative side on
your overclock. There is no problem at all with overclocking if you do it
correctly.
Re the manual the mobo came with a 'quick users guide' which is the same as the pdf download.Theres very little info on the bios menus so at this point anything i do will be experimental.
As you say it's a certain combination but what would be a good combination?I increased the CPU clock from 200MHz to 210 and CPU speed rose from 2.2ghz to 2.31 and the cpu temp has risen by 1 degree which seems low for 110mhz increase..
Could you suggest a good combination/approach when overclocking or good source of info on the subject?
Thanks again for your help,i'll post any more questions when i think of anything
'Electribal' wrote, in part:
| Re the manual the mobo came with a 'quick users guide' which is the
| same as the pdf download.Theres very little info on the bios menus so at
| this point anything i do will be experimental.
|
| As you say it's a certain combination but what would be a good
| combination?I increased the CPU clock from 200MHz to 210 and CPU speed
| rose from 2.2ghz to 2.31 and the cpu temp has risen by 1 degree which
| seems low for 110mhz increase..
|
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The URL I posted does indeed have the FULL manual for your motherboard. The
first requirements for successful overclocking is attention to detail,
methodical approach, and good record keeping.
Go again to the URL and download the FULL manual. Download the file
E6072v1.0.zip if you want the English language version. This file is 6250
KBytes and unzips to a 118 page .pdf file. It is NOT a 'quick users guide'.
Please read this manual and then ask specific question.
Increasing the CPU speed by only (2.31 GHz - 2.2 GHz)/(2.2 GHz) = 5% is a
very small increase, and the heat production increase is VERY small. Also,
the important CPU core temperature is the temperature when CPU usage is 100%
using a stress test, Orthos with Small FFTs is recommended. Other important
diagnostic temperatures are the room ambient temperature, air temperature
inside the system case, and motherboard temperature.
Read the manual. I've been overclock my new E4300 at 2.7 GHz (50%)
overclock + EVGA 680i motherboard (nVidia chipset) for several months now,
and I have yet to understand all the detail contained in the manual for my
motherboard. The BIOS section alone in the manual for your motherboard is
28 pages long.
After you read the manual, then ask
| Could you suggest a good combination/approach when overclocking or good
| source of info on the subject?
again.
Phil Weldon
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| Thanks Phil.
|
| Re the manual the mobo came with a 'quick users guide' which is the
| same as the pdf download.Theres very little info on the bios menus so at
| this point anything i do will be experimental.
|
| As you say it's a certain combination but what would be a good
| combination?I increased the CPU clock from 200MHz to 210 and CPU speed
| rose from 2.2ghz to 2.31 and the cpu temp has risen by 1 degree which
| seems low for 110mhz increase..
|
| Could you suggest a good combination/approach when overclocking or good
| source of info on the subject?
|
| Thanks again for your help,i'll post any more questions when i think of
| anything
|
|
<http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=manual&maincat_ no=1&prod_no=208> I checked the manual to see if it was similar but it's quite different.Anyway from your help i can see it's not complicated so thanks
I've found some good info on what the different settings relate to so i feel a bit more confident about what i'm doing.It's the voltages i was concerned about but i can see i'm not going to melt the mobo as long as i am careful.I'll run orthos test with small ffts and see how it goes.
Thanks again.I may have some more specific questions later.
Last edited by Electribal : 06-20-2007 at 03:29 AM.
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