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  #11  
Old 08-10-2008, 05:07 AM
Moe
 
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Default Re: Help overclocking AMD 64 (Hammer) 3500+

Thanks Paul,

Your information was very helpful. Maybe I can find an ATX or
comparable in the bargain bin at new egg. Layed off right now, and
don't have the cash.
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Old 08-10-2008, 05:13 AM
Ed Light
 
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Default Re: Help overclocking AMD 64 (Hammer) 3500+

Moe wrote:
> Please forgive, I made a mistake on mobo model. Its an Asus A8AE-LE
> (SR1750NX). Darn windows ID showed wrong mobo. CPUZ straightened me
> out.


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Old 08-10-2008, 05:25 AM
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Default Re: Help overclocking AMD 64 (Hammer) 3500+

Moe wrote:

> Thanks Paul


His answer was spectacular!

> Maybe I can find an ATX or
> comparable in the bargain bin at new egg.


Newegg presently doesn't have any 939's. Pricewatch shows some for
around $50. It would take some manual reading to see what they could do.

http://www.pricewatch.com/motherboards/socket_939.htm

If you can manage it, you could always get an am2 board, cpu with
cooler, and 2 gigs of memory for a little over $100. Throw in $30 more
for dual-core.

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Old 08-10-2008, 05:42 AM
Paul
 
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Default Re: Help overclocking AMD 64 (Hammer) 3500+

Moe wrote:
> Thanks Paul,
>
> Your information was very helpful. Maybe I can find an ATX or
> comparable in the bargain bin at new egg. Layed off right now, and
> don't have the cash.


You can try researching this one. S939 board with PCI Express graphics
slot, found via Pricewatch.com . $40. (S939 has been out of production
for a while, so you would not expect the "pick of the litter" in terms
of motherboards at retail.)

http://3btech.net/asa8so939maw.html

When it comes to stores on Pricewatch, it pays to check BBB or resellerratings.com .
You can see their reputation here, and read comments posted by people. I
guess my main concern, would be whether these people could be trusted to
handle an RMA, if the board is bad. (One danger with a $40 board, is a
lot of returns "orbiting" through the retailer, such that all they carry
are leftover bad boards.)

http://www.resellerratings.com/store/3B_Tech

This thread on the Asus forums, mentions the A8S-X is overclockable. At $40,
don't expect miracles. You may also want to read other reviews if you can find
them, to check to see whether the other clocks, like the PCI Express or
the SATA clock are "locked", while you're overclocking the processor.

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?...Language=en-us

You can pick up a manual here.

http://support.asus.com/download/dow...us&model=a8s-x

More comments here.

http://www.newegg.com/product/Produc...82E16813131525

Maybe you'll find something more worthy on Ebay.

Paul
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Old 08-10-2008, 07:07 AM
Moe
 
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Default Re: Help overclocking AMD 64 (Hammer) 3500+

Paul wrote:

> The clock generator chip also has a serial bus connection.
> An example of a program that can access a clock generator
> chip is Clockgen from cpuid.com. But Clockgen has a very
> limited set of supported clock generator chips, and so even
> if the program was still available, it most likely would not
> help you. (Perhaps someone else can suggest a program like
> Clockgen for you.)


Awesome tip! I found Clockgen 1.0.5.3, then found the PLL for the Asus
A8AE-LE (ICS 951412)

I was able to raise the bus speed to 230MHZ. (Max it would let me).

Results:

Bus 200 MHz to 229.4 MHz
CPU from 2200 MHz to 2523.4 MHz at 11x Multiplier
PCI-E from 100 MHz to 115 MHz

Not a great jump, but a good start. Im gonna keep looking to see if I
can find anything to raise it up higher.

Temp after boost = 40 C

Thanks again.
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Old 08-10-2008, 03:49 PM
Paul
 
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Default Re: Help overclocking AMD 64 (Hammer) 3500+

Moe wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>
>> The clock generator chip also has a serial bus connection.
>> An example of a program that can access a clock generator
>> chip is Clockgen from cpuid.com. But Clockgen has a very
>> limited set of supported clock generator chips, and so even
>> if the program was still available, it most likely would not
>> help you. (Perhaps someone else can suggest a program like
>> Clockgen for you.)

>
> Awesome tip! I found Clockgen 1.0.5.3, then found the PLL for the Asus
> A8AE-LE (ICS 951412)
>
> I was able to raise the bus speed to 230MHZ. (Max it would let me).
>
> Results:
>
> Bus 200 MHz to 229.4 MHz
> CPU from 2200 MHz to 2523.4 MHz at 11x Multiplier
> PCI-E from 100 MHz to 115 MHz
>
> Not a great jump, but a good start. Im gonna keep looking to see if I
> can find anything to raise it up higher.
>
> Temp after boost = 40 C
>
> Thanks again.


You were indeed born lucky ! :-)

Paul
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Old 10-05-2008, 12:19 PM
danica
 
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Default Re: Help overclocking AMD 64 (Hammer) 3500+


Users who overclock their components mainly focus their efforts on
processors, video cards, motherboard chipsets, and Random Access Memory
(RAM). It is done through manipulating the CPU multiplier and the
motherboard's front side bus (FSB) speed until a maximum stable
operating frequency is reached. While the idea is simple, variation in
the electrical and physical characteristics of computing systems
complicates the process.

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Old 11-13-2008, 03:07 AM
Moe
 
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On Oct 5, 6:19*am, danica <danica.32e8...@hardwarebanter.com> wrote:
> Users who overclock their components mainly focus their efforts on
> processors, video cards, motherboard chipsets, and Random Access Memory
> (RAM). It is done through manipulating the CPU multiplier and the
> motherboard's front side bus (FSB) speed until a maximum stable
> operating frequency is reached. While the idea is simple, variation in
> the electrical and physical characteristics of computing systems
> complicates the process.
>
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>
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NO kidding! What part of our conversation made you think we didn't
already understand that?
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Old 11-13-2008, 03:33 AM
Phil Weldon
 
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Default Re: Help overclocking AMD 64 (Hammer) 3500+

'Moe' wrote:
> NO kidding! What part of our conversation made you think we didn't
> already understand that?

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Look at the posting source; hardwarebanter.com . All the posts to this
Usenet newsgroup from that source have been no more than an excuse to spam
by sig. And you might consider using a real newsreader also.

Phil Weldon

"Moe" <munmoe@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ff6c72c2-8ef1-4fc2-a909-7b33ffcfd1cf@f40g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 5, 6:19 am, danica <danica.32e8...@hardwarebanter.com> wrote:
>> Users who overclock their components mainly focus their efforts on
>> processors, video cards, motherboard chipsets, and Random Access Memory
>> (RAM). It is done through manipulating the CPU multiplier and the
>> motherboard's front side bus (FSB) speed until a maximum stable
>> operating frequency is reached. While the idea is simple, variation in
>> the electrical and physical characteristics of computing systems
>> complicates the process.
>>
>> ____________________
>>
>> 'Keyword Search' (http://www.keywordspy.com/keyword-research-tool)
>> 'Blue Cross Blue Shield' (http://www.gohealthinsurance.com)
>>
>> --
>> danica


> NO kidding! What part of our conversation made you think we didn't
> already understand that?


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