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  #21  
Old 01-20-2008, 02:04 AM
RobV
 
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Default Re: Gigabyte P35-DS3P

bornfree wrote:
> On 20 Jan, 00:11, "RobV" <r...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>> bornfree wrote:
>>> On 19 Jan, 22:43, "Fishface" <inva...@ddress.ok?> wrote:
>>>> bornfree wrote:
>>>>> CPUID still reports my clock speed to be 1.86 under
>>>>> "specification" though .

>>
>>>> If SpeedStep is enabled, it will automatically slow down under
>>>> load. Some report higher overclocks when this is disabled, as it
>>>> lowers the voltage (vCore) also. Check it with a load.

>>
>>>> Which CPU do you have? If multi-core, sure it is stressing all
>>>> cores by checking the performance tab of Windows Task Manager,

>>
>>> Orthos running + Windows Performace tab + temps.

>>
>>> http://i11.tinypic.com/850vlts.png

>>
>>> CPU got a bit hot. (Idle temp around 54/55)

>>
>> Yeah, you have Speed Step enabled. Notice it's now running at 2100
>> MHz, which means the multiplier was changed. Read my response I
>> just posted to your previous post.

>
> Thanks for all your posts Rob. Than have really helped me out here!
>
> I am grappling with disabling speedstep. Been looking through the
> manual, google, and the Bios without any luck.
>
> According to one forum Gigabyte call it EIST (whatever that stands
> for). But I can't find that either!
> Anyway, thanks so far, you've been a big help.


You're very welcome. You might try the Gigabyte MB Ng:
alt.periphs.mainboard.gigabyte, or check if they have a forum at
Gigabyte's web site. Good luck. I'm sure you'll get the hang of it.
It just takes time and a bit of reading. At least you know the CPU will
do at least 2.1 GHz..

One other thing. The other guys/gals were just trying to help you. The
core voltage is rather high. You don't want to burn the CPU out before
you give it a good run.

Surprise, surprise...just checked the specs for your CPU. Core voltage:
0.85V to 1.5V. Surprisingly high! However, it will likely overclock
fine on much lower voltage. Remember, the higher the voltage, the
greater the temp, so keep it cool. ;-)


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  #22  
Old 01-20-2008, 02:49 AM
Fishface
 
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Default Re: Gigabyte P35-DS3P

bornfree wrote:
> I am grappling with disabling speedstep. Been looking through the
> manual, google, and the Bios without any luck.
>
> According to one forum Gigabyte call it EIST (whatever that stands
> for). But I can't find that either!


Got a screen like this?
http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/ga_.../bios-0002.jpg

Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology, I think...

What RAM do you have, anyway? My E6400 is running 426 x 8 in
a Gigabyte P35-DS3L at I think 1.3125 volts. Well, it doesn't have
a video card in it at the moment, but it did! You are perhaps limited
a bit by the maximum 7 multiplier of the E6300 and RAM speed, but
can probably go much higher.


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  #23  
Old 01-20-2008, 03:03 AM
bornfree
 
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Default Re: Gigabyte P35-DS3P

On 20 Jan, 02:49, "Fishface" <inva...@ddress.ok?> wrote:
> bornfree wrote:
> > I am grappling with disabling speedstep. Been looking through the
> > manual, google, and the Bios without any luck.

>
> > According to one forum Gigabyte call it EIST (whatever that stands
> > for). But I can't find that either!

>
> Got a screen like this?http://pic.xfastest.com/hicookie/ga_.../bios-0002.jpg
>
> Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology, I think...
>
> What RAM do you have, anyway? My E6400 is running 426 x 8 in
> a Gigabyte P35-DS3L at I think 1.3125 volts. Well, it doesn't have
> a video card in it at the moment, but it did! You are perhaps limited
> a bit by the maximum 7 multiplier of the E6300 and RAM speed, but
> can probably go much higher.


Cheap RAM.

I managed to google up a page from my BIOS Intelligent Tweaker page on
the web.

1) http://techgage.com/reviews/gigabyte...s_08_thumb.jpg
2) http://techgage.com/reviews/gigabyte...s_09_thumb.jpg
Taken from http://techgage.com/print/gigabyte_ga-p35c-ds3r (Just over
half way down the page).

Also, this is what it looks like without the extra options expanded
(Ctrl+F1)
http://idg.bg/anketi/asemblirane/200...T182255000.JPG

A light blue row means that rows' settings cannot be modified at the
current configuration.
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  #24  
Old 01-21-2008, 04:39 AM
Fishface
 
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Default Re: Gigabyte P35-DS3P

bornfree wrote:

> Cheap RAM.


Uh, not very specific. Some cheap RAM overclocks very well,
like my SuperTalent DDR2. $40 for 2 GB.


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  #25  
Old 01-21-2008, 05:22 AM
bornfree
 
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Default Re: Gigabyte P35-DS3P

On 21 Jan, 04:39, "Fishface" <inva...@ddress.ok?> wrote:
> bornfree wrote:
> > Cheap RAM.

>
> Uh, not very specific. Some cheap RAM overclocks very well,
> like my SuperTalent DDR2. $40 for 2 GB.


My RAM says:
DDR2 -533 1GB
pqi 0101-06D1
MEABR422LA

Does that relate to PC2 6400 in any way?
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  #26  
Old 01-21-2008, 06:54 AM
Fishface
 
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Default Re: Gigabyte P35-DS3P

bornfree wrote:
> My RAM says:
> DDR2 -533 1GB
> pqi 0101-06D1
> MEABR422LA
>
> Does that relate to PC2 6400 in any way?


Nope, PC2-4200. PC2-6400 is DDR2-800.

If you can see who manufactures the individual chips, you can look
up the data sheet to see what maximum voltage you can feed them.
A lot of times, the slower memory is the same as the expensive
memory a company sells, just spec'd to run at a lower voltage and
possibly not tested at a faster speed with a higher voltage. Then
it's just trial and error testing.


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  #27  
Old 01-21-2008, 08:30 AM
bornfree
 
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Default Re: Gigabyte P35-DS3P

On 21 Jan, 06:54, "Fishface" <inva...@ddress.ok?> wrote:
> bornfree wrote:
> > My RAM says:
> > DDR2 -533 1GB
> > pqi 0101-06D1
> > MEABR422LA

>
> > Does that relate to PC2 6400 in any way?

>
> Nope, PC2-4200. PC2-6400 is DDR2-800.
>


I have a confession to make then. 1GB of memory is in the form of a
DDR2 -533 stick, while the other GB is PC2-6400.

The PC2-6400 I fitted myself, and was £20 inc postage. (equiv to $40
USD). Should I spend that amount again to make them both the same?
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  #28  
Old 01-21-2008, 09:02 AM
bornfree
 
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Default Re: Gigabyte P35-DS3P

On 21 Jan, 08:30, bornfree <justyouan...@xemaps.com> wrote:
> On 21 Jan, 06:54, "Fishface" <inva...@ddress.ok?> wrote:
>
> > bornfree wrote:
> > > My RAM says:
> > > DDR2 -533 1GB
> > > pqi 0101-06D1
> > > MEABR422LA

>
> > > Does that relate to PC2 6400 in any way?

>
> > Nope, PC2-4200. PC2-6400 is DDR2-800.

>
> I have a confession to make then. 1GB of memory is in the form of a
> DDR2 -533 stick, while the other GB is PC2-6400.


According to the bios it (my DRAM) was running at 533(something) but
CPU-Z says it is running at 300Mhz.

Also I have a sneaky feeling when I set it higher in the bios it will
stay the same in CPU-Z. I dunno.

Also, when I changed the FSB from 300 to 366, my CPU clock stayed at
2.10Ghz. :confuzzled:

Here's the cheaper ram stick info in cpu z
http://i26.tinypic.com/s16pth.png
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  #29  
Old 01-23-2008, 03:30 AM
~misfit~
 
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Default Re: Gigabyte P35-DS3P

Somewhere on teh intarweb "Fishface" typed:
> bornfree wrote:
>
>> CPUID still reports my clock speed to be 1.86 under "specification"
>> though .

>
> If SpeedStep is enabled, it will automatically slow down under load.
> Some report higher overclocks when this is disabled, as it lowers the
> voltage (vCore) also. Check it with a load.
>
> Which CPU do you have? If multi-core, sure it is stressing all cores
> by checking the performance tab of Windows Task Manager, assuming you
> are running Windows, of course. I just use this:
> http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads...rime_2004.html
>
> ...which runs two instances of Prime95 torture test. I need to run
> two instances of Orthos for the Quad core, though. Shaun posted that
> he found a Prime95 version on www.MajorGeeks.com which is ver 25.5.
> that would stress all cores. I was a little suspicious that it
> wasn't found on the official website, so I didn't download it.
> http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm


It's been running fine, far easier than mucking about with two instances of
Orthos and setting affinity etc.. :-)

I see that it has been mentioned as the stress program of choice in a few
mobo reviews I've read recently. (Sorry, I didn't keep URLs)

The page that you linked, http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm hasn't been
updated since July 4, 2007. Odd I know. <shrug>

Cheers,
--
Shaun.


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Old 01-23-2008, 05:47 AM
~misfit~
 
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Default Re: Gigabyte P35-DS3P

Somewhere on teh intarweb "RobV" typed:
> Fishface wrote:
>> bornfree wrote:
>>
>>> CPUID still reports my clock speed to be 1.86 under "specification"
>>> though .

>>
>> If SpeedStep is enabled, it will automatically slow down under load.
>> Some report higher overclocks when this is disabled, as it lowers the
>> voltage (vCore) also. Check it with a load.
>>
>> Which CPU do you have? If multi-core, sure it is stressing all cores
>> by checking the performance tab of Windows Task Manager, assuming you
>> are running Windows, of course. I just use this:
>> http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads...rime_2004.html

>
> Thanks for the link. It does make up for the features Prime95 lacks.
>
>> ...which runs two instances of Prime95 torture test. I need to run
>> two instances of Orthos for the Quad core, though. Shaun posted that
>> he found a Prime95 version on www.MajorGeeks.com which is ver 25.5.
>> that would stress all cores. I was a little suspicious that it
>> wasn't found on the official website, so I didn't download it.
>> http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm

>
> I've been using Prime95 ver 25.5 for a while and it looks as if it's
> simply a crude version of what OSP is. It has a main window, two
> windows within, one for each core, and it runs the same tests as
> regular Prime95 and OSP. I'll certainly use OSP from now on because
> it does have all the features that Prime95 lack, all versions
> included.


Not true, which you'd know if you had a four-core CPU.

What features does Orthos have that Prime95 ver.25.5 lacks? I'm curious. I
took Orthos off the systems that I'm responsible for in favour of P95/25.5
as it handles as many cores as you have, without you having to start
multiple instances. Also, it gives you the options of test-types, the same
as Orthos does.
--
Shaun.


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