bornfree wrote:
> On 19 Jan, 22:43, "Fishface" <inva...@ddress.ok?> wrote:
>> bornfree wrote:
>>> CPUID still reports my clock speed to be 1.86 under "specification"
>>> though .
>>
>> If SpeedStep is enabled, it will automatically slow down under load.
>> Some report higher overclocks when this is disabled, as it lowers the
>> voltage (vCore) also. Check it with a load.
>>
>> Which CPU do you have?
>
>
> E6300. 2 cores.
>
> See this pic it shows my system as defined by CPU ID and prime95.
> http://i1.tinypic.com/6ww5qht.png
It's Intel's attempt to confuse you. ;-) In CPU-Z (and anywhere else,
AFAIK), Intel CPUs are identified by the model number * and * the stock
frequency.
As shown in CPU-Z, Specification, you have a 6300 @ 1.86GHz.
I have a 6600, which shows up in CPU-Z, Specification, as a 6600 @
2.4GHz
Lower down at Core Speed, the actual clock speed of the CPU is listed.
Mine is 3006 MHz. The spec and CPU information will always show 6600 @
2.4GHz, even if the CPU actual clock speed is higher (or lower).
Now, to your system. You have the Core Voltage set to 1.408V (don't
know if that's under load, or not).
Lower left side, Core Speed is 1800 MHz, or 1.8 GHz, so you're
underclocking the CPU. Just below, you'll see why. The multiplier is
x6.0 and the FSB is 300 MHz, for an * effective * FSB (x4, or Quad
Pumped) of 1200 MHz. CPU speed is x6.0 X 300 MHz FSB, which equals 1800
MHz.
Unless you set the multiplier to x6 (the lowest, I believe), it was set
by Speed Step, which Fishface mentioned. In BIOS, go to the Advanced
tab, open CPU Configuration and disable Modify Ratio Support, then set
it to the max value (or vice versa).
Disable C1E
Disable Intel Speed Step at the very bottom.
This should give you a stable multiplier and Vcore so you can actually
test the limits of the CPU, without Speed Step changing things on you.
bornfree wrote:
> On 19 Jan, 22:43, "Fishface" <inva...@ddress.ok?> wrote:
>> bornfree wrote:
>>> CPUID still reports my clock speed to be 1.86 under "specification"
>>> though .
>>
>> If SpeedStep is enabled, it will automatically slow down under load.
>> Some report higher overclocks when this is disabled, as it lowers the
>> voltage (vCore) also. Check it with a load.
>>
>> Which CPU do you have? If multi-core, sure it is stressing all
>> cores by checking the performance tab of Windows Task Manager,
>
> Orthos running + Windows Performace tab + temps.
>
> http://i11.tinypic.com/850vlts.png
>
> CPU got a bit hot. (Idle temp around 54/55)
Yeah, you have Speed Step enabled. Notice it's now running at 2100 MHz,
which means the multiplier was changed. Read my response I just posted
to your previous post.
On 20 Jan, 00:02, "RobV" <r...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> bornfree wrote:
> > On 19 Jan, 22:43, "Fishface" <inva...@ddress.ok?> wrote:
> >> bornfree wrote:
> >>> CPUID still reports my clock speed to be 1.86 under "specification"
> >>> though .
>
> >> If SpeedStep is enabled, it will automatically slow down under load.
> >> Some report higher overclocks when this is disabled, as it lowers the
> >> voltage (vCore) also. Check it with a load.
>
> >> Which CPU do you have?
>
> > E6300. 2 cores.
>
> > See this pic it shows my system as defined by CPU ID and prime95.
> >http://i1.tinypic.com/6ww5qht.png
>
> It's Intel's attempt to confuse you. ;-) In CPU-Z (and anywhere else,
> AFAIK), Intel CPUs are identified by the model number * and * the stock
> frequency.
>
> As shown in CPU-Z, Specification, you have a 6300 @ 1.86GHz.
>
> I have a 6600, which shows up in CPU-Z, Specification, as a 6600 @
> 2.4GHz
>
> Lower down at Core Speed, the actual clock speed of the CPU is listed.
> Mine is 3006 MHz. The spec and CPU information will always show 6600 @
> 2.4GHz, even if the CPU actual clock speed is higher (or lower).
>
> Now, to your system. You have the Core Voltage set to 1.408V (don't
> know if that's under load, or not).
>
> Lower left side, Core Speed is 1800 MHz, or 1.8 GHz, so you're
> underclocking the CPU. Just below, you'll see why. The multiplier is
> x6.0 and the FSB is 300 MHz, for an * effective * FSB (x4, or Quad
> Pumped) of 1200 MHz. CPU speed is x6.0 X 300 MHz FSB, which equals 1800
> MHz.
>
> Unless you set the multiplier to x6 (the lowest, I believe), it was set
> by Speed Step, which Fishface mentioned. In BIOS, go to the Advanced
> tab, open CPU Configuration and disable Modify Ratio Support, then set
> it to the max value (or vice versa).
>
> Disable C1E
> Disable Intel Speed Step at the very bottom.
>
> This should give you a stable multiplier and Vcore so you can actually
> test the limits of the CPU, without Speed Step changing things on you.
Ok. First of all, I need to say I am a beginner at this so I didn't
understand everything you said.
Secondly, prime says my CPU is 2100Mhz. Mobmeter also says 2.10Ghz....
I can't have underclocked it, because my CPU temp is way higher than
previous.
'bornfree' wrote:
| See this pic it shows my system as defined by CPU ID and prime95.
| http://i1.tinypic.com/6ww5qht.
_____
Your reported core voltage (1.408 volts) is unnecessarily high. Dangerously
high, in fact. So high that your overclocking would very likely limited by
excessive heat before ANY OTHER REASON. Immediately reduce your CPU core
voltage to the automatic default level set by your specific CPU. Do not,
for any reason, change the automatic default core voltage UNTIL you have
attempted a mild overclock, then increased that mild overclock until you hit
instability.
Before you post again, read my reply to another of your multiple threads
about keeping your post organized into ONE THREAD.
Again, you are on the road to destroying your CPU. Step back, breath
deeply, and THINK before you precede.
Phil Weldon
"bornfree" <justyouandme@xemaps.com> wrote in message
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| On 19 Jan, 22:43, "Fishface" <inva...@ddress.ok?> wrote:
| > bornfree wrote:
| > > CPUID still reports my clock speed to be 1.86 under "specification"
| > > though .
| >
| > If SpeedStep is enabled, it will automatically slow down under load.
| > Some report higher overclocks when this is disabled, as it lowers the
| > voltage (vCore) also. Check it with a load.
| >
| > Which CPU do you have?
|
|
| E6300. 2 cores.
|
| See this pic it shows my system as defined by CPU ID and prime95.
| http://i1.tinypic.com/6ww5qht.png
"bornfree" <justyouandme@xemaps.com> wrote in message
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> On 19 Jan, 22:43, "Fishface" <inva...@ddress.ok?> wrote:
>> bornfree wrote:
>> > CPUID still reports my clock speed to be 1.86 under "specification"
>> > though .
>>
>> If SpeedStep is enabled, it will automatically slow down under load.
>> Some report higher overclocks when this is disabled, as it lowers the
>> voltage (vCore) also. Check it with a load.
>>
>> Which CPU do you have?
>
>
> E6300. 2 cores.
>
> See this pic it shows my system as defined by CPU ID and prime95.
> http://i1.tinypic.com/6ww5qht.png
That's just the energy saving features (Speedstep?) of the chip kicking in.
Notice in CPUID the multiplier is x6. An E6300 has a maximum 7x multiplier
(266MHz*7=1862MHz). You have raised the FSB to 300, so the moment your E6300
comes under load, the multiplier will change to x7 and the chip will run at
2100MHz. Forget what the 'specification' section of CPUID says, no matter
what actual speed you are running at, it will always show "6300 @ 1.86GHz".
Everything is fine so far.
On 20 Jan, 00:11, "RobV" <r...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> bornfree wrote:
> > On 19 Jan, 22:43, "Fishface" <inva...@ddress.ok?> wrote:
> >> bornfree wrote:
> >>> CPUID still reports my clock speed to be 1.86 under "specification"
> >>> though .
>
> >> If SpeedStep is enabled, it will automatically slow down under load.
> >> Some report higher overclocks when this is disabled, as it lowers the
> >> voltage (vCore) also. Check it with a load.
>
> >> Which CPU do you have? If multi-core, sure it is stressing all
> >> cores by checking the performance tab of Windows Task Manager,
>
> > Orthos running + Windows Performace tab + temps.
>
> >http://i11.tinypic.com/850vlts.png
>
> > CPU got a bit hot. (Idle temp around 54/55)
>
> Yeah, you have Speed Step enabled. Notice it's now running at 2100 MHz,
> which means the multiplier was changed. Read my response I just posted
> to your previous post.
bornfree wrote:
> On 20 Jan, 00:02, "RobV" <r...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>> bornfree wrote:
>>> On 19 Jan, 22:43, "Fishface" <inva...@ddress.ok?> wrote:
>>>> bornfree wrote:
>>>>> CPUID still reports my clock speed to be 1.86 under
>>>>> "specification" though .
>>
>>>> If SpeedStep is enabled, it will automatically slow down under
>>>> load. Some report higher overclocks when this is disabled, as it
>>>> lowers the voltage (vCore) also. Check it with a load.
>>
>>>> Which CPU do you have?
>>
>>> E6300. 2 cores.
>>
>>> See this pic it shows my system as defined by CPU ID and prime95.
>>> http://i1.tinypic.com/6ww5qht.png
>>
>> It's Intel's attempt to confuse you. ;-) In CPU-Z (and anywhere
>> else, AFAIK), Intel CPUs are identified by the model number * and *
>> the stock frequency.
>>
>> As shown in CPU-Z, Specification, you have a 6300 @ 1.86GHz.
>>
>> I have a 6600, which shows up in CPU-Z, Specification, as a 6600 @
>> 2.4GHz
>>
>> Lower down at Core Speed, the actual clock speed of the CPU is
>> listed. Mine is 3006 MHz. The spec and CPU information will always
>> show 6600 @
>> 2.4GHz, even if the CPU actual clock speed is higher (or lower).
>>
>> Now, to your system. You have the Core Voltage set to 1.408V (don't
>> know if that's under load, or not).
>>
>> Lower left side, Core Speed is 1800 MHz, or 1.8 GHz, so you're
>> underclocking the CPU. Just below, you'll see why. The multiplier
>> is x6.0 and the FSB is 300 MHz, for an * effective * FSB (x4, or Quad
>> Pumped) of 1200 MHz. CPU speed is x6.0 X 300 MHz FSB, which equals
>> 1800 MHz.
>>
>> Unless you set the multiplier to x6 (the lowest, I believe), it was
>> set by Speed Step, which Fishface mentioned. In BIOS, go to the
>> Advanced tab, open CPU Configuration and disable Modify Ratio
>> Support, then set it to the max value (or vice versa).
>>
>> Disable C1E
>> Disable Intel Speed Step at the very bottom.
>>
>> This should give you a stable multiplier and Vcore so you can
>> actually test the limits of the CPU, without Speed Step changing
>> things on you.
>
> Ok. First of all, I need to say I am a beginner at this so I didn't
> understand everything you said.
>
> Secondly, prime says my CPU is 2100Mhz. Mobmeter also says 2.10Ghz....
>
> I can't have underclocked it, because my CPU temp is way higher than
> previous.
>
> Ok I got it. Here it is under load:
>
> http://i18.tinypic.com/82w528j.png
Right. Look at the Core Speed in the lower left. It's 2100 MHz.
Notice the multiplier right below: x7.0 It was x6 when the Core Speed
was 1800 MHz. Notice the Core Voltage. It's lower, because the system
is now under load.
Before the FSB speed was 300 MHz.
The Multiplier was x6.0. 6 X 300 = 1800 MHz
Now, the FSB is still 300 MHz, but the multiplier is x7.0. 7 X 300 =
2100 MHz
By putting a load on the CPU, Speed Step, a program within the BIOS,
increased the multiplier, so now the CPU is overclocked to 2100 MHz,
since you increased the FSB from it's normal (200, or 266 MHz), to 300
MHz.
You overclock a Intel CPU by increasing the FSB and changing the FSB
multiplier factor.
I suggest you read your motherboard manual BIOS section. It will show
where in your BIOS to go to disable Speed Step and any other items that
may change anything on-the-fly.
BTW, check what the nominal CPU core voltage is; it seems rather high,
which will raise the temps very quickly. My 6600 is 1.35V; I would
think a "slower" CPU would be, at the very least, no higher.
One more thing. Set the Vcore while there is no, or minimal load, since
it's normal for it to go lower when the CPU is running under load.
On 20 Jan, 00:21, "Phil Weldon" <not.disclo...@example.com> wrote:
> 'bornfree' wrote:
>
> | See this pic it shows my system as defined by CPU ID and prime95.
> |http://i1.tinypic.com/6ww5qht.
> _____
>
> Your reported core voltage (1.408 volts) is unnecessarily high. Dangerously
> high, in fact. So high that your overclocking would very likely limited by
> excessive heat before ANY OTHER REASON. Immediately reduce your CPU core
> voltage to the automatic default level set by your specific CPU. Do not,
> for any reason, change the automatic default core voltage UNTIL you have
> attempted a mild overclock, then increased that mild overclock until you hit
> instability.
>
> Before you post again, read my reply to another of your multiple threads
> about keeping your post organized into ONE THREAD.
I have no idea why your panties are in a twist! It's my system I am
putting at risk, not yours. Keeping your blood pressure low is much
more important than keeping your CPU in good condition.
I left all my voltages set to automatic. What do you think it should
be set to?
> Again, you are on the road to destroying your CPU. Step back, breath
> deeply
I think you are the one who needs to breathe deeply!
Dangerous CPU voltage = potential CPU failure.
Dangerous blood pressure = potential heart failure.
RobV wrote:
> bornfree wrote:
>> On 19 Jan, 22:43, "Fishface" <inva...@ddress.ok?> wrote:
>>> bornfree wrote:
>>>> CPUID still reports my clock speed to be 1.86 under "specification"
>>>> though .
>>>
>>> If SpeedStep is enabled, it will automatically slow down under load.
>>> Some report higher overclocks when this is disabled, as it lowers
>>> the voltage (vCore) also. Check it with a load.
>>>
>>> Which CPU do you have?
>>
>>
>> E6300. 2 cores.
>>
>> See this pic it shows my system as defined by CPU ID and prime95.
>> http://i1.tinypic.com/6ww5qht.png
>
> It's Intel's attempt to confuse you. ;-) In CPU-Z (and anywhere else,
> AFAIK), Intel CPUs are identified by the model number * and * the
> stock frequency.
>
> As shown in CPU-Z, Specification, you have a 6300 @ 1.86GHz.
>
> I have a 6600, which shows up in CPU-Z, Specification, as a 6600 @
> 2.4GHz
>
> Lower down at Core Speed, the actual clock speed of the CPU is listed.
> Mine is 3006 MHz. The spec and CPU information will always show 6600
> @ 2.4GHz, even if the CPU actual clock speed is higher (or lower).
>
> Now, to your system. You have the Core Voltage set to 1.408V (don't
> know if that's under load, or not).
>
> Lower left side, Core Speed is 1800 MHz, or 1.8 GHz, so you're
> underclocking the CPU. Just below, you'll see why. The multiplier is
> x6.0 and the FSB is 300 MHz, for an * effective * FSB (x4, or Quad
> Pumped) of 1200 MHz. CPU speed is x6.0 X 300 MHz FSB, which equals
> 1800 MHz.
>
> Unless you set the multiplier to x6 (the lowest, I believe), it was
> set by Speed Step, which Fishface mentioned. In BIOS, go to the
> Advanced tab, open CPU Configuration and disable Modify Ratio
> Support, then set it to the max value (or vice versa).
>
> Disable C1E
> Disable Intel Speed Step at the very bottom.
>
> This should give you a stable multiplier and Vcore so you can actually
> test the limits of the CPU, without Speed Step changing things on you.
Sorry, I've been bouncing around between some other NGs and forgot I'm
not in the Asus group. The location of the above items will probably be
in a different place in your BIOS, but the same functions will be there.
Again, take a read through the BIOS section of your manual. Each
function should be explained.
On 20 Jan, 00:11, "RobV" <r...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> bornfree wrote:
> > On 19 Jan, 22:43, "Fishface" <inva...@ddress.ok?> wrote:
> >> bornfree wrote:
> >>> CPUID still reports my clock speed to be 1.86 under "specification"
> >>> though .
>
> >> If SpeedStep is enabled, it will automatically slow down under load.
> >> Some report higher overclocks when this is disabled, as it lowers the
> >> voltage (vCore) also. Check it with a load.
>
> >> Which CPU do you have? If multi-core, sure it is stressing all
> >> cores by checking the performance tab of Windows Task Manager,
>
> > Orthos running + Windows Performace tab + temps.
>
> >http://i11.tinypic.com/850vlts.png
>
> > CPU got a bit hot. (Idle temp around 54/55)
>
> Yeah, you have Speed Step enabled. Notice it's now running at 2100 MHz,
> which means the multiplier was changed. Read my response I just posted
> to your previous post.
Thanks for all your posts Rob. Than have really helped me out here!
I am grappling with disabling speedstep. Been looking through the
manual, google, and the Bios without any luck.
According to one forum Gigabyte call it EIST (whatever that stands
for). But I can't find that either!
Anyway, thanks so far, you've been a big help.
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