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Old 10-10-2007, 11:41 PM
Michael Everson
 
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Default Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 "SYSTEM" temp

Hi Guys
I have been running water cooling on my computer for a long time with no
problems.
Now I have installed a new GeForce 8800GTS video card and since then my
"System" temp has been reaching 60deg and setting off a warning alarm. Can
anyone tell me where the "System" temp is measured?

A little more background info if needed. I have a waterblock on my CPU which
keeps it at around 35deg and I also have a water block on my northbridge
chipset. I had a GPU and RAM waterblock on my old video card but with my new
video card I am currently just using the standard cooler.


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Old 10-11-2007, 03:37 AM
kony
 
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Default Re: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 "SYSTEM" temp

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:41:08 GMT, "Michael Everson"
<spam@qeidrafting.com> wrote:

>Hi Guys
>I have been running water cooling on my computer for a long time with no
>problems.
>Now I have installed a new GeForce 8800GTS video card and since then my
>"System" temp has been reaching 60deg and setting off a warning alarm. Can
>anyone tell me where the "System" temp is measured?
>
>A little more background info if needed. I have a waterblock on my CPU which
>keeps it at around 35deg and I also have a water block on my northbridge
>chipset. I had a GPU and RAM waterblock on my old video card but with my new
>video card I am currently just using the standard cooler.
>



Try pointing a fan at the southbridge. If temp goes down it
seems to implicate it.
Sometimes Gigabyte uses some poor thermal tape instead of
proper grease or phase-change material, you might also
remove southbridge heatsink, clean the original TIM off the
SB and 'sink, lap the back of the 'sink if it's rough
(optional), and apply fresh thin layer of grease.

60' isn't alarmingly hot though, (pun intended), it may be
that you just need to set the alarm threshold higher if you
don't want to take more elaborate measures to cool it down
further (like larger heatsink (passive), fanned heatsink, or
another waterblock).
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Old 10-11-2007, 03:54 PM
GT
 
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Default Re: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 "SYSTEM" temp

"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:is2rg3pj534fl3ssec6m7k7r36c6jf4824@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:41:08 GMT, "Michael Everson"
> <spam@qeidrafting.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi Guys
>>I have been running water cooling on my computer for a long time with no
>>problems.
>>Now I have installed a new GeForce 8800GTS video card and since then my
>>"System" temp has been reaching 60deg and setting off a warning alarm. Can
>>anyone tell me where the "System" temp is measured?
>>
>>A little more background info if needed. I have a waterblock on my CPU
>>which
>>keeps it at around 35deg and I also have a water block on my northbridge
>>chipset. I had a GPU and RAM waterblock on my old video card but with my
>>new
>>video card I am currently just using the standard cooler.
>>

>
>
> Try pointing a fan at the southbridge. If temp goes down it
> seems to implicate it.
> Sometimes Gigabyte uses some poor thermal tape instead of
> proper grease or phase-change material, you might also
> remove southbridge heatsink, clean the original TIM off the
> SB and 'sink, lap the back of the 'sink if it's rough
> (optional), and apply fresh thin layer of grease.
>
> 60' isn't alarmingly hot though, (pun intended), it may be
> that you just need to set the alarm threshold higher if you
> don't want to take more elaborate measures to cool it down
> further (like larger heatsink (passive), fanned heatsink, or
> another waterblock).


Or just more case cooling - Water cooling took all the heat away before, now
there is a graphics card which is putting out heat that case fans didn't
have to deal with before and if the case is not well ventillated, the air in
there will be hot, which might overheat the hard disks and maybe other bits
too.

Try running with the side off the case for a while and see what the
temperature reaches then. If it drop by a good few degrees, then a bit of
case airflow is required.


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Old 10-11-2007, 10:12 PM
kony
 
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Default Re: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 "SYSTEM" temp

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:54:15 +0100, "GT"
<ContactGT_remove_@hotmail.com> wrote:


>> Try pointing a fan at the southbridge. If temp goes down it
>> seems to implicate it.
>> Sometimes Gigabyte uses some poor thermal tape instead of
>> proper grease or phase-change material, you might also
>> remove southbridge heatsink, clean the original TIM off the
>> SB and 'sink, lap the back of the 'sink if it's rough
>> (optional), and apply fresh thin layer of grease.
>>
>> 60' isn't alarmingly hot though, (pun intended), it may be
>> that you just need to set the alarm threshold higher if you
>> don't want to take more elaborate measures to cool it down
>> further (like larger heatsink (passive), fanned heatsink, or
>> another waterblock).

>
>Or just more case cooling - Water cooling took all the heat away before, now
>there is a graphics card which is putting out heat that case fans didn't
>have to deal with before and if the case is not well ventillated, the air in
>there will be hot, which might overheat the hard disks and maybe other bits
>too.
>
>Try running with the side off the case for a while and see what the
>temperature reaches then. If it drop by a good few degrees, then a bit of
>case airflow is required.
>


Addt'l case cooling will tend to help. Previously I had
made the false assumption that the video card was probably
exhausting towards the front of the case, blowing directly
towards where the southbridge is on that particular board,
http://www.matbe.com/images/biblio/a...0000047284.jpg
but now realizing that it's an 8800GTS and that they usually
intake on the rear and exhaust out the case rear
bracket/slot, it would seem the primary difference is that
the length and double-thickness of the card reduces the
airflow level past the southbridge.

That is, if it's even the southbridge reporting the temp.
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:10 PM
Michael Everson
 
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Default Re: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 "SYSTEM" temp

Yeah I will have to investigate if it's the southbridge temp that is being
reported. Hopefully I can get a waterblock to go on to it.


"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:ft3tg3pv2ljbq0gt9s04n1c717uoiuhs51@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:54:15 +0100, "GT"
> <ContactGT_remove_@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> Try pointing a fan at the southbridge. If temp goes down it
>>> seems to implicate it.
>>> Sometimes Gigabyte uses some poor thermal tape instead of
>>> proper grease or phase-change material, you might also
>>> remove southbridge heatsink, clean the original TIM off the
>>> SB and 'sink, lap the back of the 'sink if it's rough
>>> (optional), and apply fresh thin layer of grease.
>>>
>>> 60' isn't alarmingly hot though, (pun intended), it may be
>>> that you just need to set the alarm threshold higher if you
>>> don't want to take more elaborate measures to cool it down
>>> further (like larger heatsink (passive), fanned heatsink, or
>>> another waterblock).

>>
>>Or just more case cooling - Water cooling took all the heat away before,
>>now
>>there is a graphics card which is putting out heat that case fans didn't
>>have to deal with before and if the case is not well ventillated, the air
>>in
>>there will be hot, which might overheat the hard disks and maybe other
>>bits
>>too.
>>
>>Try running with the side off the case for a while and see what the
>>temperature reaches then. If it drop by a good few degrees, then a bit of
>>case airflow is required.
>>

>
> Addt'l case cooling will tend to help. Previously I had
> made the false assumption that the video card was probably
> exhausting towards the front of the case, blowing directly
> towards where the southbridge is on that particular board,
> http://www.matbe.com/images/biblio/a...0000047284.jpg
> but now realizing that it's an 8800GTS and that they usually
> intake on the rear and exhaust out the case rear
> bracket/slot, it would seem the primary difference is that
> the length and double-thickness of the card reduces the
> airflow level past the southbridge.
>
> That is, if it's even the southbridge reporting the temp.



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Old 01-11-2008, 12:34 AM
Kris
 
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Default Re: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 "SYSTEM" temp

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:41:08 GMT, Michael Everson wrote:

> Hi Guys
> I have been running water cooling on my computer for a long time with no
> problems.
> Now I have installed a new GeForce 8800GTS video card and since then my
> "System" temp has been reaching 60deg and setting off a warning alarm. Can
> anyone tell me where the "System" temp is measured?
>
> A little more background info if needed. I have a waterblock on my CPU which
> keeps it at around 35deg and I also have a water block on my northbridge
> chipset. I had a GPU and RAM waterblock on my old video card but with my new
> video card I am currently just using the standard cooler.


Just got one yesterday so it's still lying on its side with the cover off.
Your question got me to try temp cooling the SB, then NB, then mem - no
change. It's somewhere around the 3 PCI sockets - I pointed an 80-mm fan
on a tube straight down in there next to the vid card and it went right
down.
hth
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-----
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OnAir USB HDTV-GT with 5.1Dolby and Purevideo Silver,
Logitech 5.1 speakers, Sam 931B 19" LCD monitor, Comcast
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:43 AM
Michael Everson
 
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Default Re: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 "SYSTEM" temp

Excellent, thanks muchly for your reply!

"Kris" <a@b.net> wrote in message news:bj89a146dq18.dlg@myhost7.org...
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:41:08 GMT, Michael Everson wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys
>> I have been running water cooling on my computer for a long time with no
>> problems.
>> Now I have installed a new GeForce 8800GTS video card and since then my
>> "System" temp has been reaching 60deg and setting off a warning alarm.
>> Can
>> anyone tell me where the "System" temp is measured?
>>
>> A little more background info if needed. I have a waterblock on my CPU
>> which
>> keeps it at around 35deg and I also have a water block on my northbridge
>> chipset. I had a GPU and RAM waterblock on my old video card but with my
>> new
>> video card I am currently just using the standard cooler.

>
> Just got one yesterday so it's still lying on its side with the cover off.
> Your question got me to try temp cooling the SB, then NB, then mem - no
> change. It's somewhere around the 3 PCI sockets - I pointed an 80-mm fan
> on a tube straight down in there next to the vid card and it went right
> down.
> hth
> --
> Kris
> -----
> GB GA-P35-DS3L, [temp((1.6 400 Conroe Cel, 667 Patriot 1gb))],
> MSI NX8600GTS 256mb, Audigy 7.1 capable 24 bit,
> OnAir USB HDTV-GT with 5.1Dolby and Purevideo Silver,
> Logitech 5.1 speakers, Sam 931B 19" LCD monitor, Comcast
> cable, Linksys WRT54G router, Raidmax RX530-SS psu,
> XPfirewall, AntiVir, XP Pro SP 2



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Old 01-11-2008, 12:54 AM
kony
 
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Default Re: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 "SYSTEM" temp

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:34:14 -0500, Kris <a@b.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:41:08 GMT, Michael Everson wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys
>> I have been running water cooling on my computer for a long time with no
>> problems.
>> Now I have installed a new GeForce 8800GTS video card and since then my
>> "System" temp has been reaching 60deg and setting off a warning alarm. Can
>> anyone tell me where the "System" temp is measured?
>>
>> A little more background info if needed. I have a waterblock on my CPU which
>> keeps it at around 35deg and I also have a water block on my northbridge
>> chipset. I had a GPU and RAM waterblock on my old video card but with my new
>> video card I am currently just using the standard cooler.

>
>Just got one yesterday so it's still lying on its side with the cover off.
>Your question got me to try temp cooling the SB, then NB, then mem - no
>change. It's somewhere around the 3 PCI sockets - I pointed an 80-mm fan
>on a tube straight down in there next to the vid card and it went right
>down.
>hth

41

The thread is now fragmented from either old age or title
change so I don't have all the other info. What are you
using to see this "System" temp? If not the motherboard
manufacturer's software it is possible it is the video card
instead of the motherboard itself. To rule this out you
might look in your video card Display Properties, in the
nVidia driver menus there may be a temp report page. If
not, updating the video driver might show this page, and/or
Google search for "Coolbits", a registry entry, then apply
that and again look in the Display Properties driver menus
for the temp report to see if it is around 60C.

If it is not the CPU, north or southbridge and not the video
card, it may just be an erroneous warning that shouldn't be
going off. You might then check on a bios update in case
the board bios has a bug about this. That is, if it isn't
just a 3rd party software that is incorrectly reporting the
temp.
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Old 01-11-2008, 01:03 AM
Kris
 
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Default Re: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 "SYSTEM" temp

You're very welcome! It's always fun playing with a new toy!!! )


On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:43:11 GMT, Michael Everson wrote:

> Excellent, thanks muchly for your reply!
>
> "Kris" <a@b.net> wrote in message news:bj89a146dq18.dlg@myhost7.org...
>> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:41:08 GMT, Michael Everson wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Guys
>>> I have been running water cooling on my computer for a long time with no
>>> problems.
>>> Now I have installed a new GeForce 8800GTS video card and since then my
>>> "System" temp has been reaching 60deg and setting off a warning alarm.
>>> Can
>>> anyone tell me where the "System" temp is measured?
>>>
>>> A little more background info if needed. I have a waterblock on my CPU
>>> which
>>> keeps it at around 35deg and I also have a water block on my northbridge
>>> chipset. I had a GPU and RAM waterblock on my old video card but with my
>>> new
>>> video card I am currently just using the standard cooler.

>>
>> Just got one yesterday so it's still lying on its side with the cover off.
>> Your question got me to try temp cooling the SB, then NB, then mem - no
>> change. It's somewhere around the 3 PCI sockets - I pointed an 80-mm fan
>> on a tube straight down in there next to the vid card and it went right
>> down.
>> hth
>> --
>> Kris
>> -----
>> GB GA-P35-DS3L, [temp((1.6 400 Conroe Cel, 667 Patriot 1gb))],
>> MSI NX8600GTS 256mb, Audigy 7.1 capable 24 bit,
>> OnAir USB HDTV-GT with 5.1Dolby and Purevideo Silver,
>> Logitech 5.1 speakers, Sam 931B 19" LCD monitor, Comcast
>> cable, Linksys WRT54G router, Raidmax RX530-SS psu,
>> XPfirewall, AntiVir, XP Pro SP 2

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Old 01-11-2008, 01:13 AM
Michael Everson
 
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Default Re: Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 "SYSTEM" temp

It's the gigabyte system monitor that is giving me the "System" temp. The
gigabyte system monitor wouldnt read the video card's temp and then show it
in the "system" zone would it? I'll check tonight if the system temp and
video card temp (from display properties) are actually the same.


"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:34:14 -0500, Kris <a@b.net> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:41:08 GMT, Michael Everson wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Guys
>>> I have been running water cooling on my computer for a long time with no
>>> problems.
>>> Now I have installed a new GeForce 8800GTS video card and since then my
>>> "System" temp has been reaching 60deg and setting off a warning alarm.
>>> Can
>>> anyone tell me where the "System" temp is measured?
>>>
>>> A little more background info if needed. I have a waterblock on my CPU
>>> which
>>> keeps it at around 35deg and I also have a water block on my northbridge
>>> chipset. I had a GPU and RAM waterblock on my old video card but with my
>>> new
>>> video card I am currently just using the standard cooler.

>>
>>Just got one yesterday so it's still lying on its side with the cover off.
>>Your question got me to try temp cooling the SB, then NB, then mem - no
>>change. It's somewhere around the 3 PCI sockets - I pointed an 80-mm fan
>>on a tube straight down in there next to the vid card and it went right
>>down.
>>hth

> 41
>
> The thread is now fragmented from either old age or title
> change so I don't have all the other info. What are you
> using to see this "System" temp? If not the motherboard
> manufacturer's software it is possible it is the video card
> instead of the motherboard itself. To rule this out you
> might look in your video card Display Properties, in the
> nVidia driver menus there may be a temp report page. If
> not, updating the video driver might show this page, and/or
> Google search for "Coolbits", a registry entry, then apply
> that and again look in the Display Properties driver menus
> for the temp report to see if it is around 60C.
>
> If it is not the CPU, north or southbridge and not the video
> card, it may just be an erroneous warning that shouldn't be
> going off. You might then check on a bios update in case
> the board bios has a bug about this. That is, if it isn't
> just a 3rd party software that is incorrectly reporting the
> temp.



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