"John Whitworth" <sexyjw@g_EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE_mail.com> wrote in message
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> The 3500+ was originally in my old Asus A8V. But for some reason, when I
> upgraded to my Core 2 Duo system, that A8V died. So we got him a budget
> board replacement, an ECS KV2 Lite. I've just checked CPU support, and it
> seems to support all S939 CPUs, but no mention of Opterons!
"John Whitworth" <sexyjw@g_EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE_mail.com> wrote in message
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> "John Whitworth" <sexyjw@g_EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE_mail.com> wrote in message
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>
>> The 3500+ was originally in my old Asus A8V. But for some reason, when I
>> upgraded to my Core 2 Duo system, that A8V died. So we got him a budget
>> board replacement, an ECS KV2 Lite. I've just checked CPU support, and it
>> seems to support all S939 CPUs, but no mention of Opterons!
>
> Does this sound like good advice?
>
> http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=519736
Go to the source. According to the link below, the latest BIOS update from
Jan 2007 shows added support for the AMD Socket 939 Rev:E6 family. This
includes the Opteron 180. So you'll need to update the ECS BIOS to get
support. http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Pro...uID=47&LanID=9
"Augustus" <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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> "John Whitworth" <sexyjw@g_EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE_mail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> Does this sound like good advice?
>>
>> http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=519736
>
> Go to the source. According to the link below, the latest BIOS update from
> Jan 2007 shows added support for the AMD Socket 939 Rev:E6 family. This
> includes the Opteron 180. So you'll need to update the ECS BIOS to get
> support.
> http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Pro...uID=47&LanID=9
Thanks. I'll have to check later though...the link appears dead from here!
As a slight aside though, the price of the 175s, 180s and 185s is a lot
higher than some of the Athlon 64 X2 4200+ and 4400+ are going for. Are they
really that much better?
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:09:58 +0000, John Whitworth wrote:
> "Augustus" <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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>> "John Whitworth" <sexyjw@g_EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE_mail.com> wrote in message
>> news:47c1d4f1$0$8426$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
>>>
>>> Does this sound like good advice?
>>>
>>> http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=519736
>>
>> Go to the source. According to the link below, the latest BIOS update
>> from Jan 2007 shows added support for the AMD Socket 939 Rev:E6 family.
>> This includes the Opteron 180. So you'll need to update the ECS BIOS to
>> get support.
>> http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Pro...tsDetail.aspx?
detailid=497&DetailName=Bios&MenuID=47&LanID=9
>
> Thanks. I'll have to check later though...the link appears dead from
> here!
>
> As a slight aside though, the price of the 175s, 180s and 185s is a lot
> higher than some of the Athlon 64 X2 4200+ and 4400+ are going for. Are
> they really that much better?
>
> JW
The X2 4400+ and the Opteron 180 are the same part, 2.4GHz Dual Core with
1M caches. I didn't think the 4400+ was available anymore, Newegg only
has the Opteron. If you can get a 4400+ for less than the 180 then that's
what you should do.
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:18:05 -0600, General Schvantzkopf wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:09:58 +0000, John Whitworth wrote:
>
>> "Augustus" <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>> news:ZYkwj.57811$C61.27625@edtnps89...
>>>
>>> "John Whitworth" <sexyjw@g_EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE_mail.com> wrote in
>>> message news:47c1d4f1$0$8426$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
>>>>
>>>> Does this sound like good advice?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=519736
>>>
>>> Go to the source. According to the link below, the latest BIOS update
>>> from Jan 2007 shows added support for the AMD Socket 939 Rev:E6
>>> family. This includes the Opteron 180. So you'll need to update the
>>> ECS BIOS to get support.
>>> http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Pro...tsDetail.aspx?
> detailid=497&DetailName=Bios&MenuID=47&LanID=9
>>
>> Thanks. I'll have to check later though...the link appears dead from
>> here!
>>
>> As a slight aside though, the price of the 175s, 180s and 185s is a lot
>> higher than some of the Athlon 64 X2 4200+ and 4400+ are going for. Are
>> they really that much better?
>>
>> JW
>
> The X2 4400+ and the Opteron 180 are the same part, 2.4GHz Dual Core
> with 1M caches. I didn't think the 4400+ was available anymore, Newegg
> only has the Opteron. If you can get a 4400+ for less than the 180 then
> that's what you should do.
Sorry the 939 X2 4400+ is 2.2GHz, the 180 is 2.4GHz. Don't confuse it
with the AM2 X2 4400+ which is 2.3GHz with 1/2M caches. The AM2 parts are
much cheaper than the 939 parts.
"General Schvantzkopf" <schvantzkopf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:18:05 -0600, General Schvantzkopf wrote:
>
> Sorry the 939 X2 4400+ is 2.2GHz, the 180 is 2.4GHz. Don't confuse it
> with the AM2 X2 4400+ which is 2.3GHz with 1/2M caches. The AM2 parts are
> much cheaper than the 939 parts.
OK...thanks. I think I'll digest this properly in the morning, and then work
out my eBay gameplan! :-)
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:03:58 +0000, John Whitworth wrote:
> "General Schvantzkopf" <schvantzkopf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:F4udnUQY6aSgc1zanZ2dnUVZ_qrinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:18:05 -0600, General Schvantzkopf wrote:
>>
>> Sorry the 939 X2 4400+ is 2.2GHz, the 180 is 2.4GHz. Don't confuse it
>> with the AM2 X2 4400+ which is 2.3GHz with 1/2M caches. The AM2 parts
>> are much cheaper than the 939 parts.
>
> OK...thanks. I think I'll digest this properly in the morning, and then
> work out my eBay gameplan! :-)
>
> JW
I don't want to belabor the obvious but if you are seeing cheep prices
for a 4400+ it's probably for the socket AM2 which is useless to you.
When I Googled the 939 4400+ the prices were $240-$250. The Opteron 175
(which is identical to a 4400+) is $150, the 180 which is 2.4GHz is $170.
"John Whitworth" <sexyjw@g_EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE_mail.com> wrote in message
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> "Dr.White" <akai.electric.co@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...atid=6&subcat=
>>
>> £35.24 including VAT. They are an excellent online vendor in the UK.
>>
>> Oh, In answer to your question on whether it will run faster, though I
>> don't have an AMD dual-core, if they're anything like even the bottom-end
>> Intel chips, yes - multiple apps will run much, much more smoothly, if
>> the mainboard will work with a dual core CPU.
>>
> Thanks, I found that a little after I posted. Just not massively confident
> that it will be worth it, and was eyeing up the 4200+ or 4400+ instead.
>
> As I was browsing eBay, I came across this clown:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=015
>
> The "Just to let you know" comment was added after my Question to him,
> which he has replied to and made public.
>
>
>
> JW
Christ, he was only asking £120 for it! But then, you do pay a premium for
those "gaming processors".... You'll be devastated to hear that it didn't
sell.....
"Dr.White" <akai.electric.co@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> Christ, he was only asking £120 for it! But then, you do pay a premium for
> those "gaming processors".... You'll be devastated to hear that it didn't
> sell.....
He's relisted it. Item 250220077728. Perhaps someone should ask him whether
this is one of the processors where the HSF is permanently bonded to the
CPU? :-)
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