Any application that warns of high temperature?

Somewhere on teh interweb Dr.White typed:
> "~misfit~" <misfit61nz@yahoot.com.au> wrote in message
> news:47573f10$1@news2.actrix.gen.nz...
>> Somewhere on teh interweb Phil Weldon typed:
>>
>>
>> <mucho snipping>
>>
>>> I long for the days of the rock solid Motherboard Monitor.
>>
>> So do I! I still have it installed on this machine, (P5K-E) mainly
>> for it's ability to track the temps of the 3 Seagate SATA HDDs and
>> keep a record of high/low/average temps over a "session".
>>
>> (However, sadly, it won't pick up the temp sensor in an IDE HDD that
>> I just connected via the on-board JMicron controller. Niether will
>> Speedfan 4.33. I really dislike not knowing a temp, especially as this
>> HDD
>> isn't in as good an area of airflow as the SATA drives so I can't
>> really extrapolate, or interpolate, or accurately guess, whichever
>> is the correct term. <g>)
>>
>>> I'd be grateful for suggestions of other system health monitor
>>> utilities.
>>
>> As would I Phil, as would I. I'd love to have an idea of that IDE HDD
>> temp. Even a snap-shot of it so I can compare it to other temp and
>> get some idea of where it stands.
>>
>> I've been particularly paranoid about HDD temps ever since my
>> flatmate "cooked" a new Samsung Spinpoint by situating it in a "dead
>> air" area of the case, in a 5 1/2" bay between two optical drives.
>> No amount of tweaking will make that drive reliable again, including
>> Samsung's utility (that's supposed to re-map bad sectors) and
>> SpinRite 6.0. A New Zealand summer can get hot. Dead spots inside
>> computer cases can get hotter still. :-(
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Shaun.
> Hello mate,

Hey buddy,

> I wonder if S.M.A.R.T. is enabled for your IDE HDD via the Jmicron
> controller or your BIOS, or maybe even through a download from the HDD
> vendor's site. For instance, Hitachi offer downloads such as drive
> fitness test for their drives.

Well, I updated the JMicron RAID software and still nothing, neither
SpeedFan or MBM found it. I decided to temporarilly install a PCI IDE/SATA
card that I used in my old machine and that worked fine with SpeedFan and
MBM. I hooked the HDD up to that, booted into Windows, installed the
software, rebooted and still no luck. Which is odd IMO. As I said, using an
nForce2 board both utilities could read the temp sensor.

I'm thinking that the southbridge/PCI thingy isn't letting the signal
through? Actually, buggered if I know. <shrug>

> Speedfan 4.33 is ok with my drive, it provides a temperature plus an
> in-depth analysis of the fitness, performance, graphs, all that
> stuff, and the good man Alfredo who writes Speedfan is, as I stated
> before, most helpful and doesn't mind responding to queries via email.
>
> Cooked a Spinpoint eh? That's worrying news. I'd be interested to
> know what temps caused that sort of problem

I'm not sure to be honest. Flatmate took PC away over Xmas hollidays at
folks place, stayed in a caravan with PC. Interior of the caravan got to
40°C+ so that would have made the case 50°C+ and the HDD probably 60°C+.
They're not specced for that. Maybe 50° max but certainly not over 60.

> - I think I told you
> about that 10,000rpm drive inside one of my samplers - there's no
> room around it except maybe 5mm either side, all I could do was wire
> a tiny fan to the PSU and blow re-circulated air at it.

No way to vent it to outside the "case"?

> It's rated to
> run at 65C, all I know is it's too hot to keep your finger on for
> more than about 10 seconds.

That sounds hot. Finger... 10 seconds.... maybe just over 50°? Be nice if
you could get it down a bit.

> Inside my non-ventilated case, the hottest I can get my drive is
> about 47C.

Ow! A bit hot for my liking. Although I just checked SMART data with
SpeedFan for the 3 drives it *does* see and highest temp is 40, 40 and 44. I
don't know when they would have got that hot, I'm really particular about
temps as I said. It was quite a hot day today (29°), getting towards the hot
part of the year and my HDD temps only got to 34°. I guess on the odd day we
have that gets to the low/mid 30's the HDD temp would approach 40.

It'd be interesting to see what SMART gives for a "new" HDD.

> Three years of hammer this drive has taken, and S.M.A.R.T.
> reports 94% fitness / performance, some figure to do with the spin-up
> time is the only parameter that is not 100%.

SMART is a bit of a secret society type-thing. Nobody seems to know for sure
the minutia of it's implimentation. For instance, while (IME) Seagate drives
seem to give reasonably accurate data Samsung often give gibberish (even
before you cook them <g>) and Maxtor give odd readings. I'm yet to see a HDD
get much higher than about 96%.

In fact I'm just benching/OCing a new build for a mate. It's got a new 500GB
Seagate SATA II model .11 drive. It's only been here from new. Fitness and
performance are both 92% according to SpeedFan's SMART tab. Also, current
temp is 27° (120mm front fan blowing directly into HDD bay). However, it's
saying that worst temp was 51°! Perhaps they test drives before sending them
out of the factory, I can't see any other way it would have hit 51°.

I didn't think my HDDs had got over 40°C.

> With a well ventilated
> case such as yours, I think it's very unlikely that heat damage would
> occur. There wouldn't be any dead spots with your positive pressure
> setup, would there?

Well, actually, there's just the one that could be dodgy. Right where the
IDE HDD is mounted. As my case has 9 full size bays and the JMicron IDE is
right at the bottom of the mobo I have an IDE optical drive in the bottom
bay. Then I have two bays that were empty as the 7800GT blows it's hot air
towards the front there. That's where I put the drive as it's close to the
controller and the only place the ribbon reaches. Above that the 120mm fan
is mounted blowing in over the 3 SATA drives. So the IDE drive is in an area
between inflow and outflow, right where the graphics card (the hottest thing
in the case) is blowing it's exhaust. That's why I'm interested to know it's
temp. It won't be really bad, just probably hotter than the others.

Cheers my good man,
--
Shaun.