> For 'Riva Tuner "optimize" mainly means increasing clock speeds to get
> better than factory performance.
Insatalled and activated. Let's monitor the new behaviour..
> Does your 6200 LE even HAVE a cooling fan?
No. But if you touch it when it's working you burn your finger! Is it
normal?
> size, memory bus width. If you still require help with your problem, post
> the exact model and manufacture of your GeForce 6200 LE, whether it has a
I don't know how to get it, please suggest me how to.
> fan or not,
No
> the room ambient temperature,
It's my room (I suppose about from 20 to 30 °C)
> the air temperature inside the
> system case,
Oh..
> and the specifications for the rest of your system, including
> the number of case fans. With such a low power graphics card, any heat
> problems would have to be from one or more of a poor interface between the
> heatsink and the GPU, insufficient system case ventilation, failed GPU
> heatsink fan, and/or dust and grease clogged GPU heatsink fins.
Well, these are the tempeatures of GPU/CPU1/CPU2 after Windows started up:
60°C 45°C 40°C
then if I work for about 10-20 minutes these these the new temperatures:
75°C 45°C 43°C
and if you go on the work hardly, the first temp (GPU) goes to about 80°C.
I don't know if it's okay. What I'd like to know is the temperatures
declared by Nvidia for my graphic card in order to determine if mine are
good or not.
> larger jump than normal in time, you then need to clean the dust out of
> the HSF.
What's HSF?
> Each case and configuration is different, someone might get 50c at idle
> with one card another might get 45c, while yet another gets 60c
I see..
> Higher temperatures can take away card life from the far end, but do not
> worry too much about high temps and card life, I have had a 7950GT,
> fanless, that typically runs at 90c under load and has for 2 years.
I only want to determine the cause of my blocks to avoid them, I could not
care of all the temperatures.. :-)
Mhaxx wrote:
>> For 'Riva Tuner "optimize" mainly means increasing clock speeds to get
>> better than factory performance.
>
> Insatalled and activated. Let's monitor the new behaviour..
>
>> Does your 6200 LE even HAVE a cooling fan?
>
> No. But if you touch it when it's working you burn your finger! Is it
> normal?
>
>> size, memory bus width. If you still require help with your problem, post
>> the exact model and manufacture of your GeForce 6200 LE, whether it has a
>
> I don't know how to get it, please suggest me how to.
>
>> fan or not,
>
> No
>
>> the room ambient temperature,
>
> It's my room (I suppose about from 20 to 30 °C)
>
>> the air temperature inside the
>> system case,
>
> Oh..
>
>> and the specifications for the rest of your system, including
>> the number of case fans. With such a low power graphics card, any heat
>> problems would have to be from one or more of a poor interface between the
>> heatsink and the GPU, insufficient system case ventilation, failed GPU
>> heatsink fan, and/or dust and grease clogged GPU heatsink fins.
>
> Well, these are the tempeatures of GPU/CPU1/CPU2 after Windows started up:
>
> 60°C 45°C 40°C
>
> then if I work for about 10-20 minutes these these the new temperatures:
>
> 75°C 45°C 43°C
>
> and if you go on the work hardly, the first temp (GPU) goes to about 80°C.
>
> I don't know if it's okay. What I'd like to know is the temperatures
> declared by Nvidia for my graphic card in order to determine if mine are
> good or not.
>
> Massimo
>
If you purchase an 80mm computer case cooling fan, and position it
next to the video card heatsink, your cooling problem will be solved.
I do that for a couple FX5200 video cards I have here, which are
fanless. One was unstable when it got hot, and the addition of a
cooling fan fixed it.
Integrated circuits can have several temperature limits
1) Silicon die temperature. At one time, I was told that 135C was a
practical limit. That limit will change with technology, so the
figure may have changed over the years.
2) Simulation temperature. This is the temperature at which operation
is guaranteed correct. A designer could set the simulator for 105C
or 110C, or whatever the industry practice happens to be. The design
should be stable at that temperature, in order for the simulation to
pass.
3) Packaging limitations. Ceramic packaging for ICs, would allow a
higher operating temperature. But "organic" substrates are cheaper,
and have lower temperature limits. The limit may be caused
by thermal expansion differences, or degradation of the material
due to the temperature. Perhaps 95C or 100C is the limit. Hard to
say. You would have to find the packaging manual (for say, TSMC),
and see what kind of packages they provide.
Very few companies provide public datasheets for the things they
build. Many want an NDA (non-disclosure agreement) signed, before
they will provide details about what they make. Nvidia does not
provide public datasheets, that I've seen. So there is no reason
for Tcase_max or Tjmax temperatures to be public knowledge.
If you find the video card is failing to work correctly, then you have
a strong incentive to add additional cooling.
If the video card works, but runs hot on a continuous basis, that could
affect the lifetime for the card. It is hard for me to predict what
that impact might be. There have been video cards with a 10% per year
failure rate, but those cards are more aggressively designed than your
video card.
I feel that buying a fanless video card, and adding my own 80mm fan to
cool it, is superior to buying a video card with its own fan. If my
80mm fan fails to work correctly, it can cheaply and easily be replaced.
The tiny fans on video cards, are harder to replace, and you won't find
many suppliers who carry them.
> I feel that buying a fanless video card, and adding my own 80mm fan to
> cool it, is superior to buying a video card with its own fan. If my
I assume you suggest to add my fan own fan to video card, anyway first of
all it's important to determine if the cause of my PC freeze is the video
card! I'm monitoring the GPU temperature in order to verify if when it
occurs the temperature is high. To do this I need to know when you can
consider high my video card. I think over 85-90°C, anyway I though you could
tell me exactly the work range of my GPU..
Mhaxx wrote:
>> I feel that buying a fanless video card, and adding my own 80mm fan to
>> cool it, is superior to buying a video card with its own fan. If my
>
> I assume you suggest to add my fan own fan to video card, anyway first of
> all it's important to determine if the cause of my PC freeze is the video
> card! I'm monitoring the GPU temperature in order to verify if when it
> occurs the temperature is high. To do this I need to know when you can
> consider high my video card. I think over 85-90°C, anyway I though you could
> tell me exactly the work range of my GPU..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mhaxx
>
>
At some point you are going to realize the only important temperature is
the temperature that when surpassed, causes malfunction.
Mhaxx wrote:
>> I feel that buying a fanless video card, and adding my own 80mm fan to
>> cool it, is superior to buying a video card with its own fan. If my
>
> I assume you suggest to add my fan own fan to video card, anyway first of
> all it's important to determine if the cause of my PC freeze is the video
> card! I'm monitoring the GPU temperature in order to verify if when it
> occurs the temperature is high. To do this I need to know when you can
> consider high my video card. I think over 85-90°C, anyway I though you could
> tell me exactly the work range of my GPU..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mhaxx
Why not try pointing a fan at the video card, as a test, and see if
the stability is affected or not. All I can tell you, is I had one
low end card, a fanless one, and adding a separate fan fixed it.
No more problems while gaming with it.
> > I assume you suggest to add my fan own fan to video card, anyway first
of
> > all it's important to determine if the cause of my PC freeze is the
video
> > card! I'm monitoring the GPU temperature in order to verify if when it
> > occurs the temperature is high. To do this I need to know when you can
> > consider high my video card. I think over 85-90°C, anyway I though you
could
> > tell me exactly the work range of my GPU..
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