PowerDVD v7's "Enable hardware acceleration (nVidia PureVideo)" givesme corruption in fullscreen.

Hello,

How come I get video corruptions when I check "Enable hardware
acceleration (nVidia PureVideo)" option in fullscreen? Here's a screen
capture as an example:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6823/pdvd000cr1.png (a screen capture
from original Ocean 11 movie on DVD). I do not get corruptions if
PowerDVD is in windowed mode or disable it.

I tried both single display mode and clone (640x480 resolution on TV)
display modes. I assume my latest NVIDIA driver
(169.44_forceware_winxp_32bit_english_beta.exe) has PureVideo feature
based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVIDIA_PureVideo ... In order to
get no corruption in fullscreen, I have to disable this HW acceleration
which gives me lower performance.

I am using Windows XP Pro. SP2 with all updates, IE6.0 SP2, DirectX 9.0c
(March 2008), an eVGA GeForce 7950 GT KO (512 MB; PCIe), etc. See
http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm.../computers.txt for the full
specifications (primary computer).

Thank you in advance.
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"Ant" <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> How come I get video corruptions when I check "Enable hardware
> acceleration (nVidia PureVideo)" option in fullscreen? Here's a screen
> capture as an example:
> http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6823/pdvd000cr1.png (a screen capture
> from original Ocean 11 movie on DVD). I do not get corruptions if PowerDVD
> is in windowed mode or disable it.
>
> I tried both single display mode and clone (640x480 resolution on TV)
> display modes. I assume my latest NVIDIA driver
> (169.44_forceware_winxp_32bit_english_beta.exe) has PureVideo feature
> based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVIDIA_PureVideo ... In order to get
> no corruption in fullscreen, I have to disable this HW acceleration which
> gives me lower performance.
>
I have a old copy of Power DVD and when I was running ATI cards I could turn
on "Hardware Acceleration" But soon after I installed my 8800GT I went to
watch a DVD and the screen was black. I totally freaked out and it took me a
few minutes to figure out that I should try unchecking the "Hardware
Acceleration" box. As soon as I did that it worked perfectly. I've since
learned that with today's powerful CPU's that it's not necessary to use the
GPU to Watch video.

On 3/16/2008 11:41 AM PT, JLC typed:

>> How come I get video corruptions when I check "Enable hardware
>> acceleration (nVidia PureVideo)" option in fullscreen? Here's a screen
>> capture as an example:
>> http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6823/pdvd000cr1.png (a screen capture
>> from original Ocean 11 movie on DVD). I do not get corruptions if PowerDVD
>> is in windowed mode or disable it.
>>
>> I tried both single display mode and clone (640x480 resolution on TV)
>> display modes. I assume my latest NVIDIA driver
>> (169.44_forceware_winxp_32bit_english_beta.exe) has PureVideo feature
>> based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVIDIA_PureVideo ... In order to get
>> no corruption in fullscreen, I have to disable this HW acceleration which
>> gives me lower performance.
>>
> I have a old copy of Power DVD and when I was running ATI cards I could turn
> on "Hardware Acceleration" But soon after I installed my 8800GT I went to
> watch a DVD and the screen was black. I totally freaked out and it took me a
> few minutes to figure out that I should try unchecking the "Hardware
> Acceleration" box. As soon as I did that it worked perfectly. I've since
> learned that with today's powerful CPU's that it's not necessary to use the
> GPU to Watch video.

Geez, NVIDIA is messing up their drivers badly.
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Ant wrote:

> Geez, NVIDIA is messing up their drivers badly.

Their best guys are currently on CUDA, and the DX10 thing is new and no
one has a clue to how to get it working right, the few that do aren't
telling.

The good news is the fusion of ntune and forceware seems to have finally
succeeded, even though the GUI and logic of the new control panel seems
to have been designed by Shiva with consult to the Lady of Pain. You can
adjust any and all supported mobo electrical specifications from Windows
without a reboot with built in benchmarking and detailed profiling and
hardware management, it's all there and it works well.

Also, the DX9 code paths are pretty solid, most games run at absurdly
high FPS, with unthinkable amounts of filtering, with low wattage
requirements digital or along outputs available stably, 24/7, with
widespread availability and any price point to suit your budget.

Remarkable when you think about what they have accomplished.

Before you get all worked up about this, what are the CPU utilization
numbers with hardware acceleration enabled versus disabled?

For reference, playing The Bourne Ultimatum DVD, on my Athlon64 X2 4400+
(2.2 GHz) the CPU utilization hovers between 4% and 8% with Media Player
Classic's built-in software decoder.

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"Ant" <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> How come I get video corruptions when I check "Enable hardware
> acceleration (nVidia PureVideo)" option in fullscreen? Here's a screen
> capture as an example:
> http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6823/pdvd000cr1.png (a screen capture
> from original Ocean 11 movie on DVD). I do not get corruptions if PowerDVD
> is in windowed mode or disable it.
>
> I tried both single display mode and clone (640x480 resolution on TV)
> display modes. I assume my latest NVIDIA driver
> (169.44_forceware_winxp_32bit_english_beta.exe) has PureVideo feature
> based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVIDIA_PureVideo ... In order to get
> no corruption in fullscreen, I have to disable this HW acceleration which
> gives me lower performance.
>
> I am using Windows XP Pro. SP2 with all updates, IE6.0 SP2, DirectX 9.0c
> (March 2008), an eVGA GeForce 7950 GT KO (512 MB; PCIe), etc. See
> http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm.../computers.txt for the full
> specifications (primary computer).
>
> Thank you in advance.

On 3/16/2008 2:02 PM PT, Mr.E Solved! typed:

> Ant wrote:
>
>> Geez, NVIDIA is messing up their drivers badly.
>
> Their best guys are currently on CUDA, and the DX10 thing is new and no
> one has a clue to how to get it working right, the few that do aren't
> telling.

What does CUDA stand for? Man, why can't NVIDIA hire more people. Geez.
NVIDIA makes a lot of money now! I thibk I am going to go have back to
ATI/AMD video cards for my next video card upgrade since I read 8800
cards can't do fullscreen TV overlays! I watch TV from my computers
beside gaming!!


> The good news is the fusion of ntune and forceware seems to have finally
> succeeded, even though the GUI and logic of the new control panel seems
> to have been designed by Shiva with consult to the Lady of Pain. You can
> adjust any and all supported mobo electrical specifications from Windows
> without a reboot with built in benchmarking and detailed profiling and
> hardware management, it's all there and it works well.

So, how does this fix my PowerDVD and fullscreen TV overlay issues?


> Also, the DX9 code paths are pretty solid, most games run at absurdly
> high FPS, with unthinkable amounts of filtering, with low wattage
> requirements digital or along outputs available stably, 24/7, with
> widespread availability and any price point to suit your budget.
>
> Remarkable when you think about what they have accomplished.

Good. I am not going Vista any time soon for its DX10.
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On 3/16/2008 2:37 PM PT, First of One typed:

> Before you get all worked up about this, what are the CPU utilization
> numbers with hardware acceleration enabled versus disabled?
>
> For reference, playing The Bourne Ultimatum DVD, on my Athlon64 X2 4400+
> (2.2 GHz) the CPU utilization hovers between 4% and 8% with Media Player
> Classic's built-in software decoder.

I remember seeing about 10% of CPU without hardware accerelation. I can
see noticeable lag when going fullscreen to windowed and back. Same for
dragging it. I can see smoothness with hardware accerelation (no lags).
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Then the bloated PowerDVD software is causing the lag. Try Media Player
Classic, and make sure to use its own internal MPEG2 decoder. Download it
here (open-source):
http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...ease_id=403110

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It can therefore be said that politics is war without
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"Ant" <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote in message
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> On 3/16/2008 2:37 PM PT, First of One typed:
>
>> Before you get all worked up about this, what are the CPU utilization
>> numbers with hardware acceleration enabled versus disabled?
>>
>> For reference, playing The Bourne Ultimatum DVD, on my Athlon64 X2 4400+
>> (2.2 GHz) the CPU utilization hovers between 4% and 8% with Media Player
>> Classic's built-in software decoder.
>
> I remember seeing about 10% of CPU without hardware accerelation. I can
> see noticeable lag when going fullscreen to windowed and back. Same for
> dragging it. I can see smoothness with hardware accerelation (no lags).

On 3/16/2008 8:48 PM PT, First of One typed:

> Then the bloated PowerDVD software is causing the lag. Try Media Player
> Classic, and make sure to use its own internal MPEG2 decoder. Download it
> here (open-source):
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...ease_id=403110

I actually have it,. but for some reason I don't get the correct sound
setup and DVD menus like in PowerDVD and WinDVD. Maybe I missed
something?
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The menus should appear correctly if you play DVDs by going to File -> Open
Disc -> [dvd name]

MPC should be set up to use the app's internal AC3 / DTS filters. Go to
View -> Options -> Internal Filters -> check all the AC3 and DTS boxes.

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"Ant" <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote in message
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> On 3/16/2008 8:48 PM PT, First of One typed:
>
>> Then the bloated PowerDVD software is causing the lag. Try Media Player
>> Classic, and make sure to use its own internal MPEG2 decoder. Download it
>> here (open-source):
>> http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...ease_id=403110
>
> I actually have it,. but for some reason I don't get the correct sound
> setup and DVD menus like in PowerDVD and WinDVD. Maybe I missed
> something?
> --
> "Where the sugar is, there will the ant be also." --Philippines
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