However, not sure what graphics card I can up to without having problems
with power etc. I have a Enermax 650w PSU with the following specs on the
12v rails
12v1 @ 28amps for graphics
12v2 @ 28amps for graphics
12v3 @ 30amps for CPU/hdds/internal cards/case fans/etc. (Well according to
the manual anyways.
Total: 624watts
Was thinking eventually on either getting a 8800 or a 9600/9800. Not sure
about the new cards coming out this year. Don't think I be Sli'ing though
as the motherboard only supports PCI-Ex8 in that mode so one card setup
really. Anyone know what card would be the best without having power issues
and also the cpu not being a bottleneck etc?
"Skipai Otter" <skipaiotter@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:6b2b3bF39fi1vU1@mid.individual.net...
> Currently got a 256mb 8600GT.
>
> My system specs are:
>
> AMD64x2 6000+
> 2gb DDR-II ram
> X-Fi Platnium
> 2 optical drives
> 1 Sata drive
> NForce 570 Sli motherboard (Gigabyte 570sli-s4 I think)
>
> However, not sure what graphics card I can up to without having problems
> with power etc. I have a Enermax 650w PSU with the following specs on the
> 12v rails
>
> 12v1 @ 28amps for graphics
> 12v2 @ 28amps for graphics
> 12v3 @ 30amps for CPU/hdds/internal cards/case fans/etc. (Well according
> to
> the manual anyways.
>
> Total: 624watts
>
> Was thinking eventually on either getting a 8800 or a 9600/9800. Not sure
> about the new cards coming out this year. Don't think I be Sli'ing though
> as the motherboard only supports PCI-Ex8 in that mode so one card setup
> really. Anyone know what card would be the best without having power
> issues
> and also the cpu not being a bottleneck etc?
I recently did a new budget build for my son....Antec Truepower 650W, Asus
M2A-VM 690G mainboard, AM2 5000+ Black Edition (running at 3.2Ghz), 4Gig OCZ
PC6400 and two 500Gig SATA drives in RAID with a third 750Gig SATA for twice
weekly imaging of the system. Video duties are done by an Asus 9600GT 512Mb
unit which I got on sale for $148. It's clocked well above any of the
highest factory 9600GT OC units. It runs every game (Crysis included) at max
settings on his1440x900 LCD without a single issue or slowdown. An 8800GT is
faster , but they're still at least $30-40 more. Your system is nowhere near
the need for another power supply given what you have in your provided
specs. If you have a larger LCD than 1440x900 or 1280x1024 then I would
suggest spending the extra coin on an 8800GT or GTS. The 9600GT will show
it's shortcomings driving games at resolutions above this.
FWIW I run 4 SATA drives ( 2 of which are 74Gig Raptors in RAID0), 2
Optical drives, an 8800GT OC unit, 4 120MM fans, a Gigabyte DSR3 board with
an E8400 and two sound cards (X-Fi and Mobile Pre-USB) as well as 5 USB
powered devices all off an Antec TruePower II 480W unit I bought 30 months
back. Never a hiccup. Prior to the E8400 and Gigabyte upgrade it had a power
hungry Opteron 185 unit overvolted and o/c'd at 2.9Ghz and and A8N-E board.
The quality and specs of the of your p/s matter a great deal more than the
wattage rating as was pointed out in an earlier post (Paul, I think?)
"Augustus" <no_one@no_where.net> wrote in message
news:%tT2k.380$L03.360@edtnps92...
>
> "Skipai Otter" <skipaiotter@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:6b2b3bF39fi1vU1@mid.individual.net...
> > Currently got a 256mb 8600GT.
> >
> > My system specs are:
> >
> > AMD64x2 6000+
> > 2gb DDR-II ram
> > X-Fi Platnium
> > 2 optical drives
> > 1 Sata drive
> > NForce 570 Sli motherboard (Gigabyte 570sli-s4 I think)
> >
> > However, not sure what graphics card I can up to without having problems
> > with power etc. I have a Enermax 650w PSU with the following specs on
the
> > 12v rails
> >
> > 12v1 @ 28amps for graphics
> > 12v2 @ 28amps for graphics
> > 12v3 @ 30amps for CPU/hdds/internal cards/case fans/etc. (Well
according
> > to
> > the manual anyways.
> >
> > Total: 624watts
> >
> > Was thinking eventually on either getting a 8800 or a 9600/9800. Not
sure
> > about the new cards coming out this year. Don't think I be Sli'ing
though
> > as the motherboard only supports PCI-Ex8 in that mode so one card setup
> > really. Anyone know what card would be the best without having power
> > issues
> > and also the cpu not being a bottleneck etc?
>
> I recently did a new budget build for my son....Antec Truepower 650W, Asus
> M2A-VM 690G mainboard, AM2 5000+ Black Edition (running at 3.2Ghz), 4Gig
OCZ
> PC6400 and two 500Gig SATA drives in RAID with a third 750Gig SATA for
twice
> weekly imaging of the system. Video duties are done by an Asus 9600GT
512Mb
> unit which I got on sale for $148. It's clocked well above any of the
> highest factory 9600GT OC units. It runs every game (Crysis included) at
max
> settings on his1440x900 LCD without a single issue or slowdown. An 8800GT
is
> faster , but they're still at least $30-40 more. Your system is nowhere
near
> the need for another power supply given what you have in your provided
> specs. If you have a larger LCD than 1440x900 or 1280x1024 then I would
> suggest spending the extra coin on an 8800GT or GTS. The 9600GT will show
> it's shortcomings driving games at resolutions above this.
> FWIW I run 4 SATA drives ( 2 of which are 74Gig Raptors in RAID0), 2
> Optical drives, an 8800GT OC unit, 4 120MM fans, a Gigabyte DSR3 board
with
> an E8400 and two sound cards (X-Fi and Mobile Pre-USB) as well as 5 USB
> powered devices all off an Antec TruePower II 480W unit I bought 30 months
> back. Never a hiccup. Prior to the E8400 and Gigabyte upgrade it had a
power
> hungry Opteron 185 unit overvolted and o/c'd at 2.9Ghz and and A8N-E
board.
> The quality and specs of the of your p/s matter a great deal more than the
> wattage rating as was pointed out in an earlier post (Paul, I think?)
>
Yeah, I was looking at a 22 inch or 24 inch LCD monitor in the future. So
probably look into the 8800 then. I can play Crysis already but only on
medium settings, got XP so not sure if I can get to high settings anyways.
(Available in their stores, and online.) It's a PNY branded card. That
company doesn't have the most favorable reputation for warranty service.
That probably won't matter. That's quite a good price for this class of
card.
It needs a single 6 pin PCI-E power connector, so I assume that you'll be
fine.
Return address scrambled. Replace nkbob with bobkn.
"Skipai Otter" <skipaiotter@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Augustus" <no_one@no_where.net> wrote in message
> news:%tT2k.380$L03.360@edtnps92...
>>
>> "Skipai Otter" <skipaiotter@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:6b2b3bF39fi1vU1@mid.individual.net...
>> > Currently got a 256mb 8600GT.
>> >
>> > My system specs are:
>> >
>> > AMD64x2 6000+
>> > 2gb DDR-II ram
>> > X-Fi Platnium
>> > 2 optical drives
>> > 1 Sata drive
>> > NForce 570 Sli motherboard (Gigabyte 570sli-s4 I think)
>> >
>> > However, not sure what graphics card I can up to without having
>> > problems
>> > with power etc. I have a Enermax 650w PSU with the following specs on
> the
>> > 12v rails
>> >
>> > 12v1 @ 28amps for graphics
>> > 12v2 @ 28amps for graphics
>> > 12v3 @ 30amps for CPU/hdds/internal cards/case fans/etc. (Well
> according
>> > to
>> > the manual anyways.
>> >
>> > Total: 624watts
>> >
>> > Was thinking eventually on either getting a 8800 or a 9600/9800. Not
> sure
>> > about the new cards coming out this year. Don't think I be Sli'ing
> though
>> > as the motherboard only supports PCI-Ex8 in that mode so one card setup
>> > really. Anyone know what card would be the best without having power
>> > issues
>> > and also the cpu not being a bottleneck etc?
>>
>> I recently did a new budget build for my son....Antec Truepower 650W,
>> Asus
>> M2A-VM 690G mainboard, AM2 5000+ Black Edition (running at 3.2Ghz), 4Gig
> OCZ
>> PC6400 and two 500Gig SATA drives in RAID with a third 750Gig SATA for
> twice
>> weekly imaging of the system. Video duties are done by an Asus 9600GT
> 512Mb
>> unit which I got on sale for $148. It's clocked well above any of the
>> highest factory 9600GT OC units. It runs every game (Crysis included) at
> max
>> settings on his1440x900 LCD without a single issue or slowdown. An 8800GT
> is
>> faster , but they're still at least $30-40 more. Your system is nowhere
> near
>> the need for another power supply given what you have in your provided
>> specs. If you have a larger LCD than 1440x900 or 1280x1024 then I would
>> suggest spending the extra coin on an 8800GT or GTS. The 9600GT will show
>> it's shortcomings driving games at resolutions above this.
>> FWIW I run 4 SATA drives ( 2 of which are 74Gig Raptors in RAID0), 2
>> Optical drives, an 8800GT OC unit, 4 120MM fans, a Gigabyte DSR3 board
> with
>> an E8400 and two sound cards (X-Fi and Mobile Pre-USB) as well as 5 USB
>> powered devices all off an Antec TruePower II 480W unit I bought 30
>> months
>> back. Never a hiccup. Prior to the E8400 and Gigabyte upgrade it had a
> power
>> hungry Opteron 185 unit overvolted and o/c'd at 2.9Ghz and and A8N-E
> board.
>> The quality and specs of the of your p/s matter a great deal more than
>> the
>> wattage rating as was pointed out in an earlier post (Paul, I think?)
>>
> Yeah, I was looking at a 22 inch or 24 inch LCD monitor in the future. So
> probably look into the 8800 then. I can play Crysis already but only on
> medium settings, got XP so not sure if I can get to high settings anyways.
>
> --
> Skipai
>
>
"Bob Knowlden" <nkbob@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> I'm not a fan of Best Buy, but at the moment they have a sale on an
> 8800GT, for $150, with a full 512 MB of video RAM.
>
> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....3&type=product
>
> (Available in their stores, and online.) It's a PNY branded card. That
> company doesn't have the most favorable reputation for warranty service.
> That probably won't matter. That's quite a good price for this class of
> card.
>
> It needs a single 6 pin PCI-E power connector, so I assume that you'll be
> fine.
That's an amazing deal.........cannot beat that. I would snap it up.
Skipai Otter wrote:
> Currently got a 256mb 8600GT.
>
> My system specs are:
>
> AMD64x2 6000+
> 2gb DDR-II ram
> X-Fi Platnium
> 2 optical drives
> 1 Sata drive
> NForce 570 Sli motherboard (Gigabyte 570sli-s4 I think)
>
> However, not sure what graphics card I can up to without having problems
> with power etc. I have a Enermax 650w PSU with the following specs on the
> 12v rails
>
> 12v1 @ 28amps for graphics
> 12v2 @ 28amps for graphics
> 12v3 @ 30amps for CPU/hdds/internal cards/case fans/etc. (Well according to
> the manual anyways.
>
> Total: 624watts
>
> Was thinking eventually on either getting a 8800 or a 9600/9800. Not sure
> about the new cards coming out this year. Don't think I be Sli'ing though
> as the motherboard only supports PCI-Ex8 in that mode so one card setup
> really. Anyone know what card would be the best without having power issues
> and also the cpu not being a bottleneck etc?
>
> --
> Skipai
>
>
You make it easy to suggest the 512M 8800GTS (about $200 US).
Your PSU, RAM and CPU are fine even for SLI, but stick with a single
card solution. Stick with Windows XP as well.
If you wish a 9800GTX, expect to pay $70 more but receive precious
little in performance improvements at moderate to high resolutions
(1600x1200 and below) over the 8800GTS.
On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:12:17 GMT, "Augustus" <no_one@no_where.net>
wrote:
>
>"Bob Knowlden" <nkbob@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news_-dnZthA5tqjNHVnZ2dnUVZ_siknZ2d@comcast.com...
>> I'm not a fan of Best Buy, but at the moment they have a sale on an
>> 8800GT, for $150, with a full 512 MB of video RAM.
>>
>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....3&type=product
>>
>> (Available in their stores, and online.) It's a PNY branded card. That
>> company doesn't have the most favorable reputation for warranty service.
>> That probably won't matter. That's quite a good price for this class of
>> card.
>>
>> It needs a single 6 pin PCI-E power connector, so I assume that you'll be
>> fine.
>
>That's an amazing deal.........cannot beat that. I would snap it up.
>
"shawn" <nanoflower@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jqdp445ft1hjqnd4s3pk443abhj9nqm2gg@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:12:17 GMT, "Augustus" <no_one@no_where.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bob Knowlden" <nkbob@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news_-dnZthA5tqjNHVnZ2dnUVZ_siknZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> I'm not a fan of Best Buy, but at the moment they have a sale on an
>>> 8800GT, for $150, with a full 512 MB of video RAM.
>>>
>>> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....3&type=product
>>>
>>> (Available in their stores, and online.) It's a PNY branded card. That
>>> company doesn't have the most favorable reputation for warranty service.
>>> That probably won't matter. That's quite a good price for this class of
>>> card.
>>>
>>> It needs a single 6 pin PCI-E power connector, so I assume that you'll
>>> be
>>> fine.
>>
>>That's an amazing deal.........cannot beat that. I would snap it up.
>>
>
> Or you could get the 512MB DDR3 XFX 8800GT for $169 from Newegg ($139
> after rebate) if you want a card from a better manufacturer.
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150280
There's no quality difference between the two....the're both a standard
reference design and parts board. One's a shrouded narrow slot housing and
the other is an open slower quieter fan type. On Newegg they're both the
same price.
Skipai Otter wrote:
> Currently got a 256mb 8600GT.
>
> My system specs are:
>
> AMD64x2 6000+
> 2gb DDR-II ram
> X-Fi Platnium
> 2 optical drives
> 1 Sata drive
> NForce 570 Sli motherboard (Gigabyte 570sli-s4 I think)
>
> However, not sure what graphics card I can up to without having problems
> with power etc. I have a Enermax 650w PSU with the following specs on the
> 12v rails
>
> 12v1 @ 28amps for graphics
> 12v2 @ 28amps for graphics
> 12v3 @ 30amps for CPU/hdds/internal cards/case fans/etc. (Well according to
> the manual anyways.
>
> Total: 624watts
>
> Was thinking eventually on either getting a 8800 or a 9600/9800. Not sure
> about the new cards coming out this year. Don't think I be Sli'ing though
> as the motherboard only supports PCI-Ex8 in that mode so one card setup
> really. Anyone know what card would be the best without having power issues
> and also the cpu not being a bottleneck etc?
>
> --
> Skipai
>
>
Your amps are more than sufficient for ANY graphics card, even a
respectable SLI setup. The recommended ratings take into account system
overhead and usually the worst case scenario of a ****ty PSU. You're fine.
Now buy what you like and what you can afford, anything in the range of
an 8800GTX or 9800 is just peachy. You really can't go wrong.
"deimos" <deimos@localhost> wrote in message
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> Skipai Otter wrote:
> > Currently got a 256mb 8600GT.
> >
> > My system specs are:
> >
> > AMD64x2 6000+
> > 2gb DDR-II ram
> > X-Fi Platnium
> > 2 optical drives
> > 1 Sata drive
> > NForce 570 Sli motherboard (Gigabyte 570sli-s4 I think)
> >
> > However, not sure what graphics card I can up to without having problems
> > with power etc. I have a Enermax 650w PSU with the following specs on
the
> > 12v rails
> >
> > 12v1 @ 28amps for graphics
> > 12v2 @ 28amps for graphics
> > 12v3 @ 30amps for CPU/hdds/internal cards/case fans/etc. (Well
according to
> > the manual anyways.
> >
> > Total: 624watts
> >
> > Was thinking eventually on either getting a 8800 or a 9600/9800. Not
sure
> > about the new cards coming out this year. Don't think I be Sli'ing
though
> > as the motherboard only supports PCI-Ex8 in that mode so one card setup
> > really. Anyone know what card would be the best without having power
issues
> > and also the cpu not being a bottleneck etc?
> >
> > --
> > Skipai
> >
> >
>
> Your amps are more than sufficient for ANY graphics card, even a
> respectable SLI setup. The recommended ratings take into account system
> overhead and usually the worst case scenario of a ****ty PSU. You're
fine.
>
> Now buy what you like and what you can afford, anything in the range of
> an 8800GTX or 9800 is just peachy. You really can't go wrong.
Thanks, I was just checking. Glad to have open access on anything I want to
at the moment
Which graphics card to upgrade. 
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