7800GT vs 9800GTX

Aproximately how much faster would I expect an upgrade to the 9800GTX be,
compared to my current 7800GT?
I currently run games at 1680x1050.

edde wrote:
> Aproximately how much faster would I expect an upgrade to the 9800GTX
> be, compared to my current 7800GT?
> I currently run games at 1680x1050.
>
>

Whatever FPS you are managing currently with the 7800 at that res, you
will maintain even with the addition of 4xFSAA and 16xAniso assuming you
have a reasonable CPU. Any dual core or a well cached speedy single core.

If you get fast FPS already in a game, whatever it is, whatever
filtering applied, you'll get more fast but maybe not more benefit of
the fast..but...

You can run FSAA and HDR simultaneously with the 9800GTX which you can't
do with the 7 (Oblivion), also the shaders in the 9800 are lightspeed
fast so the heavier the shader usage the greater the performance
difference (Crysis).

Subtract 10% from all results and happiness quotient if you run Vista
instead of XP. DX10 is not worth it, nor is DX10.1 it seems.

"Mr.E Solved!" <Iamsingle@askme.out> wrote in message
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> edde wrote:
>> Aproximately how much faster would I expect an upgrade to the 9800GTX be,
>> compared to my current 7800GT?
>> I currently run games at 1680x1050.
>>
>>
>
> Whatever FPS you are managing currently with the 7800 at that res, you
> will maintain even with the addition of 4xFSAA and 16xAniso assuming you
> have a reasonable CPU. Any dual core or a well cached speedy single core.
>
> If you get fast FPS already in a game, whatever it is, whatever filtering
> applied, you'll get more fast but maybe not more benefit of the
> fast..but...
>
> You can run FSAA and HDR simultaneously with the 9800GTX which you can't
> do with the 7 (Oblivion), also the shaders in the 9800 are lightspeed fast
> so the heavier the shader usage the greater the performance difference
> (Crysis).
>
> Subtract 10% from all results and happiness quotient if you run Vista
> instead of XP. DX10 is not worth it, nor is DX10.1 it seems.

Thank you very much, MR E Solved!!

I currently have an A64-4600+ Dual Core with 2GB memory and 7800GT.
I'm THINKING of getting a Intel Core 2 Quad Core (I do lots of graphic
rendering) and 9800GT and 4GB memory.

The ATI 4870 looks tempting for the price,but I've never owned ATI and hear
mixed things about their drivers for apps. Also it's apparenlty wicked hot.

> I currently have an A64-4600+ Dual Core with 2GB memory and 7800GT.
> I'm THINKING of getting a Intel Core 2 Quad Core (I do lots of graphic
> rendering) and 9800GT and 4GB memory.
>
> The ATI 4870 looks tempting for the price,but I've never owned ATI and
> hear mixed things about their drivers for apps. Also it's apparenlty
> wicked hot.

What Mr. E. Solved said is pretty accurate (maybe a bit conservative...I
went from a 7800GTX to an 8800GT and experienced exactly what he said. A
7800GT to 9800GTX is more of a jump. You will immediately find that your A64
X2 2.4Ghz CPU and DDR setup is immediately going to become a big bottlneck.
I was running an dual core Opteron 185 running at 2.9Ghz 2Mb cache system
when I upgraded the video. It immediately became apparent that the hottest
and fastest S939 and DDR combo were totally inadequate when coupled with the
new video card. I went with an E8400 setup which runs at 3.8Ghz without a
single BIOS tweak other than the FSB. A quad core is an excellent choice for
your needs. The 9450 would be my choice right now. 12Mb L2 cache and immense
OC potential.

"Augustus" <no_one@no_where.net> wrote in message
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>> I currently have an A64-4600+ Dual Core with 2GB memory and 7800GT.
>> I'm THINKING of getting a Intel Core 2 Quad Core (I do lots of graphic
>> rendering) and 9800GT and 4GB memory.
>>
>> The ATI 4870 looks tempting for the price,but I've never owned ATI and
>> hear mixed things about their drivers for apps. Also it's apparenlty
>> wicked hot.
>
> What Mr. E. Solved said is pretty accurate (maybe a bit conservative...I
> went from a 7800GTX to an 8800GT and experienced exactly what he said. A
> 7800GT to 9800GTX is more of a jump. You will immediately find that your
> A64 X2 2.4Ghz CPU and DDR setup is immediately going to become a big
> bottlneck. I was running an dual core Opteron 185 running at 2.9Ghz 2Mb
> cache system when I upgraded the video. It immediately became apparent
> that the hottest and fastest S939 and DDR combo were totally inadequate
> when coupled with the new video card. I went with an E8400 setup which
> runs at 3.8Ghz without a single BIOS tweak other than the FSB. A quad core
> is an excellent choice for your needs. The 9450 would be my choice right
> now. 12Mb L2 cache and immense OC potential.

Thanks guys! I was eyeballing the 9450 for sure. Any recommendations for
motherboards/chipsets?
I don't do SLI and don't need a lot of extras, but I always like to buy
fast/stable mobos from top companies like ASUS.
(My current is an Asus A8n-SLI Deluxe and even after 3 yrs it's kicking
butt).

>
> Thanks guys! I was eyeballing the 9450 for sure. Any recommendations for
> motherboards/chipsets?
> I don't do SLI and don't need a lot of extras, but I always like to buy
> fast/stable mobos from top companies like ASUS.
> (My current is an Asus A8n-SLI Deluxe and even after 3 yrs it's kicking
> butt).
>

I went with the Gigabyte GA- P35-DSR3 for my E8400, an excellent o/c and
stable board and doesn't kill the wallet.....the current BIOS (F13A)
supports the Yorkfield 9XXX 45nm Quad cores.

edde wrote:
> Thanks guys! I was eyeballing the 9450 for sure.

Q9450 with the 8 multiplier is going away. The Q9550 (8.5 multiplier) price is dropping
to fill its place. http://resources.vr-zone.com//newspi...U_Pricecut.gif
Q3 is rumored to be July 22.

Are you an overclocker?

"Augustus" <no_one@no_where.net> wrote in message
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> >
>> Thanks guys! I was eyeballing the 9450 for sure. Any recommendations for
>> motherboards/chipsets?
>> I don't do SLI and don't need a lot of extras, but I always like to buy
>> fast/stable mobos from top companies like ASUS.
>> (My current is an Asus A8n-SLI Deluxe and even after 3 yrs it's kicking
>> butt).
>>
>
> I went with the Gigabyte GA- P35-DSR3 for my E8400, an excellent o/c and
> stable board and doesn't kill the wallet.....the current BIOS (F13A)
> supports the Yorkfield 9XXX 45nm Quad cores.

Thanks I will have a look at that board!

"Fishface" <invalid@ddress.ok?> wrote in message
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> edde wrote:
>> Thanks guys! I was eyeballing the 9450 for sure.
>
> Q9450 with the 8 multiplier is going away. The Q9550 (8.5 multiplier)
> price is dropping
> to fill its place.
> http://resources.vr-zone.com//newspi...U_Pricecut.gif
> Q3 is rumored to be July 22.
>
> Are you an overclocker?
>
Hi, No, I'm not an overclocker. For me the most important features are
stability, out of the box speed, and future proofishness (I just made that
word up )
For example, i bought the A8N-SLI Deluxe over three years ago, and it was
top of the line, and it still has most of the features of todays' state of
the art motherboards. I've never had a board last me anywhere near this
long!

Thanks for that tip!