USB BOOT on Gericom???

It's about M6-T model. CD-Rom drive isn't working, and i need to find a way
to install win XP from usb stick. the part with making winxp bootable usb
stick is done, but i cannot find a bios option for booting from usb drive. I
have put the hdd as a first boot device, in submenu put bootable add-on
cards in front of the hdd., and it still boots from the hdd... Any help??

In news:g6ne1v$kds$1@ss408.t-com.hr,
Alan Shore typed on Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:46:52 +0200:
> It's about M6-T model. CD-Rom drive isn't working, and i need to find
> a way to install win XP from usb stick. the part with making winxp
> bootable usb stick is done, but i cannot find a bios option for
> booting from usb drive. I have put the hdd as a first boot device, in
> submenu put bootable add-on cards in front of the hdd., and it still
> boots from the hdd... Any help??

Many makes and models you can choose manually at POST by tapping the ESC
key. Both my Gateway and Asus EEE PCs are that way. The Gateway though, I
can choose an USB device, but I can't choose which one. Meaning if there is
more than one connected, you don't know which one will try. In my case, it
is always the wrong one. The Asus allows me to pick which one.

Another problem you may run into is that Windows XP (and others I believe)
reinitializes the USB ports as it boots. Which is a real problem when you
are trying to boot Windows from the USB port. There are work arounds though.

There are many ways to make a bootable stick. I use Windows 98SE FDISK,
Windows XP install CD (using the repair option - FIXMBR and MAKEBOOT), or
the HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool. Which method(s) do you use?

--
Bill
Gateway Celeron M 370 (1.5GHZ)
MX6124 (laptop) w/2GB
Windows XP Home SP2 (120GB HD)
Intel(r) 910GML (64MB shared)

"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message
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> In news:g6ne1v$kds$1@ss408.t-com.hr,
> Alan Shore typed on Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:46:52 +0200:
>> It's about M6-T model. CD-Rom drive isn't working, and i need to find
>> a way to install win XP from usb stick. the part with making winxp
>> bootable usb stick is done, but i cannot find a bios option for
>> booting from usb drive. I have put the hdd as a first boot device, in
>> submenu put bootable add-on cards in front of the hdd., and it still
>> boots from the hdd... Any help??
>
> Many makes and models you can choose manually at POST by tapping the ESC
> key. Both my Gateway and Asus EEE PCs are that way. The Gateway though, I
> can choose an USB device, but I can't choose which one. Meaning if there
> is more than one connected, you don't know which one will try. In my case,
> it is always the wrong one. The Asus allows me to pick which one.
>
> Another problem you may run into is that Windows XP (and others I believe)
> reinitializes the USB ports as it boots. Which is a real problem when you
> are trying to boot Windows from the USB port. There are work arounds
> though.
>
> There are many ways to make a bootable stick. I use Windows 98SE FDISK,
> Windows XP install CD (using the repair option - FIXMBR and MAKEBOOT), or
> the HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool. Which method(s) do you use?
>

I made it with PeToUSB. It works on my desktop pc, but not on notebook. I
thought of maybe flashing bios with latest version of it, cause this one has
no options at all -.-, but all the pages are in German, so i cannot find
adequate link with maybe some little tutorial..

"Alan Shore" <alan.shore.vk@gmail.com> wrote in message news:g6o15q$qsf$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
>
> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message
> news:488f6348$0$10967$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere .com...
> > In news:g6ne1v$kds$1@ss408.t-com.hr,
> > Alan Shore typed on Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:46:52 +0200:
> >> It's about M6-T model. CD-Rom drive isn't working, and i need to find
> >> a way to install win XP from usb stick. the part with making winxp
> >> bootable usb stick is done, but i cannot find a bios option for
> >> booting from usb drive. I have put the hdd as a first boot device, in
> >> submenu put bootable add-on cards in front of the hdd., and it still
> >> boots from the hdd... Any help??
> >
> > Many makes and models you can choose manually at POST by tapping the ESC
> > key. Both my Gateway and Asus EEE PCs are that way. The Gateway though, I
> > can choose an USB device, but I can't choose which one. Meaning if there
> > is more than one connected, you don't know which one will try. In my case,
> > it is always the wrong one. The Asus allows me to pick which one.
> >
> > Another problem you may run into is that Windows XP (and others I believe)
> > reinitializes the USB ports as it boots. Which is a real problem when you
> > are trying to boot Windows from the USB port. There are work arounds
> > though.
> >
> > There are many ways to make a bootable stick. I use Windows 98SE FDISK,
> > Windows XP install CD (using the repair option - FIXMBR and MAKEBOOT), or
> > the HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool. Which method(s) do you use?
> >
>
> I made it with PeToUSB. It works on my desktop pc, but not on notebook. I
> thought of maybe flashing bios with latest version of it, cause this one has
> no options at all -.-, but all the pages are in German, so i cannot find
> adequate link with maybe some little tutorial..

Is "floppy drive" listed as a boot device? Sometimes that really means
"USB device", not just a floppy drive.

If that doesn't work you're probably SOL without a system bios update.

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Alan Shore typed on Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:13:10 +0200:
> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message
> news:488f6348$0$10967$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere .com...
>> In news:g6ne1v$kds$1@ss408.t-com.hr,
>> Alan Shore typed on Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:46:52 +0200:
>>> It's about M6-T model. CD-Rom drive isn't working, and i need to
>>> find a way to install win XP from usb stick. the part with making
>>> winxp bootable usb stick is done, but i cannot find a bios option
>>> for booting from usb drive. I have put the hdd as a first boot
>>> device, in submenu put bootable add-on cards in front of the hdd.,
>>> and it still boots from the hdd... Any help??
>>
>> Many makes and models you can choose manually at POST by tapping the
>> ESC key. Both my Gateway and Asus EEE PCs are that way. The Gateway
>> though, I can choose an USB device, but I can't choose which one.
>> Meaning if there is more than one connected, you don't know which
>> one will try. In my case, it is always the wrong one. The Asus
>> allows me to pick which one. Another problem you may run into is that
>> Windows XP (and others I
>> believe) reinitializes the USB ports as it boots. Which is a real
>> problem when you are trying to boot Windows from the USB port. There
>> are work arounds though.
>>
>> There are many ways to make a bootable stick. I use Windows 98SE
>> FDISK, Windows XP install CD (using the repair option - FIXMBR and
>> MAKEBOOT), or the HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool. Which method(s)
>> do you use?
>
> I made it with PeToUSB. It works on my desktop pc, but not on
> notebook. I thought of maybe flashing bios with latest version of it,
> cause this one has no options at all -.-, but all the pages are in
> German, so i cannot find adequate link with maybe some little
> tutorial..

First thank you for PeToUSB. I was trying to make BartPE bootable from an
USB stick. This works wonderfully. Although this only works for 2GB or less.
Second of all, it only claims to work with BartPE and WinPE. I also make one
with the Windows XP install CD and it worked fine until I tried to boot from
it. Partition error or something popped up. Yours works on one computer for
you?

Since your BIOS doesn't appear to allow USB to be bootable. Other options
like an USB CD drive or an USB hard drive also seems to be out of the
question.

Although on the current hard drive, it can be partitioned for the Windows XP
install CD. There are free partition managers out there and commercial ones
that has a trial versions available. You can use one of them. And then boot
Windows normally and you can run the Setup in the other partition. I believe
that should work fine.

--
Bill
Gateway Celeron M 370 (1.5GHZ)
MX6124 (laptop) w/2GB
Windows XP Home SP2 (120GB HD)
Intel(r) 910GML (64MB shared)

In news:488fd067$0$10968$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere .com,
BillW50 typed on Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:22:28 -0500:
> Although on the current hard drive, it can be partitioned for the
> Windows XP install CD. There are free partition managers out there
> and commercial ones that has a trial versions available. You can use
> one of them. And then boot Windows normally and you can run the Setup
> in the other partition. I believe that should work fine.

Hi Alan! If you want, I have a spare hard drive here and I can experiment
using one hard drive only and trying to get Windows installed from one drive
alone if you would like. And then I can tell you exactly how to do this.

--
Bill
Gateway Celeron M 370 (1.5GHZ)
MX6124 (laptop) w/2GB
Windows XP Home SP2 (120GB HD)
Intel(r) 910GML (64MB shared)

"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message
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> In news:488fd067$0$10968$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere .com,
> BillW50 typed on Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:22:28 -0500:
>> Although on the current hard drive, it can be partitioned for the
>> Windows XP install CD. There are free partition managers out there
>> and commercial ones that has a trial versions available. You can use
>> one of them. And then boot Windows normally and you can run the Setup
>> in the other partition. I believe that should work fine.
>
> Hi Alan! If you want, I have a spare hard drive here and I can experiment
> using one hard drive only and trying to get Windows installed from one
> drive alone if you would like. And then I can tell you exactly how to do
> this.
>
I'd appreciate it. Nice way to get your knowlege better -.-
I'm not finding any of the good instructions on the internet, and i need it
fixed ASAP. TY in advance!

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Alan Shore typed on Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:34:35 +0200:
> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message
> news:489069c9$0$10971$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere .com...
>> In news:488fd067$0$10968$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere .com,
>> BillW50 typed on Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:22:28 -0500:
>>> Although on the current hard drive, it can be partitioned for the
>>> Windows XP install CD. There are free partition managers out there
>>> and commercial ones that has a trial versions available. You can use
>>> one of them. And then boot Windows normally and you can run the
>>> Setup in the other partition. I believe that should work fine.
>>
>> Hi Alan! If you want, I have a spare hard drive here and I can
>> experiment using one hard drive only and trying to get Windows
>> installed from one drive alone if you would like. And then I can
>> tell you exactly how to do this.
>>
> I'd appreciate it. Nice way to get your knowlege better -.-
> I'm not finding any of the good instructions on the internet, and i
> need it fixed ASAP. TY in advance!

Okay Alan. My idea is to create a small partition on the hard drive which
contains the Windows XP install CD and make this partition bootable. First
do you have any partition manager software? Second, is it easy for you to
remove that hard drive and add it to another (i.e. external hard drive
enclosure)?

On another subject, did you ever get the Windows XP install CD to boot from
a USB stick on the other computer? I didn't get that to work the first try.
But BartPE works just fine.

--
Bill
Gateway Celeron M 370 (1.5GHZ)
MX6124 (laptop) w/2GB
Windows XP Home SP2 (120GB HD)
Intel(r) 910GML (64MB shared)

"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message
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> In news:g6pqm0$98f$1@ss408.t-com.hr,
> Alan Shore typed on Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:34:35 +0200:
>> "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message
>> news:489069c9$0$10971$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere .com...
>>> In news:488fd067$0$10968$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere .com,
>>> BillW50 typed on Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:22:28 -0500:
>>>> Although on the current hard drive, it can be partitioned for the
>>>> Windows XP install CD. There are free partition managers out there
>>>> and commercial ones that has a trial versions available. You can use
>>>> one of them. And then boot Windows normally and you can run the
>>>> Setup in the other partition. I believe that should work fine.
>>>
>>> Hi Alan! If you want, I have a spare hard drive here and I can
>>> experiment using one hard drive only and trying to get Windows
>>> installed from one drive alone if you would like. And then I can
>>> tell you exactly how to do this.
>>>
>> I'd appreciate it. Nice way to get your knowlege better -.-
>> I'm not finding any of the good instructions on the internet, and i
>> need it fixed ASAP. TY in advance!
>
> Okay Alan. My idea is to create a small partition on the hard drive which
> contains the Windows XP install CD and make this partition bootable. First
> do you have any partition manager software? Second, is it easy for you to
> remove that hard drive and add it to another (i.e. external hard drive
> enclosure)?
>
> On another subject, did you ever get the Windows XP install CD to boot
> from a USB stick on the other computer? I didn't get that to work the
> first try. But BartPE works just fine.
>
>

As i said, i made one with petousb, but it doesnt seem to work well, i get
the normal msg like when starting boot of winxp from regular cd, and before
the blue screen with driver loading and installation process appears i get
some error message about bios driver. Nevermind that, cause i don't get it
on the laptop, just on my desktop pc.
I'd like to go to your (yet partial) solution - installing winxp from hdd
partition reserved for it.

In news:g6ptv9$fq2$1@ss408.t-com.hr,
Alan Shore typed on Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:30:44 +0200:
>
> As i said, i made one with petousb, but it doesnt seem to work well,
> i get the normal msg like when starting boot of winxp from regular
> cd, and before the blue screen with driver loading and installation
> process appears i get some error message about bios driver. Nevermind
> that, cause i don't get it on the laptop, just on my desktop pc.
> I'd like to go to your (yet partial) solution - installing winxp from
> hdd partition reserved for it.

Okay you will need a partition manager first. I am searching for one for
free or a commercial one that works as trial. You or somebody can help here
too. And how large is your drive? I found one that only works with 8GB
drives or less called Ranish Partition Manager. I have some commercial
partition managers like Paragon, but that won't help you.

--
Bill
Gateway Celeron M 370 (1.5GHZ)
MX6124 (laptop) w/2GB
Windows XP Home SP2 (120GB HD)
Intel(r) 910GML (64MB shared)