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Old 07-15-2008, 09:39 PM
Salvador Freemanson
 
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Hello,
I use a separate hard disk when my son uses my laptop (he didn't bring
his own with him), as I don't want to catch his viruses, him to mess up
my work, install godknowswhat on my machine, etc.
It takes only a few seconds to change the disk, once the computer is
powered down.
But I've just found out that my son doesn't always bother to power it
down. A couple of times he changed the disks while it was in hibernation
mode. And I suspect even on occasions when the machine was just in standby.

Can any harm come to my laptop through this? On one occasion I got the
famous blue screen for a few moments before the computer went through
the coming out of hibernation process.

Cheers


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Old 07-15-2008, 10:00 PM
olfart
 
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"Salvador Freemanson" <spam@gohome.com> wrote in message
news:487d18f8$0$6116$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
> Hello,
> I use a separate hard disk when my son uses my laptop (he didn't bring his
> own with him), as I don't want to catch his viruses, him to mess up my
> work, install godknowswhat on my machine, etc.
> It takes only a few seconds to change the disk, once the computer is
> powered down.
> But I've just found out that my son doesn't always bother to power it
> down. A couple of times he changed the disks while it was in hibernation
> mode. And I suspect even on occasions when the machine was just in
> standby.
>
> Can any harm come to my laptop through this? On one occasion I got the
> famous blue screen for a few moments before the computer went through the
> coming out of hibernation process.
>
> Cheers
>
>


yes...kick his butt and then tell him to get his own machine to screw up


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Old 07-15-2008, 10:14 PM
BillW50
 
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Default Re: swapping hard disks

In news:487d18f8$0$6116$426a74cc@news.free.fr,
Salvador Freemanson typed on Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:39:04 +0200:
> Hello,
> I use a separate hard disk when my son uses my laptop (he didn't bring
> his own with him), as I don't want to catch his viruses, him to mess
> up my work, install godknowswhat on my machine, etc.
>
> It takes only a few seconds to change the disk, once the computer is
> powered down.


You are a smart man! And to add, they sell software so you can do the same
thing with one hard drive. Things like Go Back and EAZ-FIX comes to mind if
you ever want to go that route. Windows built in System Restore is like
these, but only protects systems files and doesn't help if you can't even
boot.

I am assuming you are using a spare hard drive tray for your laptop model.
When during so, one can swap out the hard drive in mere seconds (on most
modern laptops). I do this all of the time actually. But I do so only for
testing purposes only.

> But I've just found out that my son doesn't always bother to power it
> down. A couple of times he changed the disks while it was in
> hibernation mode. And I suspect even on occasions when the machine
> was just in standby.
> Can any harm come to my laptop through this? On one occasion I got the
> famous blue screen for a few moments before the computer went through
> the coming out of hibernation process.
>
> Cheers


Pulling a hard drive out under power isn't normally a good thing. Under
standby, well not quite that bad. As there is no writing to the hard drive
at this time. Swapping the hard drive under standby, you should be okay 99%
of the time anyway. But you are pushing it.

Under hibernation and the laptop is actually off. You should be perfectly
fine as long as the hardware doesn't change. Meaning the hardware you have
plugged into the laptop doesn't change, etc. And the hibernation mode writes
to the hard drive that is in the computer at the time. The other hard drive,
this doesn't matter at all. Only when that hard drive that was hibernated is
placed back in and booted.

--
Bill
Gateway Celeron M 370 (1.5GHZ)
MX6124 (laptop) w/2GB
Windows XP Home SP2 (120GB HD)
Intel(r) 910GML (64MB shared)


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Old 07-16-2008, 03:05 AM
Barry Watzman
 
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Default Re: swapping hard disks

It's not a good practice, but the hard drive should be off in either
Hibernate or Standby.


Salvador Freemanson wrote:
> Hello,
> I use a separate hard disk when my son uses my laptop (he didn't bring
> his own with him), as I don't want to catch his viruses, him to mess up
> my work, install godknowswhat on my machine, etc.
> It takes only a few seconds to change the disk, once the computer is
> powered down.
> But I've just found out that my son doesn't always bother to power it
> down. A couple of times he changed the disks while it was in hibernation
> mode. And I suspect even on occasions when the machine was just in standby.
>
> Can any harm come to my laptop through this? On one occasion I got the
> famous blue screen for a few moments before the computer went through
> the coming out of hibernation process.
>
> Cheers
>
>

** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:18 AM
Salvador Freemanson
 
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ol**** wrote:
> "Salvador Freemanson" <spam@gohome.com> wrote in message
> news:487d18f8$0$6116$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
>> Hello,
>> I use a separate hard disk when my son uses my laptop (he didn't bring his
>> own with him), as I don't want to catch his viruses, him to mess up my
>> work, install godknowswhat on my machine, etc.
>> It takes only a few seconds to change the disk, once the computer is
>> powered down.
>> But I've just found out that my son doesn't always bother to power it
>> down. A couple of times he changed the disks while it was in hibernation
>> mode. And I suspect even on occasions when the machine was just in
>> standby.
>>
>> Can any harm come to my laptop through this? On one occasion I got the
>> famous blue screen for a few moments before the computer went through the
>> coming out of hibernation process.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>

>
> yes...kick his butt and then tell him to get his own machine to screw up
>
>

He was travelling light when he came and is only staying a week.
I can't complain too much, as I tend to get his computer hand-me-downs
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:35 AM
samurai
 
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:05:05 -0400, Barry Watzman
<WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote:

>It's not a good practice, but the hard drive should be off in either
>Hibernate or Standby.
>
>
>Salvador Freemanson wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I use a separate hard disk when my son uses my laptop (he didn't bring
>> his own with him), as I don't want to catch his viruses, him to mess up
>> my work, install godknowswhat on my machine, etc.
>> It takes only a few seconds to change the disk, once the computer is
>> powered down.
>> But I've just found out that my son doesn't always bother to power it
>> down. A couple of times he changed the disks while it was in hibernation
>> mode. And I suspect even on occasions when the machine was just in standby.
>>
>> Can any harm come to my laptop through this? On one occasion I got the
>> famous blue screen for a few moments before the computer went through
>> the coming out of hibernation process.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>

>** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **


Changing a hardrive in Standby is NOT a good idea, as the computer is
on, with information in RAM. If you swap the hard drive in Standby
state, it will be ******* up when starting up. And, since it is on
technically, there could be potential for electrical damage to the
laptop.

In Hibernation, XP writes all information in RAM to the hard drive,
then shuts down completely. So it is safe to change the drive, start
the computer, shut it down again and swap back your drive. It will
start up from the last hiberanted mode.

samurai.
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Old 07-16-2008, 07:09 AM
M.I.5¾
 
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"Salvador Freemanson" <spam@gohome.com> wrote in message
news:487d18f8$0$6116$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
> Hello,
> I use a separate hard disk when my son uses my laptop (he didn't bring his
> own with him), as I don't want to catch his viruses, him to mess up my
> work, install godknowswhat on my machine, etc.
> It takes only a few seconds to change the disk, once the computer is
> powered down.
> But I've just found out that my son doesn't always bother to power it
> down. A couple of times he changed the disks while it was in hibernation
> mode. And I suspect even on occasions when the machine was just in
> standby.
>
> Can any harm come to my laptop through this? On one occasion I got the
> famous blue screen for a few moments before the computer went through the
> coming out of hibernation process.
>


Swapping the hard drive in hibernate mode is perfectly OK. As far as the
hardware in the machine is concerned it is powered off.

Swapping in standby mode is a different matter. Some parts of the laptop
are still powered though the hard drive isn't one of them. The biggest risk
is some event causing the laptop to come out of standby while you are
removing the disc drive.

Parts should really only be swapped if the AC power is disconnected and the
battery removed. Of course if you do this while the laptop is in standby
then the session is lost.


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