battery in our out?

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audaxrex@hotmail.com typed on Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:44:34 -0700 (PDT):
> just to add - we lose our hydro power here on a regular basis, and my
> tower has crashed a fair number of times in consequence. I have not
> had subsequent problems. Is it possible that the effects of a crash of
> this type are exaggerated?
> I think I will be unclipping my laptop batteries from now on.

I agree with leaving the battery part out. Although I must add, about 2%
of the time if the computer loses power when booting Windows. It
corrupts the boot configuration while it is writing to the drive and it
can make the OS unbootable.

Although if you make backups, this isn't a big deal. Or if you have the
knowledge what files Windows needs to boot and all, can get you through
too. And if this happens all of the time because of the environment,
incorporating MS EWF in Windows XP would be the way I would go. I do
have EWF installed in most of my computers, but for different reasons.

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2

<audaxrex@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 26, 4:55 am, "M.I.5¾" <no....@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
> > The worst thing any fool can do is brag about how long his sellphone
> > will run on a charge, running it dead every time and cycling it into
> > deep-as-it-can. Plug all your li-ion devices into their chargers at
> > every opportunity. My sellphone battery is 5 years old and works great,
> > too! Don't point out to him he's trashing his battery. They get so
> > upset if you point to their little *****es.....(c;]
>
> 5 years is still young for a battery.
>
> I have Li-ion batteries that are now 15 years old that have been regularly
> fully discharged to their end point before being recharged. Although all a
> showing a reduction in capacity, the only ill effect is that one's voltage
> drops to 3.9 volts when removed from charge. It still has a similar
> capacity to the others.
>
> The other thing that causes Li-ion batteries to deteriorate is simply not
> using them. They require the equivalent of a full charge/discharge roughly
> every 45 days to have the maximum life. That and not drawing too much
> current.

just to add - we lose our hydro power here on a regular basis, and my
tower has crashed a fair number of times in consequence. I have not
had subsequent problems. Is it possible that the effects of a crash of
this type are exaggerated?
I think I will be unclipping my laptop batteries from now on.

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It all depends on at what point in the procedings the power fails.
Generally, if the hard disk is in the middle of a data write operation, that
operation is unlikely to be completed. Exactly what effect this has
depends, of course, on what was being written at the time. If it is some
bit of user data, then that data may not be available after the outage. If,
on the other hand, it was an important system file, then effects may vary
from some part of the OS not working properly to a system that will not
boot.

If you lose power regularly, then consider a UPS. If you search on the net,
you can find some very good UPSs that are sold for less money than could buy
just the battery for.

On Nov 2, 4:08*am, "M.I.5¾" <no....@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
> <audax...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6b633640-3791-41ac-b6b6-d0d69546148e@f10g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 26, 4:55 am, "M.I.5¾" <no....@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > The worst thing any fool can do is brag about how long his sellphone
> > > will run on a charge, running it dead every time and cycling it into
> > > deep-as-it-can. Plug all your li-ion devices into their chargers at
> > > every opportunity. My sellphone battery is 5 years old and works great,
> > > too! Don't point out to him he's trashing his battery. They get so
> > > upset if you point to their little *****es.....(c;]
>
> > 5 years is still young for a battery.
>
> > I have Li-ion batteries that are now 15 years old that have been regularly
> > fully discharged to their end point before being recharged. Although all a
> > showing a reduction in capacity, the only ill effect is that one's voltage
> > drops to 3.9 volts when removed from charge. It still has a similar
> > capacity to the others.
>
> > The other thing that causes Li-ion batteries to deteriorate is simply not
> > using them. They require the equivalent of a full charge/discharge roughly
> > every 45 days to have the maximum life. That and not drawing too much
> > current.
>
> just to add - we lose our hydro power here on a regular basis, and my
> tower has crashed a fair number of times in consequence. I have not
> had subsequent problems. Is it possible that the effects of a crash of
> this type are exaggerated?
> * * I think I will be unclipping my laptop batteries from now on.
>
> ----------
>
> It all depends on at what point in the procedings the power fails.
> Generally, if the hard disk is in the middle of a data write operation, that
> operation is unlikely to be completed. *Exactly what effect this has
> depends, of course, on what was being written at the time. *If it is some
> bit of user data, then that data may not be available after the outage. *If,
> on the other hand, it was an important system file, then effects may vary
> from some part of the OS not working properly to a system that will not
> boot.
>
> If you lose power regularly, then consider a UPS. *If you search on the net,
> you can find some very good UPSs that are sold for less money than could buy
> just the battery for.

thanks, both of you, and i will consider a ups. This little netbook
(Acer Aspire n270) is so amazing, tho', that i may drop the tower
altogether - dax

audaxrex@hotmail.com wrote on Fri, 6 Nov 2009 05:20:52 -0800 (PST):
> thanks, both of you, and i will consider a ups. This little netbook
> (Acer Aspire n270) is so amazing, tho', that i may drop the tower
> altogether - dax

Yes UPS are really nice. You can also plug in other low power devices
like your cordless phone too, so they still work when the power goes out.

And yes these netbooks are really slick. Many are realizing that they
don't need anything else. Also it is hard to believe they can pack
everything in such a tiny box, eh?

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)