Hi, I recently sold a laptop to a customer who wanted the laptop ide
drive to be upgraded to a 7200 rpm one. I put in a 60GB
"HTS726060M9AT00" Hitachi Drive. He took the laptop, used it for two
days and brought the laptop back. I check the usual, ram, hard drive,
all the connections to the motherboard. Everything seemed fine but
nothing would come on the screen. So I gave the customer a second
laptop, with the 7200 rpm Hitachi Drive. He came back again after 2
two days and the laptop is completely dead. The only common thing
between the two laptops that I gave to the customer was the hard
drive. I am inclined to think that the 7200rpm drive is not meant for
these old laptops. The first laptop was a Toshiba Satellite 4300. The
second laptop is a Toshiba Tecra 8200. Would the difference between
the 5400 rpm drive and the 7200 rpm be that much more, in terms of
heat generation and power consumption?
aqueeb@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi, I recently sold a laptop to a customer who wanted the laptop ide
> drive to be upgraded to a 7200 rpm one. I put in a 60GB
> "HTS726060M9AT00" Hitachi Drive. He took the laptop, used it for two
> days and brought the laptop back. I check the usual, ram, hard drive,
> all the connections to the motherboard. Everything seemed fine but
> nothing would come on the screen. So I gave the customer a second
> laptop, with the 7200 rpm Hitachi Drive. He came back again after 2
> two days and the laptop is completely dead. The only common thing
> between the two laptops that I gave to the customer was the hard
> drive. I am inclined to think that the 7200rpm drive is not meant for
> these old laptops. The first laptop was a Toshiba Satellite 4300. The
> second laptop is a Toshiba Tecra 8200. Would the difference between
> the 5400 rpm drive and the 7200 rpm be that much more, in terms of
> heat generation and power consumption?
>
> Anyone with any experience on this, please share.
>
> Thank you,
> Aqueeb.
I suspect 7200 RPM drives produce more heat, and heat can be a
problem even with 5400 RPM drives on some laptops, since all the
components are crammed into such a small space. If you order a NEW
laptop with a 7200 RPM drive, the manufacturer puts in a more powerful
cooling fan. I'm no expert, but that would be my guess. Whenever I put
my hand on a running 7200 RPM drive, I'm always surprised at how much
heat they generate.
aqueeb@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi, I recently sold a laptop to a customer who wanted the laptop ide
> drive to be upgraded to a 7200 rpm one. I put in a 60GB
> "HTS726060M9AT00" Hitachi Drive. He took the laptop, used it for two
> days and brought the laptop back. I check the usual, ram, hard drive,
> all the connections to the motherboard. Everything seemed fine but
> nothing would come on the screen. So I gave the customer a second
> laptop, with the 7200 rpm Hitachi Drive. He came back again after 2
> two days and the laptop is completely dead. The only common thing
> between the two laptops that I gave to the customer was the hard
> drive. I am inclined to think that the 7200rpm drive is not meant for
> these old laptops. The first laptop was a Toshiba Satellite 4300. The
> second laptop is a Toshiba Tecra 8200. Would the difference between
> the 5400 rpm drive and the 7200 rpm be that much more, in terms of
> heat generation and power consumption?
>
> Anyone with any experience on this, please share.
>
> Thank you,
> Aqueeb.
Your question begs for another one: you certainly tried putting back a
slower hard drive in the laptops that were supposedly "killed" by the
7200 rpm drive. What (if anything) did you find wrong?
I doubt very much any heat dissipation difference would cause the
problem. Vibrations is another matter worth looking into.
Besides the hard drive commonality factor, there is also the customer
.... I guess we need more info to start guessing.
aqueeb@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi, I recently sold a laptop to a customer who wanted the laptop ide
> drive to be upgraded to a 7200 rpm one. I put in a 60GB
> "HTS726060M9AT00" Hitachi Drive. He took the laptop, used it for two
> days and brought the laptop back. I check the usual, ram, hard drive,
> all the connections to the motherboard. Everything seemed fine but
> nothing would come on the screen. So I gave the customer a second
> laptop, with the 7200 rpm Hitachi Drive. He came back again after 2
> two days and the laptop is completely dead. The only common thing
> between the two laptops that I gave to the customer was the hard
> drive. I am inclined to think that the 7200rpm drive is not meant for
> these old laptops. The first laptop was a Toshiba Satellite 4300. The
> second laptop is a Toshiba Tecra 8200. Would the difference between
> the 5400 rpm drive and the 7200 rpm be that much more, in terms of
> heat generation and power consumption?
>
> Anyone with any experience on this, please share.
>
> Thank you,
> Aqueeb.
Just over a year ago I replaced the original IBM 6GB Travelstar in the
Toshiba Satellite 2710XDVD I bought in july 2000 with a Hitachi
HTS721060G9AT00 (60GB limited to 32GB, 7200rpm).
I don't use the laptop very much but now and then the laptop is running
for hours.
Normally it sits on my desktop when I use it.
No problems up to now.
aqueeb@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi, I recently sold a laptop to a customer who wanted the laptop ide
> drive to be upgraded to a 7200 rpm one. I put in a 60GB
> "HTS726060M9AT00" Hitachi Drive. He took the laptop, used it for two
> days and brought the laptop back. I check the usual, ram, hard drive,
> all the connections to the motherboard. Everything seemed fine but
> nothing would come on the screen. So I gave the customer a second
> laptop, with the 7200 rpm Hitachi Drive. He came back again after 2
> two days and the laptop is completely dead. The only common thing
> between the two laptops that I gave to the customer was the hard
> drive. I am inclined to think that the 7200rpm drive is not meant for
> these old laptops. The first laptop was a Toshiba Satellite 4300. The
> second laptop is a Toshiba Tecra 8200. Would the difference between
> the 5400 rpm drive and the 7200 rpm be that much more, in terms of
> heat generation and power consumption?
>
> Anyone with any experience on this, please share.
>
> Thank you,
> Aqueeb.
I started the little program "HDD Temperature" (www.hddtemp.com) on the
Toshiba laptop half an hour ago.
The room temperature is just over 26C.
It reports now while just idling a HDD temperature of 30C.
The 80GB 7200RPM Hitachi in my desktop reports 36C with the same little
program which is confirmed by "HD Tune" (www.hdtune.com) on the same
computer.
aqueeb@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi, I recently sold a laptop to a customer who wanted the laptop ide
> drive to be upgraded to a 7200 rpm one. I put in a 60GB
> "HTS726060M9AT00" Hitachi Drive. He took the laptop, used it for two
> days and brought the laptop back. I check the usual, ram, hard drive,
> all the connections to the motherboard. Everything seemed fine but
> nothing would come on the screen. So I gave the customer a second
> laptop, with the 7200 rpm Hitachi Drive. He came back again after 2
> two days and the laptop is completely dead. The only common thing
> between the two laptops that I gave to the customer was the hard
> drive. I am inclined to think that the 7200rpm drive is not meant for
> these old laptops. The first laptop was a Toshiba Satellite 4300. The
> second laptop is a Toshiba Tecra 8200. Would the difference between
> the 5400 rpm drive and the 7200 rpm be that much more, in terms of
> heat generation and power consumption?
>
> Anyone with any experience on this, please share.
>
> Thank you,
> Aqueeb.
The 8 year old Toshiba 2710XDVD with the 60GB 7200rpm Hitachi
HTS721060G9AT00 harddisk installed is now running for over 1hr 30mins on
my desk with a temperature in the room of just over 26C.
The drive temperature stabilized at 33C.
After defragging the disk the temperature went to 36C.
It felt only luke warm when taking it out of the computer.
The only issue, really, is power consumption. The power consumed by a
drive gets turned into heat (essentially all of it) .... so if you look
at power consumption, you are looking at everything relevant. However,
there is a difference between the specification / label consumption and
the actual consumption. Some drives, in fact, draw a LOT less than
their specification consumption. Also, you cannot equate spindle speed
with power consumption (or heat generation). SOME faster drives use
less power than some slower drives.
aqueeb@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi, I recently sold a laptop to a customer who wanted the laptop ide
> drive to be upgraded to a 7200 rpm one. I put in a 60GB
> "HTS726060M9AT00" Hitachi Drive. He took the laptop, used it for two
> days and brought the laptop back. I check the usual, ram, hard drive,
> all the connections to the motherboard. Everything seemed fine but
> nothing would come on the screen. So I gave the customer a second
> laptop, with the 7200 rpm Hitachi Drive. He came back again after 2
> two days and the laptop is completely dead. The only common thing
> between the two laptops that I gave to the customer was the hard
> drive. I am inclined to think that the 7200rpm drive is not meant for
> these old laptops. The first laptop was a Toshiba Satellite 4300. The
> second laptop is a Toshiba Tecra 8200. Would the difference between
> the 5400 rpm drive and the 7200 rpm be that much more, in terms of
> heat generation and power consumption?
>
> Anyone with any experience on this, please share.
>
> Thank you,
> Aqueeb.
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Eric P. (EricP@discussions.planet.nl) wrote:
> I started the little program "HDD Temperature" (www.hddtemp.com) on the
> Toshiba laptop half an hour ago.
> The room temperature is just over 26C.
(Snip)
*** How can software know the temperature? Did it come with a
thermometer?
Disk drives have a temperature sensor in them and they actually record
their own temperature (on the disk; if you return a drive for warranty
service, in theory it could be denied because the manufacturer could say
(and prove) that during it's life the drive was not adequately
ventilated and overheated (and they could be specific as to how hot it
got). CPUs also have temperature sensors. Most motherboards also have
a temperature sensor, somewhere on the motherboard.
In news:c747$489c6e68$30501@news.teranews.com,
Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> typed:
> Richard Bonner wrote:
>> *** How can software know the temperature? Did it come with a
>> thermometer?
>
> Disk drives have a temperature sensor in them and they actually record
> their own temperature (on the disk; if you return a drive for warranty
> service, in theory it could be denied because the manufacturer could
> say (and prove) that during it's life the drive was not adequately
> ventilated and overheated (and they could be specific as to how hot it
> got). CPUs also have temperature sensors. Most motherboards also
> have a temperature sensor, somewhere on the motherboard.
It is called S.M.A.R.T. (Self-Monitoring Analysis and Reporting Technology).
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