"Jim" <chief_jim@go.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:31:30 -0400, Ed Cregger wrote:
>
>>> Experiment a little. Download for yourself PCLinuxOS 2007, burn the
>>> Live- CD, and give it a whirl.
>>>
>>> Unlike many other Linux distributions this one is very easy to install
>>> and navigate within. Many new users say it is the one "most like XP"
>>> as far as user friendliness goes.
>>>
>>> But in the beginning just try it as a Live-CD.
>>>
>>> Well worth your time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Jim. I'll do that.
>>
>> Ed Cregger
>
>
> Have you tried it yet?
>
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No, it isn't number one on my to do list.
I experimented with Linux, about five years ago. I couldn't get anything to
work. Mostly due to my lapses in memory and failing cognitive abilities. It
is way too complicated when starting from line zero. I'm ill and old, so it
does not come as a surprise to me. I'm not looking to join the Linux
priesthood, BTDT in other endeavors.
I want an operating system that can take care of itself, without my input. I
want a system that is impervious to being manipulated by anyone, including
me. The perfect OS would be on a Prom or card with a Prom and memory chips
that cannot be added to, or deleted, without physical replacement of the
chips.
In order to obtain such a system I am willing to give up data mining,
security leaks (backdoors) and all of the other negative things that happen
in today's world.
The primary operating system should not be updateable via the net or any
kind of software. That is the only way to prevent others from compromising
our systems. With such an operating system, there would be no need for anti
virus or anti spyware cleaning programs that must be renewed annually. No
more worries about financial information theft - at least not from my own
hard drive.
I don't care if I can't see the latest whiz bang fad, whatever it is. My
computer is a tool for me, like a hammer or a microwave oven. The days of
wild, fabulous, ever changing computer culture are over for me. Have been
for years. To me, the computer is as high tech as the latest spin balanced
tire balancer. I'm no longer a kid that hangs on breathlessly for the latest
this or that to emerge on the computer.
No, don't recommend an Apple to me, they are just as old paradigm, but in a
different way. It is time for a new direction to emerge. One which puts
computers in their proper place - mostly built into other devices. Yes, I
know. This is blasphemy to many computer freaks. I used to be there too.
After learning Basic, Dos, Windows and a few other side trips, I am weary of
learning new systems, only to seem them fall from favor and replaced by
something else. Where does it end? It ends here. The human brain can only
hold so much data and still retain the urge to learn new systems. New
systems that will evaporate and fade into the past, like everything else. I
just want to check my email, write a novel, chat with friends and
upload/download music/videos. That's all.
Thanks for your helpful information, but I doubt I'll be learning a new OS
any time soon. I was just being polite and appreciative of your beneficence.
> I want an operating system that can take care of itself, without
> my input. I want a system that is impervious to being manipulated
> by anyone, including me. The perfect OS would be on a Prom or card
> with a Prom and memory chips that cannot be added to, or deleted,
> without physical replacement of the chips.
>
> In order to obtain such a system I am willing to give up data
> mining, security leaks (backdoors) and all of the other negative
> things that happen in today's world.
>
> The primary operating system should not be updateable via the net
> or any kind of software. That is the only way to prevent others
> from compromising our systems. With such an operating system,
> there would be no need for anti virus or anti spyware cleaning
> programs that must be renewed annually. No more worries about
> financial information theft - at least not from my own hard drive.
Even though it's not exactly what you're talking about, having a
hidden backup copy of Windows makes my system bulletproof like that.
When something goes wrong that I don't want to mess with, a simple
procedure that takes about 30 minutes restores it to its prior known-
good condition.
"John Doe" <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Ed Cregger" <ecregger@bellsouff.net> wrote:
>
>> I want an operating system that can take care of itself, without
>> my input. I want a system that is impervious to being manipulated
>> by anyone, including me. The perfect OS would be on a Prom or card
>> with a Prom and memory chips that cannot be added to, or deleted,
>> without physical replacement of the chips.
>>
>> In order to obtain such a system I am willing to give up data
>> mining, security leaks (backdoors) and all of the other negative
>> things that happen in today's world.
>>
>> The primary operating system should not be updateable via the net
>> or any kind of software. That is the only way to prevent others
>> from compromising our systems. With such an operating system,
>> there would be no need for anti virus or anti spyware cleaning
>> programs that must be renewed annually. No more worries about
>> financial information theft - at least not from my own hard drive.
>
> Even though it's not exactly what you're talking about, having a
> hidden backup copy of Windows makes my system bulletproof like that.
> When something goes wrong that I don't want to mess with, a simple
> procedure that takes about 30 minutes restores it to its prior known-
> good condition.
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Do you have to see some wildly aberrant behavior to know when to reinstall
your backup, or is there a more subtle way to tell when all is night right?
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 03:03:26 -0400, Ed Cregger wrote:
>
> No, it isn't number one on my to do list.
>
> I experimented with Linux, about five years ago. I couldn't get anything
> to work. Mostly due to my lapses in memory and failing cognitive
> abilities. It is way too complicated when starting from line zero. I'm
> ill and old, so it does not come as a surprise to me. I'm not looking to
> join the Linux priesthood, BTDT in other endeavors.
>
>
> Ed Cregger
In that case you are cheating yourself. A Live-CD is the easiest way to
see how far Linux has come. Also great for comparing one distribution to
another without having to change anything first to do so.
No learning curve needed. Only time involved is that needed to download
the image file and to burn it to a disc.
FWIW it has been many decades since I was a youth as well. Hint, I
retired 23 years ago.
> Do you have to see some wildly aberrant behavior to know when to
> reinstall your backup, or is there a more subtle way to tell when
> all is night right?
A scan with Ad-Aware or whatever scanner that shows something
malicious. There are lots of possibilities short of system failure
for restoring my backup of Windows, like anything that isn't right
and isn't easily fixed (trouble installing a driver or a new
program that turns out wrong). Disk managers come with boot CDs, so
even if there were a catastrophic system failure, you can recover a
known good copy of Windows using the boot CD. Just make sure
important files are kept on removable media, as always.
I've had some minor issues with Acronis Disk Director so far, like
relabeling a partition was done out of order and like failure to
process queued tasks on reboot simply because a USB flash drive was
inserted (not sure where the fault lies, but it doesn't matter much
anyway). Otherwise it's probably the easiest to use.
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 03:03:26 -0400, Ed Cregger wrote:
>> I experimented with Linux, about five years ago. I couldn't get
>> anything to work. Mostly due to my lapses in memory and failing
>> cognitive abilities. It is way too complicated when starting from
>> line zero. I'm ill and old, so it does not come as a surprise to
>> me. I'm not looking to join the Linux priesthood, BTDT in other
>> endeavors.
> In that case you are cheating yourself.
> No learning curve needed.
And the cow jumped over the moon.
By the way. I laughed because it looked like you were making fun of
the Linux spammers in this thread... the Linux Lunatic says "try
this" and the dreamer comes along and says "will do" without
actually ever doing anything.
Nobody can use it and nobody wants it, so stop spamming it here.
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:57:05 +0000, John Doe wrote:
>
> Nobody can use it and nobody wants it, so stop spamming it here.
The spam is your own. Had Ed or yourself actually tried it you'd have
seen just how friendly PCLinuxOS really is.
Five years ago I wished that Linux were as easy to use as it is now. You
won't try it because you'd hate to eat crow. Much too easy for you to
say you once tried it and it didn't work. I struggled back then as well
with Red Hate and SuSE.
Pity we aren't neighbors. Because then I'd suggest we build two machines
from scratch. Then install our OS's and software. See who has a
working, reliable machine first.
On 12 Jul 2008 21:34:57 GMT, Jim <chief_jim@go.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:44:14 +0100, Mark wrote:
>
>>>Dropping isn't the only scenario. Few years back I was still using
>>>Quicken from time to time. Then one morning I discovered the
>>>application was severely crippled. Turns out that Intuit has a sunset
>>>policy and mine had reached that date. Simply said it was their way of
>>>saying upgrade or tough luck.
>>>
>>>As with my recommendation to Ed start by downloading a copy of PCLinuxOS
>>>2007. Burn and load the Live-CD.
>>>
>>>While in live mode go to the package manager and first reload to get a
>>>complete set of updates and the full listing of available software.
>>>Next download Kmymoney2. Check it out. I've been using it ever since
>>>and have never looked back. Yes, you can download and "install"
>>>software while still in live disc mode. Just note that none of it will
>>>be saved when you shut down.
>>>
>>>Here's a link so you can check it out beforehand:
>>>http://kmymoney2.sourceforge.net/index-home.html
>>
>> I haven't heard of that one. I'll check it out, thanks.
>
>Have you tried it yet?
Not yet. It's not yet "top of my list" of things to do!
--
(\__/) M.
(='.'=) Owing to the amount of spam posted via googlegroups and
(")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking most articles
posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by
everyone you will need use a different method of posting.
See http://improve-usenet.org
Mark, I am going to follow your recommendation. It occured to me that many
changes have probably taken place in the five years since I tried Unix
before. Now to find the post with your recomendations again...
Ed, NM2K
"Mark" <i@getlotsofspamthankstoplus.net> wrote in message
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> On 12 Jul 2008 21:34:57 GMT, Jim <chief_jim@go.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:44:14 +0100, Mark wrote:
>>
>>>>Dropping isn't the only scenario. Few years back I was still using
>>>>Quicken from time to time. Then one morning I discovered the
>>>>application was severely crippled. Turns out that Intuit has a sunset
>>>>policy and mine had reached that date. Simply said it was their way of
>>>>saying upgrade or tough luck.
>>>>
>>>>As with my recommendation to Ed start by downloading a copy of PCLinuxOS
>>>>2007. Burn and load the Live-CD.
>>>>
>>>>While in live mode go to the package manager and first reload to get a
>>>>complete set of updates and the full listing of available software.
>>>>Next download Kmymoney2. Check it out. I've been using it ever since
>>>>and have never looked back. Yes, you can download and "install"
>>>>software while still in live disc mode. Just note that none of it will
>>>>be saved when you shut down.
>>>>
>>>>Here's a link so you can check it out beforehand:
>>>>http://kmymoney2.sourceforge.net/index-home.html
>>>
>>> I haven't heard of that one. I'll check it out, thanks.
>>
>>Have you tried it yet?
>
> Not yet. It's not yet "top of my list" of things to do!
>
> --
> (\__/) M.
> (='.'=) Owing to the amount of spam posted via googlegroups and
> (")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking most articles
> posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by
> everyone you will need use a different method of posting.
> See http://improve-usenet.org
>
"Jim" <chief_jim@go.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:57:05 +0000, John Doe wrote:
>
>>
>> Nobody can use it and nobody wants it, so stop spamming it here.
>
>
> The spam is your own. Had Ed or yourself actually tried it you'd have
> seen just how friendly PCLinuxOS really is.
>
> Five years ago I wished that Linux were as easy to use as it is now. You
> won't try it because you'd hate to eat crow. Much too easy for you to
> say you once tried it and it didn't work. I struggled back then as well
> with Red Hate and SuSE.
>
> Pity we aren't neighbors. Because then I'd suggest we build two machines
> from scratch. Then install our OS's and software. See who has a
> working, reliable machine first.
>
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I have several iso CD's setup to run Linux on my computers, Jim. My problem
with Linux occurs when I try to install it on the hard drive. I haven't had
Linux install successfully even once and I follow the instructions to the
tee. Or I used to, five years ago. But, I realize that you are correct. Much
can change in five years.
The most demanding tasks that I do with a PC are recording my own music that
I write,play and record via Cakewalk's Sonar Producer Edition program. It
also handles video recording and editing fairly well too. That's in a
Windows environment.
For Linux music recording, I bought a program named Rose Garden, some years
ago. No matter which iso disk I load (Linux OS), I cannot get Rose Garden to
run. Nor can I figure out how to set up the hard drive partitions so that
Linux will work properly from the hard drive.
I'm sure the problem is me, but that doesn't help me any. Why can't someone
create a Linux installer that does all of that for you? Maybe they have done
just that in the last five years and I don't know it?
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