On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:31:50 -0400, Ed Cregger wrote:
> "Tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:7d4274h9ricgjgtptq1iu5tfcmuiiud51j@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:33:55 +0800, "Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k)"
>> <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> OK I like XP cos it's better for games. Win2K was not good for games.
>>>> Vista is not good for games.
>>>
>>>XP does not support DirectX 10, and would never support 10...
>>
>>
>> Never say never....
>>
>>
>> -T-
>>
>>
> ------------
>
> I've been using Microsoft products since the first versions of DOS were
> available. For many years I was happy with their products, but then,
> during the last ten or so years, they have become too powerful, too
> monopolistic and too greedy. I can no longer have a warm and fuzzy
> feeling about the company.
>
> I remember when one could buy a version of DOS and load it onto as many
> machines as they desired. I actually looked forward to buying more MS
> software in those days. It was understood that the operating system was
> basically a freebie and the real money was to be made in later MS
> iterations of popular software. Needless to say, this is no longer the
> case.
>
> Frankly, having come from the old days and growing up computer-wise with
> MS, I am bitter at the company and resentful. I do not wish them well
> and I am ready to jump ship as quickly as another operating system is
> available, at a decent price and without all of the user limitations
> foisted upon us by MS. I have long suspected that this operating system
> would spring from the minds of Asian folks.
>
> Apple? No, snobs without reason. More limiting than MS, without any of
> the utility. Apple is a dead-end, as long as they continue with our
> perceived current business style and philosophy.
>
> After all, folks, these machines are nothing more than glorified
> calculators. There is no more magic involved in computing than there is
> in heating up last night's meal with a microwave oven. The Genie died
> long ago, for me.
>
> If MS makes it impossible for me to continue to run XP, I'll move
> elsewhere. I refuse to run an operating system that will not let me
> easily remove it or reconfigure it. Our machines are not so complicated
> that an electronics/software technician is absolutely necessary to piece
> one together, or modify the system's focus/performance. They are, as
> stated previously, just glorified calculators.
>
> I've owned Vista and I got rid of Vista. It sucks. I'll go to Linux
> before going back to Vista. Then I will sever all ties with MS. It's up
> to them.
>
> Ed Cregger
Experiment a little. Download for yourself PCLinuxOS 2007, burn the Live-
CD, and give it a whirl.
Unlike many other Linux distributions this one is very easy to install
and navigate within. Many new users say it is the one "most like XP" as
far as user friendliness goes.
> OK I like XP cos it's better for games. Win2K was not good for
> games. Vista is not good for games.
>
> I care about my games. Should I panic?
Doesn't matter for current games.
Whether future games will require DirectX 10 depends on how many
Windows XP (DirectX 10) users there are in the market.
Sooner or later, there will be little pain and significant benefit
moving to Vista. It's just a matter of time.
By the way. There is a workaround for Windows XP authentication, for
legitimate users who don't like asking Microsoft for permission to
reinstall their operating system. It's bound to be the same for
Vista eventually. Microsoft can't write something that highly
skilled techies can't fix, it just isn't possible.
"Jim" <chief_jim@go.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:31:50 -0400, Ed Cregger wrote:
>
>> "Tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>> news:7d4274h9ricgjgtptq1iu5tfcmuiiud51j@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:33:55 +0800, "Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k)"
>>> <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> OK I like XP cos it's better for games. Win2K was not good for games.
>>>>> Vista is not good for games.
>>>>
>>>>XP does not support DirectX 10, and would never support 10...
>>>
>>>
>>> Never say never....
>>>
>>>
>>> -T-
>>>
>>>
>> ------------
>>
>> I've been using Microsoft products since the first versions of DOS were
>> available. For many years I was happy with their products, but then,
>> during the last ten or so years, they have become too powerful, too
>> monopolistic and too greedy. I can no longer have a warm and fuzzy
>> feeling about the company.
>>
>> I remember when one could buy a version of DOS and load it onto as many
>> machines as they desired. I actually looked forward to buying more MS
>> software in those days. It was understood that the operating system was
>> basically a freebie and the real money was to be made in later MS
>> iterations of popular software. Needless to say, this is no longer the
>> case.
>>
>> Frankly, having come from the old days and growing up computer-wise with
>> MS, I am bitter at the company and resentful. I do not wish them well
>> and I am ready to jump ship as quickly as another operating system is
>> available, at a decent price and without all of the user limitations
>> foisted upon us by MS. I have long suspected that this operating system
>> would spring from the minds of Asian folks.
>>
>> Apple? No, snobs without reason. More limiting than MS, without any of
>> the utility. Apple is a dead-end, as long as they continue with our
>> perceived current business style and philosophy.
>>
>> After all, folks, these machines are nothing more than glorified
>> calculators. There is no more magic involved in computing than there is
>> in heating up last night's meal with a microwave oven. The Genie died
>> long ago, for me.
>>
>> If MS makes it impossible for me to continue to run XP, I'll move
>> elsewhere. I refuse to run an operating system that will not let me
>> easily remove it or reconfigure it. Our machines are not so complicated
>> that an electronics/software technician is absolutely necessary to piece
>> one together, or modify the system's focus/performance. They are, as
>> stated previously, just glorified calculators.
>>
>> I've owned Vista and I got rid of Vista. It sucks. I'll go to Linux
>> before going back to Vista. Then I will sever all ties with MS. It's up
>> to them.
>>
>> Ed Cregger
>
>
> Experiment a little. Download for yourself PCLinuxOS 2007, burn the Live-
> CD, and give it a whirl.
>
> Unlike many other Linux distributions this one is very easy to install
> and navigate within. Many new users say it is the one "most like XP" as
> far as user friendliness goes.
>
> But in the beginning just try it as a Live-CD.
>
> Well worth your time.
>
>
> Jim
"John Doe" <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
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> ToolPackinMama <philnblanc@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> OK I like XP cos it's better for games. Win2K was not good for
>> games. Vista is not good for games.
>>
>> I care about my games. Should I panic?
>
> Doesn't matter for current games.
>
> Whether future games will require DirectX 10 depends on how many
> Windows XP (DirectX 10) users there are in the market.
>
> Sooner or later, there will be little pain and significant benefit
> moving to Vista. It's just a matter of time.
>
> By the way. There is a workaround for Windows XP authentication, for
> legitimate users who don't like asking Microsoft for permission to
> reinstall their operating system. It's bound to be the same for
> Vista eventually. Microsoft can't write something that highly
> skilled techies can't fix, it just isn't possible.
Well, I guess the truth is out. I'm not a highly skilled Techie. But I'm
still good with radios. <G>
>> Experiment a little. Download for yourself PCLinuxOS 2007, burn
>> the Live- CD, and give it a whirl.
>>
>> Unlike many other Linux distributions this one is very easy to
>> install and navigate within. Many new users say it is the one
>> "most like XP" as far as user friendliness goes.
>>
>> But in the beginning just try it as a Live-CD.
>>
>> Well worth your time.
>>
>>
>> Jim
>
>
> Thanks, Jim. I'll do that.
Let us know how it's going, from time to time.
Bon voyage.
>
> Ed Cregger
>
>
>
>
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"John Doe" <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Ed Cregger" <ecregger bellsouff.net> wrote:
>
>> "Jim" <chief_jim go.com> wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>>> Experiment a little. Download for yourself PCLinuxOS 2007, burn
>>> the Live- CD, and give it a whirl.
>>>
>>> Unlike many other Linux distributions this one is very easy to
>>> install and navigate within. Many new users say it is the one
>>> "most like XP" as far as user friendliness goes.
>>>
>>> But in the beginning just try it as a Live-CD.
>>>
>>> Well worth your time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Jim. I'll do that.
>
> Let us know how it's going, from time to time.
> Bon voyage.
>
> John Doe
----------
I've been there before, John. I am getting very disgusted with MS and their
pranks.
How long will it be until we have to renew our license for the OS on an
annual basis? The handwriting is on the wall. I don't need them, nor their
OS that bad.
>
>"Tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>news:7d4274h9ricgjgtptq1iu5tfcmuiiud51j@4ax.com.. .
>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:33:55 +0800, "Man-wai Chang ToDie (33.6k)"
>> <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> OK I like XP cos it's better for games. Win2K was not good for games.
>>>> Vista is not good for games.
>>>
>>>XP does not support DirectX 10, and would never support 10...
>>
>>
>> Never say never....
>>
>>
>> -T-
>>
>
>------------
>
>I've been using Microsoft products since the first versions of DOS were
>available. For many years I was happy with their products, but then, during
>the last ten or so years, they have become too powerful, too monopolistic
>and too greedy. I can no longer have a warm and fuzzy feeling about the
>company.
I've also been using Microsoft products since the beginning. I was
not happy with DOS, having used better OSs before it.
DOS was a real pain for me, as a software developer, because it could
not do much. I usually had to write my own OS in order to do my job,
since the customer wanted "DOS". Even up to Windows 98 things were
still bad. The development machines still needed rebooting regularly.
When windows NT came along things improved. But, with XP, the rot
started again with more bloat and very little useful added. Vista is
100 times worse.
>Frankly, having come from the old days and growing up computer-wise with MS,
>I am bitter at the company and resentful. I do not wish them well and I am
>ready to jump ship as quickly as another operating system is available, at a
>decent price and without all of the user limitations foisted upon us by MS.
>I have long suspected that this operating system would spring from the minds
>of Asian folks.
I'm going to give Linux a serious look as soon as I have the time.
Apart from Microsoft Money, there are serious contenders for most
applications I use. If Microsoft drop Money for the UK as they appear
to be doing then I'll have no reason to keep Windows.
>I've owned Vista and I got rid of Vista. It sucks. I'll go to Linux before
>going back to Vista. Then I will sever all ties with MS. It's up to them.
Agreed. Where I work we had to "upgrade" to Vista. A lot of us wasted
about a week trying to get it to work properly. None of the software
I use on a regular basis worked at all so I went back to XP.
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On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:35:53 +0100, Mark wrote:
>
> I'm going to give Linux a serious look as soon as I have the time. Apart
> from Microsoft Money, there are serious contenders for most applications
> I use. If Microsoft drop Money for the UK as they appear to be doing
> then I'll have no reason to keep Windows.
>
Dropping isn't the only scenario. Few years back I was still using
Quicken from time to time. Then one morning I discovered the application
was severely crippled. Turns out that Intuit has a sunset policy and
mine had reached that date. Simply said it was their way of saying
upgrade or tough luck.
As with my recommendation to Ed start by downloading a copy of PCLinuxOS
2007. Burn and load the Live-CD.
While in live mode go to the package manager and first reload to get a
complete set of updates and the full listing of available software. Next
download Kmymoney2. Check it out. I've been using it ever since and have
never looked back. Yes, you can download and "install" software while
still in live disc mode. Just note that none of it will be saved when
you shut down.
On 09 Jul 2008 10:04:34 GMT, Jim <chief_jim@go.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:35:53 +0100, Mark wrote:
>>
>> I'm going to give Linux a serious look as soon as I have the time. Apart
>> from Microsoft Money, there are serious contenders for most applications
>> I use. If Microsoft drop Money for the UK as they appear to be doing
>> then I'll have no reason to keep Windows.
>>
>
>Dropping isn't the only scenario. Few years back I was still using
>Quicken from time to time. Then one morning I discovered the application
>was severely crippled. Turns out that Intuit has a sunset policy and
>mine had reached that date. Simply said it was their way of saying
>upgrade or tough luck.
>
>As with my recommendation to Ed start by downloading a copy of PCLinuxOS
>2007. Burn and load the Live-CD.
>
>While in live mode go to the package manager and first reload to get a
>complete set of updates and the full listing of available software. Next
>download Kmymoney2. Check it out. I've been using it ever since and have
>never looked back. Yes, you can download and "install" software while
>still in live disc mode. Just note that none of it will be saved when
>you shut down.
>
>Here's a link so you can check it out beforehand:
>http://kmymoney2.sourceforge.net/index-home.html
I haven't heard of that one. I'll check it out, thanks.
--
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(")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking most articles
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See http://improve-usenet.org
> "John Doe" <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
>> "Ed Cregger" <ecregger bellsouff.net> wrote:
>>> "Jim" <chief_jim go.com> wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>>> Experiment a little. Download for yourself PCLinuxOS 2007,
>>>> burn the Live- CD, and give it a whirl.
>>>>
>>>> Unlike many other Linux distributions this one is very easy to
>>>> install and navigate within. Many new users say it is the one
>>>> "most like XP" as far as user friendliness goes.
>>>>
>>>> But in the beginning just try it as a Live-CD.
>>>>
>>>> Well worth your time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, Jim. I'll do that.
>>
>> Let us know how it's going, from time to time. Bon voyage.
<snip, please keep quotes as is>
> I've been there before, John.
Welcome back.
> I am getting very disgusted with MS and their pranks.
You are over a decade late to the party.
> I don't need them, nor their OS that bad.
That might be true, depending on the applications you use. For the
vast majority of users, too many applications require Windows.
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