> Mac Cool wrote:
>
>> Unlike the linux world, people actually get paid to write drivers
>> for Windows so that Windows users can take advantage of new
>> technology before it becomes obsolete.
>
>
> You are thinking of the way things were five or ten years ago.
> Nowadays people are paid to write drivers for Linux.
That applies to every piece of hardware I looked for. Maybe you can
find an exception there. But more likely we will hear the worn out
"somewhere over the rainbow... at sourceforge" mantra. That's a
fantasy land argument, meaningless to a real PC user.
So, writing this from my Amiga, I have to laugh at the pale and faded OS
religiosity based comments. I've used Amigas for 22 years, it's the
place
I learned about plug and play, 32 bit pre-emptive multitasking and
custom
co-processors, all well before commodore went **** up in 94. Amiga does
CLI and GUI with equal ease.
And, despite the fact that I am currently running AOS4@800MHz on a
PPC 750FX it is as fast and responsive as the core2duo windows box
that is running only free and open software and the quad core ubuntu
64 bit box.
Don't bother telling me about resources and depth of processing, I
said fast and responsive, I'm not implying an 800MHz ppc chip is a
match in depth and breadth with a duo or quad core. But mail, news,
text processing, DTP and so on, the daily stuff is fast and responsive.
The real reason I am posting is that no one seems to be willing to
address the question, is 4G RAM for XP worth it?
The reason I ask is that I have onboard graphics on my duo and was
wondering if I brought it up to 4G of dual channel RAM would that RAM
be used as shared gfx RAM and leave XP with the 3.4ish it is supposed
to "see" or would it just not be there?
In message <110961350612362.NC-AmigaOS4.anamigan@news.dccnet.com>
"anamigan" <anamigan@home.org> wrote:
>Don't bother telling me about resources and depth of processing, I
>said fast and responsive, I'm not implying an 800MHz ppc chip is a
>match in depth and breadth with a duo or quad core. But mail, news,
>text processing, DTP and so on, the daily stuff is fast and responsive.
Indeed.
NT4 on a high end 486 was a real pleasure to use too, for it's day.
>The real reason I am posting is that no one seems to be willing to
>address the question, is 4G RAM for XP worth it?
>
>The reason I ask is that I have onboard graphics on my duo and was
>wondering if I brought it up to 4G of dual channel RAM would that RAM
>be used as shared gfx RAM and leave XP with the 3.4ish it is supposed
>to "see" or would it just not be there?
You're in a relatively rare arena where you may actually get the benefit
of most of your RAM, although some will still likely be lost.
Honestly the answer is likely motherboard specific, you will probably
have to test to find out, I doubt anyone here can tell you conclusively.
In article <Z1tYj.4926$nW2.2076@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>, jdoe@usenetlove.invalid says...
<snip>
> From NVIDIA's web site.
>
> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
>
> Using "Linux" in the Operating System field.
>
> "No downloads were found for your configuration."
>
> That applies to every piece of hardware I looked for. Maybe you can
> find an exception there. But more likely we will hear the worn out
> "somewhere over the rainbow... at sourceforge" mantra. That's a
> fantasy land argument, meaningless to a real PC user.
>
Bill wrote:
> In article <Z1tYj.4926$nW2.2076@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> jdoe@usenetlove.invalid says...
> <snip>
>
>> From NVIDIA's web site.
>>
>> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
>>
>> Using "Linux" in the Operating System field.
>>
>> "No downloads were found for your configuration."
>>
>> That applies to every piece of hardware I looked for. Maybe you can
>> find an exception there. But more likely we will hear the worn out
>> "somewhere over the rainbow... at sourceforge" mantra. That's a
>> fantasy land argument, meaningless to a real PC user.
>>
>
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
>
> Bill
When I used Fedora, I used to update my nvidia drivers manually. It
took a few hours to figure it out (4-5 years ago). It meant 10-15
minutes work including a reboot every few months. I don't know how many
of those updates improved anything. As I recall, when I switched to
Suse, updating the nvidia drivers got to be downright troublesome
through no fault of nvidia, I believe. Since switching to Ubuntu, I've
hardly thought about it, and video seems to work fine.
Dude,
Are you cutting and pasting rhetoric from 1990? You Linux freaks are all the same. Like I
said I was messing with that POS back when it had a chance. AFA govn and schools go, well
have you looked at what the gov and schools do on an everyday basis? They couldn't find
their collective asses with both hands.
Linux: Attitude first, OS second! And thats a fact you can hold unto. class-*** proves
that.
"class_a" <class_a@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:l9udnf9SHrB9trLVnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> John Doe wrote:
>> Matt <matt@themattfella.xxxyyz.com> wrote:
>>> JAD wrote:
>>>> Sorry...was around when linux was touted the next big OS, but we all know if you
>>>> were around then that, "LINUX is attitude first, OS second", and that kept it from
>>>> being anything.
>>>
>>> You're still around now, but I don't think you're much aware of recent moves toward
>>> Linux adoption by schools and governments.
>>
>> The completely and utterly dominant position of Windows has only strengthened in
>> commercial markets. And Microsoft deeply discounts the price of Windows for any market
>> it thinks might be important. If
>> Microsoft cares about a particular market where Linux might be
>> chosen over Windows, Microsoft floods that market with cheap or free
>> Windows. Linux being used by a particular school or government is
>> meaningless in the big picture.
>
> You really do talk some crap at times!! The dominant position of Windows is not down to
> it being a better product but because of the underhanded and illegal tactics that
> Microsoft employed to get to that position. Remember the DoJ court case in the US? In
> addition to that, at least twice they have been fined by the European Commission, the
> last one just a few weeks ago was for $1.4 BILLION "for anti-competitive behaviour"
> (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7392949.stm). You don't get fined like that if you
> are complying with laws and playing nice!
>
> Also, linux is not just being used by "a particular school or government"..... this is
> happening all around the world, google will throw up LOTS of examples if you'd care to
> actually open your eyes and look for the truth.
>
> Also, to back up my joking statement the other day that linux is 'greener', here's a
> report by the UK Government from last year that backs that up!
> http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/...fm?newsid=8226
>
> Now, have you yet decided how an E6850 can be faster than a Q6600 when both are clocked
> at 3GHz, both use Conroe cores, both have 9x multipliers, but the Q6600 has twice as
> many processing cores? Just how is that faster "John"? You said it was but have been
> unable to substantiate that statement which I guess just proves how much we should
> believe any of the drivel you post here.
"ToolPackinMama" <philnblanc@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:e8CdnZew3u3zG7LVnZ2dnUVZ_s7inZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> class_a wrote:
>
>> If you want a $GameOS, use Windows, because that is what it is.
>
> Exactly.
OMG what an ignorant statement...and for you to agree?,,,,pffft
>> The real reason I am posting is that no one seems to be willing to
>> address the question, is 4G RAM for XP worth it?
> But in fact the question was addressed immediately.
I must have completely missed that as it appears you have completely
missed the context of my question:
*"The reason I ask is that I have onboard graphics on my duo and was
*wondering if I brought it up to 4G of dual channel RAM would that RAM
*be used as shared gfx RAM and leave XP with the 3.4ish it is supposed
*to "see" or would it just not be there?"
> No one can tell you whether something is worth buying unless they know
> what you have, your needs, and your finances.
Onboard gfx and XP on a duo MB.
Specifically, P5B-VM core2duo +2G with 256M of shared gfx memory running
WindowsXP.
I was hoping someone here had the info off the top of their head, ie.
experience
with such a setup to allow my curiousity to be assuaged.
What I am going to do, is remove the core2duo and the current RAM and
then
upgrade to a Q6600 quad with 4G of matched Dual Channel (2x2G).
The core2duo and RAM will then wait on a reduced cost LGA 775 MB at
which time
it will replace the P4 on active duty as the family portal to the
internet.
> "No downloads were found for your configuration."
> That applies to every piece of hardware I looked for. Maybe you can
> find an exception there. But more likely we will hear the worn out
> "somewhere over the rainbow... at sourceforge" mantra. That's a
> fantasy land argument, meaningless to a real PC user.
Hmm, John, perhaps because they are included in the "Linux Distro"
itself.
After all, different OS's, engender different mindsets and approaches
to the way things are accomplished.
I installed Ubuntu 64 bit on an all onboard LGA 775 MB of very recent
vintage, sound, gfx, nic etc were all found and recognised. While not
a Linux or Windows fan I have certainly come to appreciate the ease of
use and upkeep of this particular distribution which is mostly at a
level
of auto magic ie. no effort on my part.
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