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  #61  
Old 05-18-2008, 01:29 AM
ToolPackinMama
 
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Default Re: Is it worth buying 4GB RAM for an XP machine?

class_a wrote:

> If you want a $GameOS, use Windows, because that is what it is.


Exactly.
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  #62  
Old 05-18-2008, 08:21 AM
Ken
 
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Default Re: Is it worth buying 4GB RAM for an XP machine?

On Thu, 15 May 2008 12:41:32 -0700, "nobody >" <usenetharvested@aol.com>
wrote:

> IF it was such a "100% stable" (??) opsys, why do I have to reboot my
> work machine daily (or more) just to be able to print MS Word docs?


Hardware problem.
http://www.eetimes.com/rss/showArtic...leID=199601761

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  #63  
Old 05-18-2008, 06:40 PM
nobody >
 
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Default Re: Is it worth buying 4GB RAM for an XP machine?

Ken wrote:
> On Thu, 15 May 2008 12:41:32 -0700, "nobody >" <usenetharvested@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> IF it was such a "100% stable" (??) opsys, why do I have to reboot my
>> work machine daily (or more) just to be able to print MS Word docs?

>
> Hardware problem.
> http://www.eetimes.com/rss/showArtic...leID=199601761
>


That old horsepucky about neutrons, cosmic rays, and ECC RAM? Yes, it's
possible.. probable *NO* !!

If that were the case, why don't the machines close to me have the same
problem?

Must be the can of SPAM (genuine Hormel low-sodium) that sits atop the
box, then.

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  #64  
Old 05-18-2008, 07:58 PM
Ken
 
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Default Re: Is it worth buying 4GB RAM for an XP machine?

On Sun, 18 May 2008 11:40:44 -0700, "nobody >" <usenetharvested@aol.com>
wrote:

>>> IF it was such a "100% stable" (??) opsys, why do I have to reboot my
>>> work machine daily (or more) just to be able to print MS Word docs?

>>
>> Hardware problem.
>> http://www.eetimes.com/rss/showArtic...leID=199601761

>
>
> That old horsepucky about neutrons, cosmic rays, and ECC RAM?
> Yes, it's possible.. probable *NO* !!
>
> If that were the case, why don't the machines close to me have
> the same problem?


Hardware.

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  #65  
Old 05-19-2008, 03:14 AM
Mac Cool
 
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Default Re: Is it worth buying 4GB RAM for an XP machine?

You know the one ****ing thing that you've written... you admit to using
XP at both home and work. For all your fervor, you cannot function
without XP.


class_a:
> If you don't do kernel updates in linux, you don't need to reboot at


myth

> believe the reason Windoze needs to be rebooted almost every time an


Only in your head, if you want a stable Windows machine, I'll be glad to
help you out. Clearly you are unable to rise above the clueless masses.

> Linux is about choice, something you don't get with Windows!


I made the choice to use an OS that allows me to do everything I need to
do without constantly fiddling with it. XP is a means to an end, not my
hobby.


> With Windows, everyone is forced to use the same thing.


linux is a hobby OS, people who like excuses to fiddle with their
computer in their spare time like linux because it keeps them out of the
sun.

>>> Name me an application, any application, and I should be able to
>>> find a FREE linux alternative that will do the same thing as an
>>> expensive Windoze version.

>>
>> Usenet binary application. Professional level vector graphics
>> program.

>
> The first example that springs instantly to mind for Usenet binaries
> is Pan (http://freshmeat.net/projects/pan/). There are lots of
> others.
>
> I don't work with vector graphics so don't know any off the top


Don't step up if you can't hit the ball. Pan is a piece of **** and
sucks for binaries. It was obvious you would name it since it's the only
newsreader for linux that works. You couldn't even name one professional
level vector graphics app.

> The reason hardware gets obsoleted so quickly is because every
> release of a Microsoft OS is more bloated than the last which forces


Somehow you've gotten this far in life without understanding how
business works... what is the average lifespan of tech products and I'm
not just referring to computers? Not very long if you haven't noticed.
Unlike the linux world, people actually get paid to write drivers for
Windows so that Windows users can take advantage of new technology
before it becomes obsolete.


> That was years ago..... try naming me something that is not supported
> in the latest linux distros today! USB mice? Wireless mice?
> graphics cards? firewire? Yup, yup, yup and yup. Linux had native
> S-ATA support on their install discs before Microsoft had!!


Well, linux is in a constant state of repair so new install discs are
created weekly. I'm glad though that linux has finally caught up to
Windows driverwise.

> complete. Try installing XP or Vista from scratch, install all the


I have to admit, you are correct. Linux does install very easily and the
process beats MS in every way. God forbid when something inevitably
breaks, but the install is truly brilliant.

> And the extra support Microsoft has???..... oh yeah, PAY Microsoft or
> someone with a Microsoft "qualification" to fix their broken product.


I have no idea what you're talking about. I've used MS support twice and
it was outstanding. Not only did they patiently help me solve my problem
(at no charge) but followed up with phone calls and emails for a couple
of weeks afterward both times to make sure the problem stayed fixed. And
I'm just an ordinary joe. On one of those calls, a MS tech stayed on the
line for 4.5 hours while we resolved the problem, a problem caused by
Real Player, not even their application but it had somehow mangled the
registry when I tried to uninstall it.

> If you don't want to do that, I can state categorically that the
> support you will receive for linux on newsgroups and forums is much
> more accurate and detailed than that provided on Windows groups,


You're insane, not even close. linux support is the absolute worst
feature about it. If something breaks its usually easier for a new user
to reinstall than figure out to fix it.

> And you have evidence to the contrary?


I presented as much evidence as you.

> You are a Microsoft fanboy and I claim my $5.


Oh no! First I was a troll, now a fanboy... countdown to facsist, I can
see it coming.

> Yes it is.


Spend some time away from Slashdot, all the subliminal 'everything is
microsoft's fault' has gotten to you.

> As I said further up, I don't use cheap hardware and when I did use
> Windows the machine was swept regularly for 'nasties' (which is
> additional support time that is not required for linux).


And yet you have an unstable machine, or you so you claim. Maybe the
stability problems are in your head. Next time you crash post here about
it and you might learn something.


> You'd install Vista on my hardware to make it slower?


I bet you jerk off during those mac commercials.


> The latest distros of linux will run on a Pentium-1, will Vista?


It doesn't need to, it supports modern hardware.

>>> I have MORE time to get out in the sun and to meet my neighbors.

>>
>> As if.

>
> And your evidence to the contrary?


Hmmm, lets look our post count over the weekend.

Me = zero, because I was out planting my garden, went to barbeque

You = a bunch, guess you were camped out spreading your linux mythology
and trolling hardware groups or maybe trying to get your mouse to work
in linux, who knows.

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  #66  
Old 05-19-2008, 03:16 AM
Mac Cool
 
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Default Re: Is it worth buying 4GB RAM for an XP machine?

Claude Hopper (11) 5. ?:

> Get 4 gig. It will come in handy when you convert to Linux and a dual
> boot machine.


If linux actually worked I wouldn't need to dual boot. I'll stick with the
one OS that does work.
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  #67  
Old 05-19-2008, 05:16 AM
Matt
 
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Default Re: Is it worth buying 4GB RAM for an XP machine?

Mac Cool wrote:

> linux is a hobby OS


That is a very limited view. I believe you are uninformed.
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  #68  
Old 05-19-2008, 05:21 AM
Paul
 
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nobody > wrote:
> Ken wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 12:41:32 -0700, "nobody >" <usenetharvested@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> IF it was such a "100% stable" (??) opsys, why do I have to reboot my
>>> work machine daily (or more) just to be able to print MS Word docs?

>>
>> Hardware problem.
>> http://www.eetimes.com/rss/showArtic...leID=199601761

>
> That old horsepucky about neutrons, cosmic rays, and ECC RAM? Yes, it's
> possible.. probable *NO* !!
>
> If that were the case, why don't the machines close to me have the same
> problem?
>
> Must be the can of SPAM (genuine Hormel low-sodium) that sits atop the
> box, then.
>


Then if the box is stable, you'd be able to run Prime95 on it, without
getting any errors. This is a good test of processor, northbridge, and
memory. When prompted, select torture test and use the default settings.
This version starts a thread per core. (If it is a work machine, and the
machine is not needed on the weekend, perhaps you could run the program
during an interval when the machine is not otherwise occupied.) If any
errors are detected, then the machine is not as stable as you think.
(This program can detect an error in as little as 10 seconds. That is
on a machine I was overclocking at the time.)

http://www.mersenne.org/gimps/p95v255a.zip

Paul
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:46 AM
John Doe
 
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Matt <matt@themattfella.xxxyyz.com> wrote:

> Mac Cool wrote:
>
>> linux is a hobby OS

>
> That is a very limited view. I believe you are uninformed.


Linux is a server OS. For PC users, it's pretty much useless since
it requires dual booting to Windows anyway. I do efficiency, so
running Linux and the required Windows too isn't my idea of fun.












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Old 05-19-2008, 10:17 AM
John Doe
 
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class_a <class_a@comcast.net> wrote:

> Linux is about choice,


You are an ignorant troll. The personal computer operating system
(Windows) is a standard programmers write to. Programmers and
comsumers chose Windows to begin with, and now Windows is entrenched
and there is no practical way to choose anything else. To help you
get a clue and do more than just spew nonsense, read the Microsoft
versus Department of Justice anti-trust trial district/appeals court
documents. Seriously, you might actually enjoy learning something
about the subject you are trolling about (anything is possible).

















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