> On Tue, 20 May 2008 13:29:05 GMT, John Doe wrote:
>
>> "anamigan" <anamigan home.org> wrote:
>
>>> The real reason I am posting is that no one seems to be willing
>>> to address the question, is 4G RAM for XP worth it?
>
>> But in fact the question was addressed immediately.
>
> I must have completely missed that as it appears you have
> completely missed the context of my question:
I saw what you are calling the context but that should have come
before that single paragraph inaccurate criticism IMO. Whatever.
> *"The reason I ask is that I have onboard graphics on my duo and
> was *wondering if I brought it up to 4G of dual channel RAM would
> that RAM *be used as shared gfx RAM and leave XP with the 3.4ish
> it is supposed *to "see" or would it just not be there?"
>> No one can tell you whether something is worth buying unless they
>> know what you have, your needs, and your finances.
>
> Onboard gfx and XP on a duo MB.
>
> Specifically, P5B-VM core2duo +2G with 256M of shared gfx memory
> running WindowsXP.
How much memory does Windows XP see now? If it sees all of your
memory, then apparently the shared video RAM is coming from that.
Open a video memory hungry application and open Task Manager.
Arrange processes by memory usage and look to see if that's on top.
> I was hoping someone here had the info off the top of their head,
> ie. experience with such a setup to allow my curiousity to be
> assuaged.
Do you even know how much video memory your applications use now?
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> I installed Ubuntu 64 bit on an all onboard LGA 775 MB of very
> recent vintage, sound, gfx, nic etc were all found and recognised.
> While not a Linux or Windows fan I have certainly come to
> appreciate the ease of use and upkeep of this particular
> distribution which is mostly at a level of auto magic ie. no
> effort on my part.
It would be major problem here since I depend on speech for
dictation to and automation of my PC.
Nope, not from 1990, the two links below are from 2007 and 2008. The
2008 link on the BBC website is of a recent court case (just a few weeks
ago) that cost Microsoft $1.4 BILLION for uncompetitive practices.
Did you actually look at the links before spouting off? Or are you a
typical M$ fanboy.... spouts off without actually checking their facts?
JAD wrote:
> Dude,
> Are you cutting and pasting rhetoric from 1990? You Linux freaks are all the same. Like I
> said I was messing with that POS back when it had a chance. AFA govn and schools go, well
> have you looked at what the gov and schools do on an everyday basis? They couldn't find
> their collective asses with both hands.
>
> Linux: Attitude first, OS second! And thats a fact you can hold unto. class-*** proves
> that.
>
>
>
>
> "class_a" <class_a@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:l9udnf9SHrB9trLVnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> John Doe wrote:
>>> Matt <matt@themattfella.xxxyyz.com> wrote:
>>>> JAD wrote:
>>>>> Sorry...was around when linux was touted the next big OS, but we all know if you
>>>>> were around then that, "LINUX is attitude first, OS second", and that kept it from
>>>>> being anything.
>>>> You're still around now, but I don't think you're much aware of recent moves toward
>>>> Linux adoption by schools and governments.
>>> The completely and utterly dominant position of Windows has only strengthened in
>>> commercial markets. And Microsoft deeply discounts the price of Windows for any market
>>> it thinks might be important. If
>>> Microsoft cares about a particular market where Linux might be
>>> chosen over Windows, Microsoft floods that market with cheap or free
>>> Windows. Linux being used by a particular school or government is
>>> meaningless in the big picture.
>> You really do talk some crap at times!! The dominant position of Windows is not down to
>> it being a better product but because of the underhanded and illegal tactics that
>> Microsoft employed to get to that position. Remember the DoJ court case in the US? In
>> addition to that, at least twice they have been fined by the European Commission, the
>> last one just a few weeks ago was for $1.4 BILLION "for anti-competitive behaviour"
>> (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7392949.stm). You don't get fined like that if you
>> are complying with laws and playing nice!
>>
>> Also, linux is not just being used by "a particular school or government"..... this is
>> happening all around the world, google will throw up LOTS of examples if you'd care to
>> actually open your eyes and look for the truth.
>>
>> Also, to back up my joking statement the other day that linux is 'greener', here's a
>> report by the UK Government from last year that backs that up!
>> http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/...fm?newsid=8226
>>
>> Now, have you yet decided how an E6850 can be faster than a Q6600 when both are clocked
>> at 3GHz, both use Conroe cores, both have 9x multipliers, but the Q6600 has twice as
>> many processing cores? Just how is that faster "John"? You said it was but have been
>> unable to substantiate that statement which I guess just proves how much we should
>> believe any of the drivel you post here.
>
>
John Doe wrote:
> class_a <class_a comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Mac Cool wrote:
>
>>> You couldn't even name one professional level vector graphics
>>> app.
>> True, but that is only because I don't use professional level
>> vector graphics apps
>
> That narrowminded logic is typical of your arguments.
So, you use every conceivable type of software available on your
computer? If not, then you are equally as narrowminded (but we know
that already).
>> Maybe you do so it is of interest to you (it's not to me), or
>> maybe you just think you know everything about everything.....
>> people like that tend to be hateful bar-stewards who think they
>> know it all but tend to know very little!!
>
> But in fact, he is the original author, and you are just a troll
> spewing off topic garbage.
And you are _always_ on topic???? LOL.
>>> You = a bunch, guess you were camped out spreading your linux
>>> mythology and trolling hardware groups or maybe trying to get
>>> your mouse to work in linux, who knows.
>> LOL. I'm a quick typist. It doesn't take long to rip you
>> comments to shreds.
>
> You're a worthless troll with a big fat ego.
You were the troll who said an E6850 is faster than a Q6600 when both
are clocked at 3GHz, both have Conroe cores, both have 9x multipliers,
but the Q6600 has twice as many processing cores. _YOU_ still have to
produce evidence to back that up. If you can't, _you_ are the troll!
John Doe wrote:
> Matt <matt@themattfella.xxxyyz.com> wrote:
>
>> Mac Cool wrote:
>>
>>> Unlike the linux world, people actually get paid to write drivers
>>> for Windows so that Windows users can take advantage of new
>>> technology before it becomes obsolete.
>>
>> You are thinking of the way things were five or ten years ago.
>> Nowadays people are paid to write drivers for Linux.
>
>
> From NVIDIA's web site.
>
> http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
>
> Using "Linux" in the Operating System field.
>
> "No downloads were found for your configuration."
>
> That applies to every piece of hardware I looked for. Maybe you can
> find an exception there.
You're really not very good at this web surfing lark, or else you are
trolling again. I went to www.nvidia.com, clicked on two links and
arrived at this page...... It was NOT hard to find!!!
Alex Baumann wrote:
> Ed Cregger wrote:
>
>> "class_a" <class_a@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:_sOdnVAm2_XNh6_VnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Mac Cool wrote:
>>>> Claude Hopper (11) 5. ?:
>>>>
>>>>> Get 4 gig. It will come in handy when you convert to Linux and a dual
>>>>> boot machine.
>>>> If linux actually worked I wouldn't need to dual boot. I'll stick with
>>>> the one OS that does work.
>>> Linux does work. It's only computer illiterates that have problems with
>>> it!
>>
>> I have noticed that Linux folks like to keep Linux complicated and
>> convoluted so that they can feel superior to others. It's sad, really.
>>
>
>
> I've noticed something similar, depending upon the venue. Clearly only an
> idiot would claim, "It's only computer illiterates that have problems with
> it!". Comments of this type are frequent on Digg and Slashdork.
>
> If a person wants to spend a bit of time and energy with one of the more
> popular Linux distros the results are often quite satisfactory. This is
> not to say installation and configuration will be trouble free. A recent
> install of Kubuntu 8.04 went sideways after the first reboot. A hour
> later, on the very same hardware, Debian Etch installed flawlessly. This
> is odd since Kubuntu is a derivative of Debian testing.
Not at all. The problem is people try to move over to linux and try to
bring their idiotic Windows ways of doing things with them and then
blame linux when it doesn't do what they expect. Linux != Windows so
don't expect it to do things exactly the same. If someone, with no
prior computer knowledge, started to learn on a linux system they would
have no more bother than they do on a Windows box. You sound like an
ideal candidate for reading http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
I was referring to the same old line.....and you have just validated that, as those LINKS
are no different than the links of old...........same BS different decade
"class_a" <class_a@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:I96dnZW4M_lPrK7VnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Nope, not from 1990, the two links below are from 2007 and 2008. The 2008 link on the
> BBC website is of a recent court case (just a few weeks ago) that cost Microsoft $1.4
> BILLION for uncompetitive practices.
>
> Did you actually look at the links before spouting off? Or are you a typical M$
> fanboy.... spouts off without actually checking their facts?
>
>
> JAD wrote:
>> Dude,
>> Are you cutting and pasting rhetoric from 1990? You Linux freaks are all the same. Like
>> I said I was messing with that POS back when it had a chance. AFA govn and schools go,
>> well have you looked at what the gov and schools do on an everyday basis? They couldn't
>> find their collective asses with both hands.
>>
>> Linux: Attitude first, OS second! And thats a fact you can hold unto. class-*** proves
>> that.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "class_a" <class_a@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:l9udnf9SHrB9trLVnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> John Doe wrote:
>>>> Matt <matt@themattfella.xxxyyz.com> wrote:
>>>>> JAD wrote:
>>>>>> Sorry...was around when linux was touted the next big OS, but we all know if you
>>>>>> were around then that, "LINUX is attitude first, OS second", and that kept it from
>>>>>> being anything.
>>>>> You're still around now, but I don't think you're much aware of recent moves toward
>>>>> Linux adoption by schools and governments.
>>>> The completely and utterly dominant position of Windows has only strengthened in
>>>> commercial markets. And Microsoft deeply discounts the price of Windows for any
>>>> market it thinks might be important. If
>>>> Microsoft cares about a particular market where Linux might be
>>>> chosen over Windows, Microsoft floods that market with cheap or free
>>>> Windows. Linux being used by a particular school or government is
>>>> meaningless in the big picture.
>>> You really do talk some crap at times!! The dominant position of Windows is not down
>>> to it being a better product but because of the underhanded and illegal tactics that
>>> Microsoft employed to get to that position. Remember the DoJ court case in the US?
>>> In addition to that, at least twice they have been fined by the European Commission,
>>> the last one just a few weeks ago was for $1.4 BILLION "for anti-competitive
>>> behaviour" (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7392949.stm). You don't get fined
>>> like that if you are complying with laws and playing nice!
>>>
>>> Also, linux is not just being used by "a particular school or government"..... this is
>>> happening all around the world, google will throw up LOTS of examples if you'd care to
>>> actually open your eyes and look for the truth.
>>>
>>> Also, to back up my joking statement the other day that linux is 'greener', here's a
>>> report by the UK Government from last year that backs that up!
>>> http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/...fm?newsid=8226
>>>
>>> Now, have you yet decided how an E6850 can be faster than a Q6600 when both are
>>> clocked at 3GHz, both use Conroe cores, both have 9x multipliers, but the Q6600 has
>>> twice as many processing cores? Just how is that faster "John"? You said it was but
>>> have been unable to substantiate that statement which I guess just proves how much we
>>> should believe any of the drivel you post here.
>>
>
> Not at all. The problem is people try to move over to linux and try to
> bring their idiotic Windows ways of doing things with them and then
> blame linux when it doesn't do what they expect. Linux != Windows so
> don't expect it to do things exactly the same. If someone, with no
> prior computer knowledge, started to learn on a linux system they would
> have no more bother than they do on a Windows box. You sound like an
> ideal candidate for reading http://l
John Doe wrote:
> class_a <class_a comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Did you actually look at the links before spouting off? Or are
>> you a typical M$ fanboy.... spouts off without actually checking
>> their facts?
>
> You are in a personal computer user group, where 95% use Windows,
> troll.
So, not answering questions again, I see! Have you worked out that
question about the E6850 and Q6600 yet, or was that a troll?
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