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  #21  
Old 06-30-2008, 10:33 PM
The Ghost In The Machine
 
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Default Re: What Linux distro to use for old Intel machine, that fits on CDs?

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Benjamin Gawert
<bgawert@gmx.de>
wrote
on Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:55:54 +0100
<6cppkmF3h13raU2@mid.individual.net>:
> * raylopez99:
>
>> So your argument then is for maintaining the status quo--running
>> Windows 2000.

>
> No, my argument is that you should finally get your act together and
> check what exactly you have.
>
> Benjamin


What he has is a machine satisfactorially running Win2k.
It is very strange that he wants to load Linux on it.

Did I miss something in the original problem specification?

Granted, Windows does appear to be getting bigger,
especially if one upgrades to Vista. Since that's not
in the gameplan, though, color me puzzled.

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  #22  
Old 06-30-2008, 11:21 PM
Mark Hobley
 
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Default Re: What Linux distro to use for old Intel machine, that fits on CDs?

raylopez99 <raylopez99@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you Mark for the Puppy Linux vote, though I take it you're
> relying on hearsay and have never tried it. What word processor and
> what web browser do you recommend for such a weak system?


I have used Puppy Linux, and it works fine. It comes with Mozilla
Seamonkey and Abiword.

Regards,

Mark.

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  #23  
Old 06-30-2008, 11:33 PM
Mark Hobley
 
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Default Re: What Linux distro to use for old Intel machine, that fits on CDs?

Benjamin Gawert <bgawert@gmx.de> wrote:

> Why? Windows 2000 runs out of the box on a Pentium 133 with 64MB.


Hmmm, I'm sure Microsoft have changed their minds, since I last looked at this,
but you appear to be right. That is what their website now says.

I used to run a 450Mhz Pentium with 128Mb RAM and Microsoft Windows '95.
My machine was way above specification, but the system ran like a pile
of ****. I'm glad the days of Microsoft Windows are over.

Mark.

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  #24  
Old 07-01-2008, 06:35 PM
JR Weiss
 
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Default Re: What Linux distro to use for old Intel machine, that fits on CDs?

"raylopez99" <raylopez99@yahoo.com> wrote...
>I have not been able to get a straight answer to this, despite almost
> a year of trying.
>
> Maybe three's the charm?
>
> Here goes again...
>
> I have an old machine, not my main machine, nearly in mothballs that
> somebody uses on occasion to surf the net and print a letter on a
> recent model HP inkjet using OpenOffice as the word processor
> program. The machine is running on Windows 2000. The machine is an
> Intel Pentium II, about 200 MHz clock, with about 500 MB RAM (or maybe
> it's 225, I upgraded it but forgot what it was, but I'm pretty sure
> it's 512 MB). The C: hard drive is only 2 GB large--the only one for
> the OS. This was a popular configuration in the mid to late 90s so
> I'm sure a lot of these machines exist in the world, so somebody must
> have loaded Linux on one of them.
>
> The machine has no DVD, only a CD reader. It has a late 90s but
> popular video card, forget the brand.
>
> What Linux distro to use for this configuration? I can, using another
> PC, download a distro, but then I would have to burn it onto a CD or
> CDs, so I would rather not do that--that is, I would rather get or buy
> a Linux distro that is already burnt, in proper order, onto labeled
> CDs to make installation easier.


Look at Knoppix and Ubuntu. Both have "live CD" distributions that you can test
by running directly from the CD. You'll have to check if either or both will
send you a CD.

I ran Knoppix on my old P3-550 and on an HP laptop.


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Old 07-01-2008, 06:38 PM
JR Weiss
 
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Default Re: What Linux distro to use for old Intel machine, that fits on CDs?

"raylopez99" <raylopez99@yahoo.com> wrote...

> Thanks for the Elive cite. I just checked their website--and it fits the
> bill. However, they insist on money for the "fits on one CD version".


> I don't want to pay for something that might not work.


I don't know why you expect somebody to spend their own $$ to send you a CD! If
you're that cheap, no wonder you've been "trying" for a year!



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  #26  
Old 07-01-2008, 09:41 PM
Benjamin Gawert
 
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Default Re: What Linux distro to use for old Intel machine, that fits onCDs?

* Mark Hobley:

>> Why? Windows 2000 runs out of the box on a Pentium 133 with 64MB.

>
> Hmmm, I'm sure Microsoft have changed their minds, since I last looked at this,
> but you appear to be right. That is what their website now says.


It's also what it said even before Windows2000 came out and is
completely in line with support of older hardware in former Windows
releases.

Benjamin
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  #27  
Old 07-02-2008, 03:41 PM
raylopez99
 
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Default Re: What Linux distro to use for old Intel machine, that fits on CDs?

On Jun 30, 2:31*pm, The Ghost In The Machine
<ew...@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote:

> You will have to go into more detail as to what you expect
> the user of that machine to do:
>
> - Browsing?


YES

> - Email?


YES

> - Flash Gameplay (e.g., ArmorGames, Miniclip)?
> - Native Gameplay (e.g., Halo, UT, Quake)?
> - Spreadsheets?


NO

> - Documentation?


OpenOffice or Word or even Google Apps.

> - Software development?
> * * C/C++?
> * * .NET?
> * * Java?
> * * Other?


Hell no! I doubt you can compile a decent console mode program on PII
without pulling out your hairs, once you're used to a modern multicore
machine.

>
> You can tryhttp://www.****smalllinux.org/if you just want to
> experiment; it's one of the lighter-weight distros, occupying
> only 50MB of disk space.
>


Yes, I got the distro for this. Like you said, the problem is linux
evolves over time, and I'm trying to install a 2008 OS (linux) on a
1996 machine.

RL
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  #28  
Old 07-02-2008, 04:14 PM
Psyc Geek
 
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Default Re: What Linux distro to use for old Intel machine, that fits on CDs?

use the ATARI. you can get one for like 50 cents at a swap meet.
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  #29  
Old 07-02-2008, 09:07 PM
Benjamin Gawert
 
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Default Re: What Linux distro to use for old Intel machine, that fits onCDs?

* Psyc Geek:
> use the ATARI. you can get one for like 50 cents at a swap meet.


Really? The last ATARIs I've seen weren't that cheap any more (at least
if the condition was somewhat good) as they seem to become collector's
items.

Benjamin
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  #30  
Old 07-02-2008, 10:02 PM
The Ghost In The Machine
 
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Default Re: What Linux distro to use for old Intel machine, that fits on CDs?

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, raylopez99
<raylopez99@yahoo.com>
wrote
on Wed, 2 Jul 2008 07:41:29 -0700 (PDT)
<05d155f1-76b1-4ff8-8154-36df7ff760c4@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>:
> On Jun 30, 2:31*pm, The Ghost In The Machine
> <ew...@sirius.tg00suus7038.net> wrote:
>
>> You will have to go into more detail as to what you expect
>> the user of that machine to do:
>>
>> - Browsing?

>
> YES


OK. IE7 or Firefox. IE8 is pending, AIUI.
Opera, Epiphany, and Galeon are also available,
depending on OS.

>
>> - Email?

>
> YES


OK. Bat, Eudora, Evolution, balsa, kmail, in no particular order.

>
>> - Flash Gameplay (e.g., ArmorGames, Miniclip)?
>> - Native Gameplay (e.g., Halo, UT, Quake)?
>> - Spreadsheets?

>
> NO


OK. Be advised disney.com requires Flash 9.

>
>> - Documentation?

>
> OpenOffice or Word or even Google Apps.


OK, Microsoft Word, Write, Word Perfect, emacs, kate.

>
>> - Software development?
>> * * C/C++?
>> * * .NET?
>> * * Java?
>> * * Other?

>
> Hell no! I doubt you can compile a decent console mode program on PII
> without pulling out your hairs, once you're used to a modern multicore
> machine.


A point, that.

>
>>
>> You can tryhttp://www.****smalllinux.org/if you just want to
>> experiment; it's one of the lighter-weight distros, occupying
>> only 50MB of disk space.
>>

>
> Yes, I got the distro for this. Like you said, the problem is linux
> evolves over time, and I'm trying to install a 2008 OS (linux) on a
> 1996 machine.


And you've *still* not said why you specifically wanted to do this,
as opposed to reinstalling Win2k. (Perhaps I've missed it, but
why are you switching operating systems?)

>
> RL


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