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  #41  
Old 07-23-2008, 07:14 PM
John Doe
 
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Default Re: WD Raptor or WD Caviar in RAID setup?

"Rarius" <rarius rarius.co.uk> wrote:

> "John Doe" <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message


>> Try to find user reviews that support your excitement about
>> Samsung F1 hard drives. The user reviews I've seen and posted
>> above in this thread suggest that they are unreliable and not
>> well supported.

>
> I am getting sick of YOUR narrow minded attacks on myself and
> Dasilvor.


You not knowing what an OEM hard drive is speaks for itself!

> You have shown yourself to be rude, arrogant and
> unwilling to listen to anyone elses point of view.


I'm still listening for user reviews that support your excitement
about Samsung F1 hard drives! The user reviews I've seen and posted
above in this thread suggest that they are unreliable and not well
supported!

Let's see it!

> You can't even think of an original nick!


Is that supposed to be a personal attack?!

> I answered the original posters question. I didn't expect this
> kind of personal attack. I just don't understand immature idiots
> like you who seem to get off on rubbishing other people's
> opinions.


Because your opinion is rubbish!

> The original post asking for advice wasn't even from you. All I
> ever said was that it was worth looking at other drives like the
> Spinpoint F1 and not just consider WD Raptors.


Looking up at the subject line, the original post was asking about
Western Digital hard drives in RAID setup!



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  #42  
Old 07-23-2008, 07:19 PM
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"Rarius" <rarius rarius.co.uk> wrote:

>>>>> the Samsungs all come with a three year warranty!
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you're talking about the retail version!!!
>>>
>>> What other version would I be talking about?

>>
>> Most of us homebuilders buy basic OEM hardware/components, like
>> from an online merchant. That's what Newegg is, DaSilvor, as you
>> could easily find out by searching the Internet.

>
> So now you can talk for the thousands of other homebuilders...


That's my impression from homebuilders in this group! But certainly
there are lots of homebuilders in the world! Where do they hang out,
Rarius?!

> You certainly cant speak for me, and I have been self-building PCs
> since the 386! And been doing it as my job for most of that time!


That's amazing, Rarius, considering you don't even know what an OEM
hard drive is! Wow!
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  #43  
Old 07-23-2008, 07:26 PM
DaSilvor
 
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"John Doe" <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Rarius" <rarius rarius.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>> the Samsungs all come with a three year warranty!
>>>
>>> Maybe you're talking about the retail version!!!

>>
>> What other version would I be talking about?

>
> Most of us homebuilders buy basic OEM hardware/components, like from
> an online merchant. That's what Newegg is, DaSilvor, as you could
> easily find out by searching the Internet.


I did just that after sending the post. At the time of posting I didn't know
what it was.
Anyway, that still doesn't help Matt, who was asking a question about which
hard drive to get.

Still the UK warrantee information still stands, so Matt, in the UK you will
still be protected if it is DOA or dies shortly after getting it.

What is the legal situation for warrantees in the US?


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  #44  
Old 07-23-2008, 07:37 PM
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"John Doe" <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Shadow39" <no no.com> wrote:
>> "Rarius" <rarius rarius.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:1216821749_519025 pro-front01.com...
>>> "John Doe" <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:cLxhk.18259$Ri.9153 flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...
>>>> "DaSilvor" <dasilvor rarius.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I will repeat my original assessment, that I would not buy
>>>>> a 150gb harddrive for o115, no matter how fast it is.
>>>>
>>>> That might matter if the world revolved around DaSilvor.
>>>>
>>>> Lose the ego, dude.
>>>
>>> Anybody else thinking of a phrase with the words "pot", "kettle"
>>> and "black" in it?
>>>
>>> Rarius

>>
>> Oh yea. John Doe is the LAST dude to be telling anyone to lose
>> thier ego....

>
> Says a nym-shifting troll in agreement with someone who claims
> to have no posting history at all.


If you are referring to me JD, I didn't say I had no posting history, only
that that was my first post on Usenet.
I have only offered my personal opinion of the value of a hard drive that is
nearly five times more expensive than a standard unit, and I stand by it.
If you can't deal with that JD then that's your problem not mine.
Judging by the comment by Shadow39 this seems to be a familiar theme.

Matt. I hope you are still reading. Good luck with whatever hard drive you
decide to get. I'm sorry it has degenerated into this.

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  #45  
Old 07-23-2008, 07:49 PM
John Doe
 
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"DaSilvor" <dasilvor@rarius.co.uk> wrote:

> I'm sorry it has degenerated into this.


Sometimes silly claims get questioned and debunked. That's something
USENET is about. Tact is great and I respect it, but we can be
straightforward/blunt here too.

"It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood..."




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  #46  
Old 07-23-2008, 07:55 PM
Matt
 
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On Jul 22, 11:14*pm, "DaSilvor" <dasil...@rarius.co.uk> wrote:
> > Maybe you're talking about the retail version!!!

>
> I'm thinking we are talking cross purposes here.
> John, Given you used $'s below, you are in the US?
> Matt you used £'s in your message, so you are in the UK?


Yes I am in the UK

>
> The US and the UK obviously have different laws about warrantee.
>
> First off in the UK when you buy something you have a statutory 12 month warranty. Also your contract is with the retailer not the manufacturer; so if it goes wrong in the first 12 months the retailer is responsible for sorting it out. They may decide to send it to the manufacturer, but they must still provide you with a 'fit for purpose' product. They cannot get out of this, regardless of what they tell you. They can have the unit repaired or they can replace it with a new unit, it's their choice. After the statutory period, you are in the hands of the manufacturer, but they advertise a full 36 month warrantee, so they have to honour it.
> It's either that or the trading standards and the like will get involved and the publicity alone is not woth the hassle of replacing the hardrive.
>
> Matt, if you are concerned with the warrantee then contact trading standards, they will give you the official position on warrantee and the like.


If the manufacturer provides a 3 year warrenty, thenthat's as far as
my concern stretches. The point of getting WD drives is, in my
experience, they have been reliable and quiet. I got an IBM Deskstar
back in 2000 when they were by far the fastest IDE drives on the
market, but that drive didn't last for more than 2-3 years and was a
lot noiser then what I have now. I get the feeling this Samsung drive
would be a similar thing.

>
> I will repeat my original assessment, that I would not buy a 150gb harddrive for £115, no matter how fast it is. I haven't checked your motherboard details so I can't confirm Rarius's comment on the raid controller, but if it doesn't have one, just get a good harddrive at a reasonable price. If you are loading lots of data on a one off basis, then the speed of the drive will make a difference, all be it a small one. If you are reloading the same data then you may be better off with more ram (You haven't said what spec your machine is, so I'm guessing that you are not fully loaded with ram)..


I am building the PC in the next few days, but I will have 4GB of RAM
in the machine.

>
> I'm not familiar with Newegg, John. *What is it, please? *I guess it's a forum of some kind, but I know no details.


It's a US website that sells computer stuff, but also has an excellent
feedback section I have found very useful.

Kind Regards,

Matt
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:03 PM
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I just noticed both you (DaSilvor) and Rarius are posting from
Pronews.com. Would you like to plead "coincidence"?



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> "John Doe" <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
> news:QHxhk.18258$Ri.14558 flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...
>> "Rarius" <rarius rarius.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>>> the Samsungs all come with a three year warranty!
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you're talking about the retail version!!!
>>>
>>> What other version would I be talking about?

>>
>> Most of us homebuilders buy basic OEM hardware/components, like from
>> an online merchant. That's what Newegg is, DaSilvor, as you could
>> easily find out by searching the Internet.

>
> I did just that after sending the post. At the time of posting I didn't know
> what it was.
> Anyway, that still doesn't help Matt, who was asking a question about which
> hard drive to get.
>
> Still the UK warrantee information still stands, so Matt, in the UK you will
> still be protected if it is DOA or dies shortly after getting it.
>
> What is the legal situation for warrantees in the US?
>
>
> DaSilvor
>
>
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:24 PM
Shadow39
 
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"John Doe" <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Shadow39" <no no.com> wrote:
>> "Rarius" <rarius rarius.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:1216821749_519025 pro-front01.com...
>>> "John Doe" <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:cLxhk.18259$Ri.9153 flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...
>>>> "DaSilvor" <dasilvor rarius.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I will repeat my original assessment, that I would not buy
>>>>> a 150gb harddrive for o115, no matter how fast it is.
>>>>
>>>> That might matter if the world revolved around DaSilvor.
>>>>
>>>> Lose the ego, dude.
>>>
>>> Anybody else thinking of a phrase with the words "pot", "kettle"
>>> and "black" in it?
>>>
>>> Rarius

>>
>> Oh yea. John Doe is the LAST dude to be telling anyone to lose
>> thier ego....

>
> Says a nym-shifting troll in agreement with someone who claims
> to have no posting history at all.
>


Posting history means **** for nothing when its a history full of putting
people down, bashing, and general rudeness across the board. 95% of your
posting history is insulting people and telling them they are wrong with no
basis to back it up, and that makes YOU the troll!


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Old 07-23-2008, 08:48 PM
DaSilvor
 
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"John Doe" <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> I just noticed both you (DaSilvor) and Rarius are posting from
> Pronews.com. Would you like to plead "coincidence"?


Nope, why?
Go back and read an earlier reply to one of your posts.
Better yet, I'll copy it below for you.

>>
>> Is this your first post to USENET, or are you nym-shifting?

>
> First Post - Not nym-shifting. You picking up on the email address?
> well spotted. Still not nym-shifting, though.



There was I crediting you with noticing that we were both posting from the
same email server and you hadn't.

Never mind... Better late than never.


Anyway, you've already called me a liar in this thread, and I'm sure you
will do it again. But, that's your problem.


I'll tell you what the connection is.

Rarius is actually my network admin, and provides the email server.

DaSilvor



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Old 07-23-2008, 08:53 PM
John Doe
 
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"Shadow39" <no no.com> wrote:

> "John Doe" <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote in message


>> "Shadow39" <no no.com> wrote:


>>> Oh yea. John Doe is the LAST dude to be telling anyone to lose
>>> thier ego....

>>
>> Says a nym-shifting troll


> Posting history means **** for nothing when its a history full of
> putting people down, bashing, and general rudeness across the
> board. 95% of your posting history is insulting people and telling
> them they are wrong with no basis to back it up,


Sounds like the self-portrait of a nym-shifting troll. I might not
be politically correct, but at least I don't try to run and hide
from my posting history.



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